Russia Invades Ukraine

[Irish#1]

Wait someone actually watches snl?

Been on for 47 years, so someone is.

 

[Irish#1]

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SMH

 

[Irish#1]

Trump doing Putins work at home along with Michael Flynn.

You're assuming a peaceful ending means Ukraine capitulating to Russia.

 

[Cackalacky2.0]

Gentle reminder that Putin didn’t pull this shit until after Biden wandered aimlessly out of Afghanistan and left a trail of taxpayer funded weapons.

Well Trump was his boy and got everything he wanted from Trump, from undermining NATO to pulling out of the nuclear treaties../

 

[Cackalacky2.0]

You're assuming a peaceful ending means Ukraine capitulating to Russia.

ME? That was Trump's quote not mine. Just posting what HE said within context of also what HE has said and DONE in the past. Everything he did was in Russia's favor including undrmining NATO, praising Putin, extorting Zelenski for political dirt in exchange for defense weapons and publically promoting the corrupt politician preceding Zelensky. lmao. Yall are too much. ANd yes that does mean Ukraine capitulating to Russia because Ukraine should not ever stop until they have their 2014 boundaries back. Anything less is a capitulation. The only people wanting that at this point are Putin sympathizers and pro-appeasement Putin fluffers.

 

[ab2cmiller]

Gentle reminder that Putin didn’t pull this shit until after Biden wandered aimlessly out of Afghanistan and left a trail of taxpayer funded weapons.

Well Trump was his boy and got everything he wanted from Trump, from undermining NATO to pulling out of the nuclear treaties../

Some truth to both of these thoughts. Putin didn't feel a need to do anything at the time because of Trumps stance with NATO. But Putin was definitely emboldened by the fact that Biden was coming off weak and timid, in part because of his actions concerning Afghanistan.

 

[drayer54]

Some truth to both of these thoughts. Putin didn't feel a need to do anything at the time because of Trumps stance with NATO. But Putin was definitely emboldened by the fact that Biden was coming off weak and timid, in part because of his actions concerning Afghanistan.

Trump spoke the truth to NATO. He was the one who continuously told the Germans that they were a shitty member and not carrying their weight. German energy liability with Russia, which also was warned about by Trump and mocked, is still a NATO problem and hurting Ukraine. NATO is not perfect, and pretending it doesn't have problems is a mistake.

 

[ab2cmiller]

Trump spoke the truth to NATO. He was the one who continuously told the Germans that they were a shitty member and not carrying their weight. German energy liability with Russia, which also was warned about by Trump and mocked, is still a NATO problem and hurting Ukraine. NATO is not perfect, and pretending it doesn't have problems is a mistake.

He did speak the truth about the US carrying other prominent members of NATO. He also spoke of potentially leaving NATO. Was that posturing just to try to get other countries to ante up? Did he really want to leave NATO? I can't say with any level of certainty. Regardless, Putin was content waiting to see what happened, because there was a total lack of unity.

 

[Cackalacky2.0]

He did speak the truth about the US carrying other prominent members of NATO. He also spoke of potentially leaving NATO. Was that posturing just to try to get other countries to ante up? Did he really want to leave NATO? I can't say with any level of certainty. Regardless, Putin was content waiting to see what happened, because there was a total lack of unity.

Trump Discussed Pulling U.S. From NATO, Aides Say Amid New Concerns Over Russia (Published 2019)

The president’s repeatedly stated desire in private to withdraw from the alliance has raised concerns among officials who fear he may revisit the threat.

www.nytimes.com

Posturing? Maybe. Multiple times though? Concerning.

Also a general list of all things Trump did that gave air to Putin:

Trump has repeatedly praised Putin​

While he was a private citizen, during his 2016 campaign and throughout his presidency, Trump has showered Putin with praise. He said Putin was “so nice,” he called Putin a “strong leader” and said Putin has done “a really great job outsmarting our country.” Trump also claimed he’d “get along very well” with Putin. Few, if any, Western leaders have echoed these comments.

Trump hired Manafort to run his campaign​

Trump raised eyebrows in spring 2016 when he hired GOP operative Paul Manafort to run his presidential campaign. Manafort spent a decade working for pro-Russian politicians and parties in Ukraine and cultivated close relationships with Putin-friendly oligarchs. Manafort was sentenced in 2019 to 7.5 years prison for, among other things, evading taxes on the $60 million he had made in Ukraine. (He was released to house arrest in May 2020 amid coronavirus concerns.)

