Politics

[drayer54]

What is the appeal with DeSantis? He perpetually has this look on his face as though he's a man who woke up this morning and realized around noon that he has arms.

All of this. He's done an amazing job in Florida. His covid management was best in class. He handles the media well and doesn't take the bait..
He has my vote in 24.

 

[drayer54]

Not a good look for the Dems. Guess they need to get their shit together like the Repubs.

https://www.cnn.com/2022/10/25/politics/pramila-jayapal-ukraine-letter-democratic-backlash/index.html

Ukraine doesn't have typical left and right lines. It's a weird issue. Cack and I are generally aligned on things not involving their gas company board members.

 

[drayer54]

Fetterman should have pulled a Hobbs and declined to debate as a chickenshit. This is brutal.

 

[Cackalacky2.0]

Ukraine doesn't have typical left and right lines. It's a weird issue. Cack and I are generally aligned on things not involving their gas company board members.

I personally think that was dumb af. That letter was a bad idea all around

 

[NDMatt91]

Fetterman should have pulled a Hobbs and declined to debate as a chickenshit. This is brutal.

Imagine being Conor Lamb right now. He got destroyed by someone who is practically brain-dead in the primary.

 

[drayer54]

Imagine being Conor Lamb right now. He got destroyed by someone who is practically brain-dead in the primary.

Haha yeah, forgot about that guy. He seemed like a better chance at winning for D’s.

 

[ab2cmiller]

Shortly before the debate tonight, Independent candidate Everett Stern dropped out (I'm sure his name will still be on the ballot) and threw his support to Fetterman. Was only polling at 3%. Based upon what you guys are saying about the debate performance, he may need it.

 

[ulukinatme]

Shortly before the debate tonight, Independent candidate Everett Stern dropped out (I'm sure his name will still be on the ballot) and threw his support to Fetterman. Was only polling at 3%. Based upon what you guys are saying about the debate performance, he may need it.

I only caught some of it, it wasn't pretty. I didn't see the beginning, but Twitter was saying his opening statement was "Hi, goodnight everybody"

 

[ulukinatme]

This is pretty low. I didn't appreciate this at first.

But I'm not gonna lie, I laughed when I read the text at the bottom, it broke me. I love me some Sloth, just take the Fetterman name off there and this would be excellent and not cringey.

 

[drayer54]

What is the appeal with DeSantis? He perpetually has this look on his face as though he's a man who woke up this morning and realized around noon that he has arms.

Florida seems to appreciate him. People aren’t fleeing the state under his watch.

 

[Cackalacky2.0]

Florida seems to appreciate him. People aren’t fleeing the state under his watch.

Well they will elect him Gov. and then watch him not do anything heading into 2024 but run for president. I guess thats ok? I expect Newsome to do the same at some point. He seems to be the DeSantis for the Dems.

 

[Cackalacky2.0]

This is pretty low. I didn't appreciate this at first.

But I'm not gonna lie, I laughed when I read the text at the bottom, it broke me. I love me some Sloth, just take the Fetterman name off there and this would be excellent and not cringey.

As a guy who has multiple people in my family gone through strokes, some of which left them not able to speak at all...but with all their brain functions intact, I really dont like this. I love Sloth too but fuck this is too much. lol

 

[Cackalacky2.0]

I only caught some of it, it wasn't pretty. I didn't see the beginning, but Twitter was saying his opening statement was "Hi, goodnight everybody"

If you are gonna vote with Schumer 105% of the time who cares?

 

[Irish#1]

Well they will elect him Gov. and then watch him not do anything heading into 2024 but run for president. I guess thats ok? I expect Newsome to do the same at some point. He seems to be the DeSantis for the Dems.

Well, it's like looking for a new job. you're not going to quit your current one until you've landed another one.

 

[Cackalacky2.0]

Well, it's like looking for a new job. you're not going to quit your current one until you've landed another one.

Well its like if you knew your employee was looking for another job while working for YOU would you want him working on your projects or affecting your profitability?

 

[Cackalacky2.0]

All of this. He's done an amazing job in Florida. His covid management was best in class. He handles the media well and doesn't take the bait..
He has my vote in 24.

I can never not look at him and think of Jimmy Fallon's French Stuart impression

 

[ulukinatme]

As a guy who has multiple people in my family gone through strokes, some of which left them not able to speak at all...but with all their brain functions intact, I really dont like this. I love Sloth too but fuck this is too much. lol

Totally agree, I thought it was classless and sad. I honestly hope Fetterman makes a full recovery. I hesitated posting it at all, but I thought it would have been funny on it's own if they just took Fetterman's connection off there completely and made it "Sloth for mayor" or something. I realize I posted it at 4am, but at the time the "Text 'Hey You Guys!'" bit had me rolling.

 

[ab2cmiller]

Pretty much everyone believes that DeSantis will definitely run for President. I'm not sure how much of a difference it would make if DeSantis coming out and said that he would definitely consider running for President.

 

[NDMatt91]

Well they will elect him Gov. and then watch him not do anything heading into 2024 but run for president. I guess thats ok? I expect Newsome to do the same at some point. He seems to be the DeSantis for the Dems.

