Politics

[Irish#1]

Whether they voted for it or not, The bill passed so why not ask for money? It’s not like this is the first time something like this occurred.

I was against the Covid hand out, but you bet your bippy I took it.

 

[Cackalacky2.0]

 

[drayer54]

Bruv, I'm telling my grandchildren this was Frederick Douglas.

More so sums up how dumb Noah is

 

[Cackalacky2.0]

More so sums up how dumb Noah is

Lol. It’s so true. Abortions are totally cool if it allows GOP to pick up a seat. No problems. Deadbeat dad? Awesome. Numerous kids out of wedlock? Sweet. Meanwhile we will destroy a woman’s rights, and claim moral high ground on marriage and Gods will.

I mean ffs MGT has been talking about marriage culture war topics all months then her husband files for divorce and we find out she has been a serial cheater. Lol.

Gingrich divorced his third wife while she was dying of cancer in a hospital. Lol

That soulless harpy Dana Loesch just said she didn’t care about Walkers abortion she just wanted the seat. Quote!

 

[sixstar]

Problems of a two party system.

You usually get trash candidates, so voters feel like they have to choose between the least evil.

 

[Cackalacky2.0]

Problems of a two party system.

You usually get trash candidates, so voters feel like they have to choose between the least evil.

I’m not in a party but many times I’ve not voted for either candidate if I feel that is the right choice for me.

 

[Bishop2b5]

Traitors can get fucked

You consider Washington and Jefferson to be traitors???

 

[TorontoGold]

Family values baybayyyyy, I remember when redstar.com or whatever TMZ for Maga was melting down over Dem politicians in public without masks but yet Walker being a deadbeat is...well they're both bad!!1! Conservatives are very serious principled people or so I was told.

 

[Irish#1]

Aren’t we supposed to be forgiving and believe people aren’t responsible for their actions as there is some underlying force that put them in that position?

 

[Cackalacky2.0]

It’s much more than just about forgiveness.

 

[drayer54]

It’s much more than just about forgiveness.

I wasn't aware he was running on ending abortion. Again, I know you are super desperate to make everything about abortion because a unified democrat government has failed miserably in every other category, but this is a super stretch.

 

[Cackalacky2.0]

I wasn't aware he was running on ending abortion. Again, I know you are super desperate to make everything about abortion because a unified democrat government has failed miserably in every other category, but this is a super stretch.

You know exactly that they will codify a ban on abortions given the chance. Lindsey Graham said it not one month ago.

Republicans are bending over backwards to rationalize Walkers fitness. It’s very obvious it’s not about abortion. It’s about controlling women.

 

[drayer54]

You know exactly that they will codify a ban on abortions given the chance. Lindsey Graham said it not one month ago.

Republicans are bending over backwards to rationalize Walkers fitness. It’s very obvious it’s not about abortion. It’s about controlling women.

No, I don’t think that is true at all. Unlike Dems, Republicans are not advocating for crushing the filibuster. They could have in 2017. Lindsay Graham would end abortion, but he’s not the majority. I don’t recall his proposal getting much GOP momentum behind it. The GOP stance does appear to be that Dobbs was correctly decided (and it was) and that is fine.

It’s a tough Senate race. There’s going to be big spending and as I pointed out yesterday, even ads pointing at police bodycam of Warnock’s wife talking about who he really is. The biggest lift of the year appears to bare with Fetterman in PA, who belongs nowhere near DC or any respectable institution. The controlling women thing may fly on the view or MSNBC, but it’s laughable in the real world. I’m hoping the great work of well known Jim Eagle advocate and all-star game defender Brian Kemp lifts Walker to the finish line.

 

[Cackalacky2.0]

Deny it all you want. He said it.

 

[drayer54]

Deny it all you want. He said it.

No...

Let's be honest- Warnock is a rubber stamp for Schumer. Walker would be a rubber stamp for McConnell. Georgia is picking to continue down the path of open borders, surging crime, crippling inflation, a shrinking economy and killing babies OR putting a check on that government.

 

[TorontoGold]

If abortion is murder, then 13 years of not making amends or showing remorse would be enough to forgive him? Seems way past the most progressive views of criminal justice reform.

 

[Bishop2b5]

The controlling women thing may fly on the view or MSNBC, but it’s laughable in the real world.

Every time I hear someone claim Conservatives are against abortion because they want to control women or control their bodies, I know beyond any doubt that they're a non-thinker who's just spouting what they've been told without thinking for themselves. No Conservative I know has any interest in "controlling women's bodies." It's never been even the smallest part of the anti-abortion issue. It's an emotional, fear-mongering, simplistic bit of nonsense that appeals to the gullible who lap up everything MSNBC tells them and parrots it back without having to think.

 

[drayer54]

If so called abortion rights are a top tier issue, why is this often missed bad candidate not willing to answer?

 

[NorthDakota]

You know exactly that they will codify a ban on abortions given the chance. Lindsey Graham said it not one month ago.

Republicans are bending over backwards to rationalize Walkers fitness. It’s very obvious it’s not about abortion. It’s about controlling women.