Trump suggested Russia can keep Crimea​

Trump said Putin did “an amazing job of taking the mantle” when Russia annexed Crimea in 2014. During the 2016 presidential campaign, Trump broke with US policy and suggested he was OK if Russia kept the Ukrainian territory. He repeated a Kremlin talking point, saying, “The people of Crimea, from what I’ve heard, would rather be with Russia than where they were.”

Trump aides softened GOP platform on Ukraine​

Ahead of the 2016 Republican National Convention, Trump campaign aides blocked language from the party platform that called for the US government to send lethal weapons to Ukraine for its war against Russian proxies. Mueller investigated this for potential collusion but determined the change was not made “at the behest” of Russia. (The Trump administration ultimately gave lethal arms and anti-tank weapons to the Ukrainian military.)

Trump made light of Russian hacking​

Throughout the 2016 campaign, Trump cast doubt on the US government assessment that Russia hacked the Democratic National Committee and Democratic nominee Hillary Clinton’s campaign chairman. At a news conference in July 2016, he even asked Russia to hack more, saying, “Russia, if you’re listening, I hope you’re able to find the 30,000 emails that are missing,”

Trump capitalized on Russian meddling to win​

Instead of condemning Russia for hacking and leaking Democratic emails, Trump eagerly capitalized on the Kremlin’s meddling, and used the emails to attack Clinton on a near-daily basis in the final stretch of the campaign. The Mueller report said Trump’s campaign “expected it would benefit electorally from information stolen and released through Russian efforts” and that top officials believed they had inside information about WikiLeaks, so they planned a strategy around the expected release of hacked emails.

Trump denied that Russia interfered in 2016​

The Office of the Director of National Intelligence, the FBI, the CIA, the National Security Agency, the Department of Homeland Security, the Justice Department and the Senate Intelligence Committee all confirmed that Russia interfered in the 2016 election to help Trump. But Trump has repeatedly rejected this view, and publicly sided with Putin at the Helsinki summit in 2018, saying he accepted Putin’s denials.

Trump transition undermined Russian sanctions​

After the 2016 election, the Trump transition team asked Russia not to retaliate too strongly against new US sanctions imposed by then-President Barack Obama. The sanctions were intended to punish Russia for interfering in the election, but then-Trump aide Michael Flynn asked the Russian ambassador not to escalate the situation so they could have a good relationship once Trump took over.

Trump was open to lifting Russian sanctions​

Days before his inauguration, Trump told The Wall Street Journal that he was open to lifting sanctions on Russia. He said: “If you get along and if Russia is really helping us, why would anybody have sanctions if somebody’s doing some really great things?” Putin has tried for years to persuade the US and European countries to end crippling sanctions on Russia’s economy.

Trump refused to say Putin is a killer​

Bucking other US leaders, Trump has dismissed credible allegations that Putin uses violence against his opponents. Trump said in 2015, “I think it would be despicable if that took place, but I haven’t seen any evidence that he killed anybody, in terms of reporters.” Asked again in February 2017, Trump deflected, saying, “There are a lot of killers. Do you think our country is so innocent?”

Trump mulled returning spy bases to Russia​

The Washington Post reported in May 2017 that the Trump administration considered returning two diplomatic compounds to Russia. The Obama administration expelled Russian diplomats and seized the compounds in New York and Maryland after the 2016 election, claiming they were used for “intelligence” purposes. The compounds were never returned to Russia.

President Trump with Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov in the Oval Office
from twitter/Russian Foreign Minister

Trump gave Russia classified intelligence​

In a shocking move during the early months of his presidency, Trump shared highly classified intelligence with two senior Russian officials during an Oval Office meeting in May 2017. The intelligence, which was about ISIS, was sensitive enough that it could have exposed a vulnerable source. The unplanned disclosure by Trump rattled even many of his Republican allies.

Trump criticized and alienated NATO allies​

Trump has repeatedly attacked NATO, aligning himself with Putin, who wants to weaken the alliance. Trump said NATO was “obsolete,” rattling European leaders. At his first NATO summit in May 2017, Trump scolded other countries for not spending enough on defense and declined to commit to NATO’s mutual defense pledge. (Trump later said he supported the mutual defense provision.) He has also said he wanted to withdraw from NATO, according to The New York Times, though it hasn’t happened.

