The Official Irishenvy Fire Tommy Rees Thread

[Irish4life]

The problem is that — unless they land a transfer QB or Angeli comes out of nowhere to be the real deal — there are no short term answers on offense. At least not in this scheme. Maybe you could run a different scheme with Buchner and be successful.

Then even if you get a good QB, you have to deal with the fact that you have maybe one total functional WR on offense in Merriweather. So unless you are adding someone in the transfer portal (spoiler alert: you aren’t) where is the upside for the offense next year?

Why do you think we're not adding a portal WR? That seems like a given.

 

[Irish4life]

Also, if it hasn't been posted here, Prister and the II podcast crew seem to all agree that Rees won't be the OC in 2023.

 

[Dale]

The problem is that — unless they land a transfer QB or Angeli comes out of nowhere to be the real deal — there are no short term answers on offense. At least not in this scheme. Maybe you could run a different scheme with Buchner and be successful.

Then even if you get a good QB, you have to deal with the fact that you have maybe one total functional WR on offense in Merriweather. So unless you are adding someone in the transfer portal (spoiler alert: you aren’t) where is the upside for the offense next year?

A Coan level transfer QB and you get a 2021 level offense, at minimum. Adjust expectations up or down from there.

To say there are no answers “in this scheme” when we saw TDs hit the turf 10 yards away from the WR, I don’t understand.

 

[bkess8]

Here are some facts…
-Urban Meyer is not coming to coach at ND.
- MF will get a second season

With that being said, I hope TR doesn’t get a second season. I don’t think you can fire MF when you hired the OC before announcing the HC hire (this falls on Jack).

There are so many OCs out there that do more with less when considering talent. Also there are OCs that out scheme their opponents the easy way, something TR hasn’t figured out how to do.

ND as a program hasn’t developed a QB in so long and who is the last NFL QB we have had that actually performed in the league. Development falls on our previous coach and his OC/QB coach who is still on the new staff.

Additionally, what do you expect MF to say at a press conference after a major loss to a underperforming rival? He’s not going to come out and say what we all think of TR or what we think he thinks of TR.

Sorry for the rant but really tired of the hate on MF, I know he is a first year coach and that is extremely tough especially at ND but he is the right guy for the job when you consider todays youth IMO. He will get the kinks worked out and I believe if JS gives him the rights to make changes as needed we will be alright next season.

 

[IrishLax]

Why do you think we're not adding a portal WR? That seems like a given.

Because there are rarely high quality grad transfers at WR. Skowronek was a bit of a unicorn.

For undergrad transfers, need to have credits and need to be willing to pay $$ like USC allegedly did for Addison. IMO, ND is never going to load up in the transfer pool like some other schools. But they should certainly try to. I just don’t think they’ll be successful.

 

[Irish4life]

Because there are rarely high quality grad transfers at WR. Skowronek was a bit of a unicorn.

For undergrad transfers, need to have credits and need to be willing to pay $$ like USC allegedly did for Addison. IMO, ND is never going to load up in the transfer pool like some other schools. But they should certainly try to. I just don’t think they’ll be successful.

I don't know if I agree, there were several pretty high quality grad transfer WRs in the portal this past offseason....Jake Bobo, Matt Landers, Charlie Jones all come to mind. And it has been confirmed multiple times that ND was tampering with Josh Downs and almost got him to transfer in. So while I doubt we're going to be paying top dollar like USC was alleged to have done last offseason anytime soon....I don't think ND is exactly being naïve here. Also, entirely my own opinion, but I 100% believe that the NIL deal Zay Flowers turned down this offseason was from ND.

 

[Spurt Reynolds]

Why is Tommy Reese NOT fired yet? I came on here every hour yesterday hoping for the news.

Sad we hold on to mediocrity.

Sad how other coaches at other schools have better success faster.

Notre Dame stadium is a funeral home and has been basically since 1996. I have high school football teams in my area that have louder crowds.

Until Notre Dame lowers standards on their athlete's (especially football) we are always going to be a mediocre football team who beats the teams we should (unless you're name is Marcus Freeman) and get blown out by top 5 teams.