I dont think Republicans would codify a ban on abortion "if given the chance." I don't see them nuking the filibuster to do it, and that is what it would require. Heck, I'm not sure a Republican controlled House would pass a blanket ban. Many of them could easily hide behind the "leave it up to the states" argument. Or some "put it at 12 weeks" argument.

The whole "controlling women" deal is nonsense. Its pretty simple. If you believe the unborn are human beings, you would probably like to see them protected from being terminated/killed/(choose word). This belief is VERY widely held by Americans, and the western world generally. Where people value the life of the unborn over the wishes of the mother varies greatly.

Its also very unclear whether such a bill would pass muster with SCOTUS. Alito's opinion in Dobbs didn't address the issue, it wasn't before the Court.

Regarding Walker, people often tolerate people to represent them who are deeply flawed or even bad people. If Georgia elects him, its probably safe to say its because enough of them think he'll vote in their best interest, despite his warts. Pretty simple.* Ted Kennedy killed a lady and kept getting elected, I doubt his constituents endorsed drunk driving and leaving passengers to die.

*the 17th amendment was a terrible idea and in NoDak's perfect world, it would be abolished.

 

[Cackalacky2.0]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/09/13/abortion-graham-republicans-nationwide-ban/

This was in September. His previous five bills were for 20 weeks not 15. Anti abortion people have a clear goal of ending all abortions because as you put it if you are against killing babies then none should be killed. The codifying law would ban abortion in blue states since red states are already banning them right now due to SCOTUS overturning settled row v wade.

Regardless of you moral stance on abortion it takes away a woman’s autonomy and self determination. Simple.

 

[drayer54]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/09/13/abortion-graham-republicans-nationwide-ban/

This was in September. His previous five bills were for 20 weeks not 15. Anti abortion people have a clear goal of ending all abortions because as you put it if you are against killing babies then none should be killed. The codifying law would ban abortion in blue states since red states are already banning them right now due to SCOTUS overturning settled row v wade.

Regardless of you moral stance on abortion it takes away a woman’s autonomy and self determination. Simple.

You’re saying pro-life people have pushed bills that were pro-life?

The Federal Government has claimed far too much power and hence why elections are too big of a deal. My rights hang in the balance of the electorate. Powers not specifically granted to the Federal Gov should be returned to the states. If you want to live that CNN life, move to California, iLL-Annoy, or NY. If you want to live that Fox News life, move to Indiana, Texas, or Missouri. Let people live how they want to live.

This idea that abortion is on the ballot is insane. No plausible outcome of this race results in a ban on abortion. If you believe self-determination comes from chopping up a fetus, go to a state that protects that ability.

 

[Polish Leppy 22]

You’re saying pro-life people have pushed bills that were pro-life?

The Federal Government has claimed far too much power and hence why elections are too big of a deal. My rights hang in the balance of the electorate. Powers not specifically granted to the Federal Gov should be returned to the states. If you want to live that CNN life, move to California, iLL-Annoy, or NY. If you want to live that Fox News life, move to Indiana, Texas, or Missouri. Let people live how they want to live.

This idea that abortion is on the ballot is insane. No plausible outcome of this race results in a ban on abortion. If you believe self-determination comes from chopping up a fetus, go to a state that protects that ability.

Speaking of the states and federalism, here's the top 10 least popular states people moved to in 2022:

1. NJ
2. California
3. Illinios
4. NY
5. Connecticut
6. Utah
7. Maryland
8. Rhode Island
9. Louisiana
10. Virginia

 

[Cackalacky2.0]

 

[Cackalacky2.0]

Speaking of the states and federalism, here's the top 10 least popular states people moved to in 2022:

1. NJ
2. California
3. Illinios
4. NY
5. Connecticut
6. Utah
7. Maryland
8. Rhode Island
9. Louisiana
10. Virginia

Each of these states except Louisiana are also the least dependent upon federal goverment and provide red states with their state welfare money.

 

[ACamp1900]

If so called abortion rights are a top tier issue, why is this often missed bad candidate not willing to answer?

Abortion is only an issue if they get to frame it to their liking,… ‘you hate women’ and ‘that clump of cells is my body’… if we were to have a real, full dialogue on the issue all hell would break loose because some may actually change their minds and cease being controlled by it all

 

[drayer54]

Each of these states except Louisiana are also the least dependent upon federal goverment and provide red states with their state welfare money.

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Good! Those people love welfare. Let them provide it.

Who do you think has spent more on his campaign-
Mitch McConnell or Chuck Schumer?

 

[Cackalacky2.0]

Good! Those people love welfare. Let them provide it.

Who do you think has spent more on his campaign-
Mitch McConnell or Chuck Schumer?

If the amount of money being handed the these red states was withheld they’d be living in the Stone Age. Lol clowns

 

[Bishop2b5]

Cack listening to a Republican speaker:

 

[Polish Leppy 22]

Each of these states except Louisiana are also the least dependent upon federal goverment and provide red states with their state welfare money.

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Each of these states except Louisiana are also the least dependent upon federal goverment and provide red states with their state welfare money.

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So your conclusion is Americans are avoiding these states because there isn't enough welfare? lmao

 

[drayer54]

Blue states shouldn’t be compared to red states. That’s too tough. Compare them to North Africa.