Trump was reluctant to sign Russian sanctions​

Lawmakers passed a bipartisan bill in July 2017 imposing new sanctions against Russia, even though Trump administration officials reportedly tried to water down the language. Trump reluctantly signed the bill, but claimed the new law contained “clearly unconstitutional provisions.” Trump had little choice in the matter because the bill had passed with veto-proof majorities: 419-3 in the House and 98-2 in the Senate. (The Treasury Department followed up with several rounds of hard-hitting sanctions.)

Trump proposed a cyber unit with Russia​

After the July 2017 meeting of G20 leaders, Trump said he had spoken with Putin about “forming an impenetrable Cyber Security unit” to combat “election hacking.” Trump quickly backtracked after lawmakers from both parties said it would be ridiculous to work with Russia on cybersecurity because Russia was responsible for egregious hacks against American targets, including during the 2016 election.

Trump thanked Putin for expelling US diplomats​

Trump thanked Putin for expelling hundreds of US diplomats from Russia in August 2017, saying, “I want to thank him because we’re trying to cut down our payroll.” Putin kicked out the officials to retaliate against US sanctions. Trump’s comments conflicted with the State Department, which said the mass expulsion was “uncalled for.” (Trump later said he was being sarcastic.)

Trump eased sanctions on Deripaska​

The Treasury Department in 2018 sanctioned Russian oligarch and Putin ally Oleg Deripaska, along with three companies linked to him, over his support for Russian interference in the 2016 election. But by January 2019, the Trump administration lifted some of these sanctions. In a bipartisan rebuke, 11 Senate Republicans supported a Democratic resolution calling for the sanctions to remain.

Trump congratulated Putin on his sham election​

Ignoring the advice of several top national security aides, Trump congratulated Putin on his March 2018 reelection victory. Putin got 77% of the vote, but Western observers declared that the election “lacked genuine competition” and took place in an “overly controlled legal and political environment.” Trump’s critics said he had given the election legitimacy it did not deserve.

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[Cackalacky2.0]

Trump balked at sanctions for Skripal poisoning​

Trump privately complained about US sanctions intended to punish Russia after one of its ex-spies was poisoned in the United Kingdom, according to Trump’s former national security adviser John Bolton. The US and UK blamed Russia for trying to assassinate the defector, Sergei Skripal. After the sanctions were announced in August 2018, Trump tried to rescind them and said the US was “being too tough on Putin,” according to Bolton’s memoir.

Trump nixed US statement about Russian war​

In summer 2018, Trump blocked his administration from releasing a statement on the 10th anniversary of the Russia-Georgia war, according to Bolton’s memoir. Bolton said European leaders noticed Trump’s silence and “became even more concerned about American resolve.” Russia invaded its neighbor Georgia during the five-day war in 2008, and still occupies two breakaway territories.

Trump praised pro-Russian leaders in Europe​

On several occasions, Trump has praised controversial far-right European leaders who have been shunned by most US officials because of their close ties to Putin. Trump met at the White House with Hungarian Prime Minister Viktor Orban, a top Kremlin ally. He praised the campaign of French politician Marine Le Pen, whose party previously got millions from a Russian bank.

Trump didn’t publicly condemn Russian attack​

According to congressional testimony, Trump declined to publicly condemn a Russian attack against Ukrainian military vessels in November 2018, even though the State Department prepared a statement for him. Secretary of State Mike Pompeo criticized Russia’s “dangerous escalation.” The White House didn’t say anything, but Trump canceled a meeting with Putin.

Trump defended Soviet invasion of Afghanistan​

During a January 2019 Cabinet meeting, Trump defended the Soviet Union’s invasion of Afghanistan. He said the Soviet Union “was right” to invade in 1979 because “terrorists were going into Russia.” The comments puzzled many observers, who noted that the Soviets had invaded to bolster a communist government and the US had backed Afghan militants who fought the Soviets.

Trump asked allies to let Russia back in the G7​

Breaking with American allies, Trump repeatedly called for Russia to be invited back into the Group of Seven. Russia was suspended from the working group of leading industrial nations in 2014 after Putin annexed Crimea. At the August 2019 G7 summit in France, Trump pressed the other leaders to include Russia at the 2020 gathering. They balked at the request, which would have handed a huge victory to Putin without any concessions.