It's just the way it is. Notre Dame football hasn't been relevant since 1988

 

[Spurt Reynolds]

Oh....and for all you die-hards who think Notre Dame will compete for a National Championship some day?? Hahahahahahaa you're delusional

 

[indianamouse]

The problem is that — unless they land a transfer QB or Angeli comes out of nowhere to be the real deal — there are no short term answers on offense. At least not in this scheme. Maybe you could run a different scheme with Buchner and be successful.

Then even if you get a good QB, you have to deal with the fact that you have maybe one total functional WR on offense in Merriweather. So unless you are adding someone in the transfer portal (spoiler alert: you aren’t) where is the upside for the offense next year?

We are bringing in a plethora of offensive talent for one.

 

[irishff1014]

The problem is that — unless they land a transfer QB or Angeli comes out of nowhere to be the real deal — there are no short term answers on offense. At least not in this scheme. Maybe you could run a different scheme with Buchner and be successful.

Then even if you get a good QB, you have to deal with the fact that you have maybe one total functional WR on offense in Merriweather. So unless you are adding someone in the transfer portal (spoiler alert: you aren’t) where is the upside for the offense next year?

I still think styles can be a very good WR. Not sure if he had an injury that really wasn’t talked about that slowed him down or if this is a result S&C program.

I thought S&C program was doing a good job over all. But then you look at our speed guy putting on some weight they lose that speed. Might be something to keep an eye on.

 

[NDFAN2008]

The more film I see from this past weekend I'm not blaming Rees at all, the only play that was somewhat his fault was the 4th and 2 handoff to Thomas which Freeman said Rees wanted to call timeout. Here is what I noticed and this all falls on the players lack of execution.
1. Patterson false start to start the first play.
2. Styles drop ball on the 3rd and 2
3. Styles dropped another ball but got held this should have been a pass interference.
4. Lenzy runs a beautiful route and is wide open Pyne throws the ball way over his head not even close. That was a chip shot.
5. Tobias is wide open and Pyne overthrows him again.
6. The 2nd or last play of game the two WR's on the bottom left didn't even realize the ball was snapped and stood there for a good 2-3 seconds before running their route. Lenzy was one of them.

 

[Spurt Reynolds]

The more film I see from this past weekend I'm not blaming Rees at all, the only play that was somewhat his fault was the 4th and 2 handoff to Thomas which Freeman said Rees wanted to call timeout. Here is what I noticed and this all falls on the players lack of execution.
1. Patterson false start to start the first play.
2. Styles drop ball on the 3rd and 2
3. Styles dropped another ball but got held this should have been a pass interference.
4. Lenzy runs a beautiful route and is wide open Pyne throws the ball way over his head not even close. That was a chip shot.
5. Tobias is wide open and Pyne overthrows him again.
6. The 2nd or last play of game the two WR's on the bottom left didn't even realize the ball was snapped and stood there for a good 2-3 seconds before running their route. Lenzy was one of them.

Lmfao!!! Ok....but what about 99% of the game you DIDN'T mention?

I bet you think Biden is doing a great job too huh?

 

[NDRock]

The more film I see from this past weekend I'm not blaming Rees at all, the only play that was somewhat his fault was the 4th and 2 handoff to Thomas which Freeman said Rees wanted to call timeout. Here is what I noticed and this all falls on the players lack of execution.
1. Patterson false start to start the first play.
2. Styles drop ball on the 3rd and 2
3. Styles dropped another ball but got held this should have been a pass interference.
4. Lenzy runs a beautiful route and is wide open Pyne throws the ball way over his head not even close. That was a chip shot.
5. Tobias is wide open and Pyne overthrows him again.
6. The 2nd or last play of game the two WR's on the bottom left didn't even realize the ball was snapped and stood there for a good 2-3 seconds before running their route. Lenzy was one of them.

You can always point to a few plays here and there. This is what Ty did. We were always a few plays from winning the game. Like it or not it’s the OC’s job to get the offense to perform. It’s why the school pays him a couple million dollars.

 

[anarin]

Why is Tommy Reese NOT fired yet? I came on here every hour yesterday hoping for the news.

Who is going to run the offense if they fired him today?

 

[NDRock]

Who is going to run the offense if they fired him today?

Greg Hudson?

 

[ndfanatic78]

It's just the way it is. Notre Dame football hasn't been relevant since 1988

But yet played in 2 playoffs and 1 national championship. Everyone knows what "Bush Push" is across the country, but ND hasn't been relevant since 88', ok bud. Maybe you should check the definition of relevant because you obviously don't know what it means.