It is what it is. We saw the same thing with Elizabeth Warren and Bernie Sanders in 2018. Everyone knew they were running for President when they were up for re-election. George W. Bush did the same thing in '98 when he was running for re-election in Texas. Everyone knew heading into that election that he'd announced his run for President the next calendar year.

I actually have more of a problem with the people who haven't even finished a full term announcing they are running for President. We saw this with Ted Cruz and Kamala Harris. Cruz won his race in 2012 and everyone knew he was just using that to elevate himself so he could run for President in 2016. Harris won her race in 2016 and everyone knew she was using that seat so she could run for President. Both announced their intentions to run for President before they had even served half of their 6 year senate terms.

 

[NDMatt91]

All of this. He's done an amazing job in Florida. His covid management was best in class. He handles the media well and doesn't take the bait..
He has my vote in 24.

Exactly. Over 5 million voters in 2016 and 2020 voted for at least 1 down-ballot Republican but refused to vote for Trump. These voters aren't Democrats - they're Republicans and Independents (who historically vote Republican) that absolutely hate Trump. They are never going to vote for him and he alienates them. The overwhelming majority of these 5 million people would vote for DeSantis if he is the nominee because he doesn't have the baggage, the mean tweets, and the conspiracy theories that Trump does.

Furthermore, I would say this to my friends on the left - if you believe that Donald Trump is the biggest threat to democracy and want him nowhere near the White House then you should prove it in the primary and unenroll and vote for whoever has the best chance of beating him in the GOP primary. Whether that is DeSantis, Rand Paul, Chris Sununu, or whoever.

We actually saw a little bit of this in 2016. In Virginia, for example, quite a few Democrats took Republican ballots to vote for Rubio in the primary because polling showed he had the best chance of beating Trump in the VA primary. These people had no intention of voting for Rubio in November if he became the nominee. They were just trying to stop Trump.

Another thing that I'm worried about is people crowding the field. As it stands right now, DeSantis, should he run, is the only candidate with a chance to beat Trump in a primary. Larry Hogan, the Governor of Maryland, will almost certainly run for President in 2024. When the first polls come out showing him well behind Trump and DeSantis, he should do the right thing and bow out of the race. Back in 2016, we saw Rubio and Kasich stay in the race longer than they should have. Get it so that it's a 1-on-1 between Trump and DeSantis. We can't afford any people spoiling the race.

 

[Jiggafini19Deux]

He's much smarter and far more articulate than Trump and has nowhere near the personal baggage. He's also a vastly superior debater. Basically, he doesn't alienate suburban voters who historically vote Republican who didn't vote for Trump in 2016 and 2020 but voted Republican down the ballot.

LOL

 

[Jiggafini19Deux]

Boomers: you can fuck with everyone else's Social Security and Medicare, but not theirs.

These generic polls really mean shit if you're living in a district that is shaped like a gerrymandered amoeba.

 

[NDMatt91]

LOL

I mean, can anyone seriously argue otherwise?

 

[Jiggafini19Deux]

I mean, can anyone seriously argue otherwise?

Seriously argue? No, but I'm sure plenty of people would.

I think DeSantis is a Grade A chooch. Trump could at least be entertaining.

 

[NDMatt91]

Seriously argue? No, but I'm sure plenty of people would.

I think DeSantis is a Grade A chooch. Trump could at least be entertaining.

Is this because DeSantis is more electable than Trump?

 

[NorthDakota]

What is the appeal with DeSantis? He perpetually has this look on his face as though he's a man who woke up this morning and realized around noon that he has arms.

Leads a big state. Smart guy, even his opponents admit that. College athlete. Ex military. Picks fights on easy wins. Covid policy was a huge W for him. Young guy.

Big thing too that he's popular in Florida. Implies competent as an executive. Just my $.02

 

[Jiggafini19Deux]

Is this because DeSantis is more electable than Trump?

I think he's a Chooch because he's a Chooch.

Lots of people are more electable than others. Doesn't make them any less Chooch than they are.

 

[Irish#1]

Totally agree, I thought it was classless and sad. I honestly hope Fetterman makes a full recovery. I hesitated posting it at all, but I thought it would have been funny on it's own if they just took Fetterman's connection off there completely and made it "Sloth for mayor" or something. I realize I posted it at 4am, but at the time the "Text 'Hey You Guys!'" bit had me rolling.

No one should be on the internet at 4:00AM. lol

 

[Irish#1]

It is what it is. We saw the same thing with Elizabeth Warren and Bernie Sanders in 2018. Everyone knew they were running for President when they were up for re-election. George W. Bush did the same thing in '98 when he was running for re-election in Texas. Everyone knew heading into that election that he'd announced his run for President the next calendar year.

I actually have more of a problem with the people who haven't even finished a full term announcing they are running for President. We saw this with Ted Cruz and Kamala Harris. Cruz won his race in 2012 and everyone knew he was just using that to elevate himself so he could run for President in 2016. Harris won her race in 2016 and everyone knew she was using that seat so she could run for President. Both announced their intentions to run for President before they had even served half of their 6 year senate terms.

Yep, been happening for a long long time and will continue.

 

[Irish#1]

Boomers: you can fuck with everyone else's Social Security and Medicare, but not theirs.

These generic polls really mean shit if you're living in a district that is shaped like a gerrymandered amoeba.

Damn straight. I'm not getting enough as it is and if you try, I'll see you at the Irsay Y.