Trump’s Syria withdrawal gave Putin a boost​

Trump announced in October 2019 that US troops were withdrawing from northern Syria. The abrupt move cleared the way for Turkey to conquer territories previously controlled by the US and allied Kurdish militias. It also gave Russia a golden opportunity to expand its influence and swiftly take over abandoned US outposts and checkpoints. Trump’s move was a boon for Putin.

Trump repeated Kremlin talking points on ISIS​

After announcing the Syria withdrawal, Trump repeated Kremlin talking points about ISIS. He said, “Russia hates ISIS as much as the United States does” and that they are equal partners in the fight. But Trump’s comments don’t reflect the reality on the ground: Since intervening in Syria in 2015, the Russian military has focused its airstrikes on anti-government rebels, not ISIS.

Trump spread Russian myths about Ukraine​

During his impeachment proceedings in 2019 and early 2020, Trump said many false things about Ukraine that align with Russian disinformation about the country. This includes claims of uncontrollable corruption, improper ties between Ukrainian officials and the Obama administration, and allegations that Ukraine meddled in US elections. This helps Putin’s goal of destabilizing US-Ukraine relations.

Trump temporarily froze US aid for Ukraine​

As the impeachment inquiry revealed, Trump personally froze $391 million in US military and security assistance for Ukraine in mid-2019. US diplomats said Ukraine desperately needed the help for its war against Russian proxies. Previously, the Trump administration had slow-walked sales of anti-tank missiles to Ukraine because of concerns it would upset Russia, according to a State Department official.

Trump smeared US ambassador to Ukraine​

For more than a year, Trump privately and publicly attacked Marie Yovanovitch, who was the US ambassador to Ukraine until he recalled her in spring 2019. One of Russia’s goals is to weaken the US-Ukraine alliance – Trump played into that by smearing Yovanovitch and undermining her diplomatic work in Ukraine. Her ouster was a major part of Trump’s impeachment.

Trump considered visiting Putin on Russian soil​

Trump said in November 2019 that he was thinking about visiting Russia, at Putin’s invitation, to attend a 2020 military parade in Moscow. The US government has repeatedly called out Russia’s aggressive moves around the world, so a visit from a sitting US president would be highly unusual. Obama made the last visit in 2013, when relations were warmer, before Russia invaded Ukraine. After months of speculation, Trump declined the invitation, as the Covid-19 pandemic wreaked havoc around the world.

Trump gave Putin a PR victory on Covid-19​

As the coronavirus pandemic exploded in spring 2020, the US accepted a large delivery of medical supplies from Russia, which were flown into New York City. Trump thanked Putin for the “very nice offer,” even while diplomats sparred over whether the equipment had been donated or purchased. Regardless, experts said the stunt was a propaganda bonanza for the Kremlin.

Trump invited Russia to 2020 G7 summit​

Trump announced in May 2020 that he was postponing the US-based G7 summit because of the coronavirus and that he also wanted to extend invitations to Russia and three other countries to participate. Other G7 leaders swiftly rejected Trump’s idea to invite Putin, because Russia still hasn’t withdrawn from Crimea and has continued its aggressive actions around the world.

Trump directed CIA to share intel with Russia​

Trump directed the Central Intelligence Agency to share more counterterrorism intelligence with Russia, according to the national security website Just Security, which cited two former CIA officials who had served under Trump. The officials said the US received nothing in return, which is consistent with past intelligence-sharing with Russia.

Trump ignored warnings of Russian bounties​

The President was repeatedly told during in-person briefings and in written intelligence reports in 2019 and 2020 that the US government believed Russia paid bounties to Afghan militants to kill Americans, according to CNN and other outlets. Despite being given this information, Trump did not publicly condemn Russia or take any retaliatory actions. Trump has denied receiving any briefings on the topic.

Trump called Russian bounty story a ‘hoax’​

Rejecting the findings from US intelligence agencies, Trump said allegations that Russia paid Taliban militants to kill US troops were “another hoax” that was “made up by fake news.” By saying he doesn’t believe the allegations against Russia, Trump publicly sided with the Kremlin, which denies paying any bounties.