 

[ndfanatic78]

Lmfao!!! Ok....but what about 99% of the game you DIDN'T mention?

I bet you think Biden is doing a great job too huh?

Since you had to bring up politics. I think ND, Biden, and Trump have all done about the same. They all suck. Hopefully ND can turn it around, the other 2 the ship has sailed and they will always suck.

 

[Jiggafini19Deux]

Ignore button is getting some serious work this week. Like village bicycle type of work.

I can't wait until some of these assistant coaches start leaving for other jobs in a few months and all the knob goblins out here are pissing their pants. Rees is going to be one of them, and that's speculation on my part, but there are going to be others. On both sides of the ball, too.

The next whipping boy will reveal himself soon enough once TR is gone.

 

[notredomer23]

Because there are rarely high quality grad transfers at WR. Skowronek was a bit of a unicorn.

For undergrad transfers, need to have credits and need to be willing to pay $$ like USC allegedly did for Addison. IMO, ND is never going to load up in the transfer pool like some other schools. But they should certainly try to. I just don’t think they’ll be successful.

Are we sure ND's boosters won't pay? I am not so sure. With the rumors we've heard about Josh Downs, it sounds like he was in until he wasn't because of the university's transfer guidelines. Wise decision in hindsight given how Drake Maye is killing it, but still.

 

[NDRock]

Ignore button is getting some serious work this week. Like village bicycle type of work.

I can't wait until some of these assistant coaches start leaving for other jobs in a few months and all the knob goblins out here are pissing their pants. Rees is going to be one of them, and that's speculation on my part, but there are going to be others. On both sides of the ball, too.

The next whipping boy will reveal himself soon enough once TR is gone.

Why do you think Rees will leave? You think Freeman will go a different direction?

 

[Spurt Reynolds]

Who is going to run the offense if they fired him toda

Who is going to run the offense if they fired him today?

A.O.T.T.R (Anyone Other Than Tommy Reese!) 👍

Can't be any worse. 🤣

 

[Spurt Reynolds]

Since you had to bring up politics. I think ND, Biden, and Trump have all done about the same. They all suck. Hopefully ND can turn it around, the other 2 the ship has sailed and they will always suck.

Ugh. Apologies. I don't usually do that. But I agree...Trump sucked too. It just sucks when ND sucks and so does our government. 🙄

 

[ThePiombino]

Bringing up Urban every time this program takes a downturn is pathetic. I never thought any fan base could be worse than the Vols with Gruden but here we are.

Eh, I think this POV is harsh. Do I think he would/should come here? No. But this is a ND message board and he's part of ND lure. I don't think it's pathetic, just unlikely.

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[Irishdrunk]

Salaries:
Brian Hartline: $950K
Tommy Rees: $2.75MM

 

[Jiggafini19Deux]

Why do you think Rees will leave? You think Freeman will go a different direction?

Because he's probably going to have NFL opportunities regardless of what's being spewed on the internet about him from ND fans. Jack and Marcus won't fire him. He'll leave on his own accord.

 

[NDMatt91]

Salaries:
Brian Hartline: $950K
Tommy Rees: $2.75MM

Stealing money. But hey, if the AD of my alma mater bent over backwards and want to overpay me, possibly because I went to school there, then I'd take the money, too.

 

[Irishdrunk]

Because he's probably going to have NFL opportunities regardless of what's being spewed on the internet about him from ND fans. Jack and Marcus won't fire him. He'll leave on his own accord.

I don't care how he friggin leaves. Call it a Kabuki Theater at the Gug. I don't care but Rees has cost us probably 2 losses.

Also, how can you judge Freeman as a HC if he keeps this clown?

 

[NDdomer2]

another user name based off an actor, wonder who it is

 

[BleedBlueGold]

another user name based off an actor, wonder who it is

Dibs on his avatar once he's banned.

 

[arahop]

Not 2003 anymore lmfao. Just cuz they won't hire a scumbag like Urban or an evil human being like one of the Briles assistants doesn't mean the BOT and admin are getting in the way of winning at ND. SMH.

Not saying they should hire Urban. If you don't think the BOT and the Administration is what is keeping ND from the elusive 12th Title... I don't have anything further to add. No person with any knowledge of the Football program would argue this. If they do, they're delusional