Trump never raised Russian bounties with Putin​

After Trump was briefed on the Russian bounties, and after the story was revealed by the press, he had several phone calls with Putin. But Trump never raised the topic of bounties with Putin during these calls, never told Putin to stop and never threatened any retaliation. “That’s an issue that many people said was fake news. … I have never discussed it with him,” Trump said in a July 2020 interview with Axios.

Trump ordered US troops out of Germany​

In June 2020, Trump approved plans to significantly reduce the number of US troops in Germany. The plan to remove about one-third of the force drew serious concerns from the Pentagon because it could compromise Europe-based defenses against Russia. In a letter to Trump, nearly two dozen Republican lawmakers said his decision would “strengthen the position of Russia to our detriment.”

 

[Cackalacky2.0]

Any normal US POTUS would NOT have done ANY of these things to Russia's benefit. These things undermined our commitment to our global allies and gives air to Putin.

 

[Cackalacky2.0]

Trump to pull out of Open Skies Treaty, administration says

President Trump plans on pulling the United States out of the Open Skies Treaty, an agreement among more than 30 countries that allows for those involved to fly in each other’s air spaces, Secretary of State Mike Pompeo confirmed Thursday.

www.foxnews.com

Pulling out of these global treaties undermines our global commitments to allies and further emboldens our enemies, namely Russia.

 

[drayer54]

I saw Russian bounties and knew I was in Maddow land. Who waived the sanctions on Nord Stream?

 

[Cackalacky2.0]

I saw Russian bounties and knew I was in Maddow land. Who waived the sanctions on Nord Stream?

I guess our intelligence agencies were just making that up and that alone negates all the other things he did which Putin benefitted. Cool.

 

[Irish#1]

He did speak the truth about the US carrying other prominent members of NATO. He also spoke of potentially leaving NATO. Was that posturing just to try to get other countries to ante up? Did he really want to leave NATO? I can't say with any level of certainty. Regardless, Putin was content waiting to see what happened, because there was a total lack of unity.

I think he was posturing when it came to pulling out of NATO. Way to big of a decision and risk politically to really pull out. He wouldn't have more than one or two senators or reps he would be able to count on going forward if he had pulled a stunt like that. He just wanted everyone to carry their fair share.

 

[Irish#1]

Any normal US POTUS would NOT have done ANY of these things to Russia's benefit. These things undermined our commitment to our global allies and gives air to Putin.

Keep your friends close and your enemies closer.

 

[ulukinatme]

Any normal US POTUS would NOT have done ANY of these things to Russia's benefit. These things undermined our commitment to our global allies and gives air to Putin.

A lot of those are a stretch at best. There's three items on that list related to the Russian bounties alone. That entire story was found to be a sham and people bought into the rumors, it was proven bogus after Trump was out of office once the propaganda had already done it's damage. "Trump gave Putin a PR victory over COVID-19." Russia sent medical supplies that Trump apparently thanked him for, while people sparred over whether they were purchased or donated. Who the fuck cares if they were purchased or donated? If they helped save lives then we absolutely needed them and didn't have them either way. Like I said, bit of a stretch.

There's also a lot of "what ifs" in that list too. "Trump considered visiting Putin on Russian soil." Okay? He didn't, so why does it matter? Obama visited Putin in Russia, the shame! Trump mulled this and considered that. If a Trump frog had wings...

There's a lot of Ukraine talking points in there too. I don't want to hear about Ukraine.

 

[drayer54]

There's a lot of Ukraine talking points in there too. I don't want to hear about Ukraine.

None of Trump's kids were knowledgeable enough about energy or Ukraine to be on the board of a major gas company there. Take that, Trumpers!

 

[bobbyok1]

Kiev being hit in a significant fashion . . . The idea that Ukraine fought off a full on Russian assault in Kiev in the early period of this conflict was always a joke. Key infrastructure is NOW being hit. They could have done this earlier, but held off. The war is just now ramping up.

Sadly people in and around Kiev have been led by the collective West to believe Kiev was untouchable and safe. And now many lives will be lost unnecessarily.

Putin has always taken an intentional approach so that he would not easily be able to have fingers pointed at him of wrong doing. Regardless of how people view his actions, he has his own set of views on what is appropriate, and sticks to his methodical approaches. I am sure he is also pragmatic as to not give the collective West a reason to go to war with Russia. As a norm he didn't strike Ukrainian key infrastructure until now on purpose. He is acting very methodically and sees this as the right timing and circumstances to hit Kiev/infrastructure.

This was in response to the goading Kersh Straight bridge attack in Crimea. And Putin was clear on what he would do IF Russia areas were hit, he would respond by hitting key areas in Ukraine in response.

 

[calvegas04]

Russia is unable to stop Ukraine from gaining back it's territories in the east, so they are resorting to bombing civilian structures. About half of their missiles are making it to their targets.
This is the only way russia will touch Kyiv as they no longer have the forces to make any kind of push.

 

[Cackalacky2.0]

A lot of those are a stretch at best. There's three items on that list related to the Russian bounties alone. That entire story was found to be a sham and people bought into the rumors, it was proven bogus after Trump was out of office once the propaganda had already done it's damage. "Trump gave Putin a PR victory over COVID-19." Russia sent medical supplies that Trump apparently thanked him for, while people sparred over whether they were purchased or donated. Who the fuck cares if they were purchased or donated? If they helped save lives then we absolutely needed them and didn't have them either way. Like I said, bit of a stretch.

There's also a lot of "what ifs" in that list too. "Trump considered visiting Putin on Russian soil." Okay? He didn't, so why does it matter? Obama visited Putin in Russia, the shame! Trump mulled this and considered that. If a Trump frog had wings...

There's a lot of Ukraine talking points in there too. I don't want to hear about Ukraine.

the mental gymnastics you guys go through to defend trump and his deep deep love of Putin is amazing.

 

[ulukinatme]

the mental gymnastics you guys go through to defend trump and his deep deep love of Putin is amazing.

Am I wrong? I admit that there are questionable actions in the list, but can you admit that the list is at least "Trumped" up? That's all I'm saying.

 

[Sea Turtle]

the mental gymnastics you guys go through to defend trump and his deep deep love of Putin is amazing.

Actually, we are done with Trump. He had his chance. It's you who can't stop talking about him. Posting anything he does or says. He's been gone for almost two years now.

He broke you, Cack. You're in a lot of company though. He broke a lot of people.

 

[calvegas04]

Russian convoy being cooked

 

[Cackalacky2.0]

Actually, we are done with Trump. He had his chance. It's you who can't stop talking about him. Posting anything he does or says. He's been gone for almost two years now.

He broke you, Cack. You're in a lot of company though. He broke a lot of people.

Nah not really. Traitors need to get their just desserts. I’ll continue following him even when we learn he sold classifies secrets to our enemies. Y’all will just wash your hands move on. I want to know who is continuing to undermine our democracy as well but y’all will just overlook it until a Dem does it.

I’m also keeping tabs on how our justice system responds to a POTUS and his cronies attempted coup and what they are doing coming up in 2024.

 

[ulukinatme]

Nah not really. Traitors need to get their just desserts. I’ll continue following him even when we learn he sold classifies secrets to our enemies. Y’all will just wash your hands move on. I want to know who is continuing to undermine our democracy as well but y’all will just overlook it until a Dem does it.

I’m also keeping tabs on how our justice system responds to a POTUS and his cronies attempted coup and what they are doing coming up in 2024.

You've got the wrong administration.

 

[ulukinatme]

 

[Cackalacky2.0]

You've got the wrong administration.

How is this administration level and POTUS level lol. Tell me how you know this person was loyal to Biden while claiming to be patriotic towards Russia and willing to help them. Come on man. Lmao. Trying to equate this to Trump lolololololololol. Trump stole 200000 pages of documents that we know of. 🤦‍♀️

 

[TorontoGold]

How is this administration level and POTUS level lol. Tell me how you know this person was loyal to Biden while claiming to be patriotic towards Russia and willing to help them. Come on man. Lmao. Trying to equate this to Trump lolololololololol. Trump stole 200000 pages of documents that we know of. 🤦‍♀️

Yes, but they're trans, and we hate them. That's worth at least 2000 MyPillow bucks.

 

[Irish#1]

the mental gymnastics you guys go through to defend trump and his deep deep love of Putin is amazing.

The Trump thread goes dormant and every time it raises its head it seems it’s you who bumped it. Then today you post a Trump rendition of War and Peace to prove your point? Congratulations on your gold medal.