Immigration

[NorthDakota]

Real curious what measures at the border are being obstructed by Republicans. Surely, this isn’t a bold faced lie.

I dont think it's really a GOP or Dem thing. Just lock it down

 

[ulukinatme]

I dont think it's really a GOP or Dem thing. Just lock it down

The heat has definitely turned up with the buses of immigrants coming in from Texas getting dropped off in DC and other cities. I think it was the mayor of DC calling a public emergency over the growing number of migrants.

 

[drayer54]

The heat has definitely turned up with the buses of immigrants coming in from Texas getting dropped off in DC and other cities. I think it was the mayor of DC calling a public emergency over the growing number of migrants.

Yes. DC getting overwhelmed is amazing to me.

Still debated I guess who created the crisis.

 

[ulukinatme]

Yes. DC getting overwhelmed is amazing to me.

Still debated I guess who created the crisis.

Yeah, Texas and Arizona certainly didn't create this problem.

 

[drayer54]

Any of the super informed crowd care to fact check this one for me?

 

[Irish#1]

Yes. DC getting overwhelmed is amazing to me.

Still debated I guess who created the crisis.

It wasn't a crisis, when Obama was in office. It was a crisis when Trump was in office and it's not a crisis now that Uncle Joe is in office. Anyone else see a pattern here?

 

[Irish#1]

Any of the super informed crowd care to fact check this one for me?

Todd had to be sitting there thinking, "WTF? Kamala"

 

[irishff1014]

Any of the super informed crowd care to fact check this one for me?

She is such a dip shit. She literally answered nothing and stuttered.

 

[drayer54]

GOLD. Democrats won’t understand their failure until it is in their face.

 

[Jiggafini19Deux]

We've got a Proud Boy chapter in Rockford I'd love to ship to Florida or Texas.

 

[Jiggafini19Deux]

Migrants on Martha's Vineyard flight say they were told they were going to Boston

The plane flight carrying dozens of migrants and paid by Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis is the latest move by Republican officials to send migrants to Democrat-controlled cities.

www.npr.org

Ah, yes, tell me more about how Ron DeSantis is "pro life."

And at least one clergy member has spoken:

Cardinal Cupich: “Treating children of God as political pawns is unbecoming of any elected official, especially when it involves marginalized, suffering people,”

 

[drayer54]

Gentle reminder before the “humanitarian crisis” Martha’s Vineyard- Biden sent 70 secret night flights of migrants from border to Florida

 

[Jiggafini19Deux]

Gentle reminder before the “humanitarian crisis” Martha’s Vineyard- Biden sent 70 secret night flights of migrants from border to Florida

It's nothing new. Sort of like the Fox News segments spewing bullshit about it.

They were happening the same way in the previous administration.

 

[drayer54]

It's nothing new. Sort of like the Fox News segments spewing bullshit about it.

They were happening the same way in the previous administration.

Democrats have caused the border crisis and the only way to make them acknowledge it is to push their nose in it.

Otherwise, this is what we get. It’s nonsense. It’s lies.

 

[Jiggafini19Deux]

Democrats have caused the border crisis and the only way to make them acknowledge it is to push their nose in it.

Otherwise, this is what we get. It’s nonsense. It’s lies.

Yeah, I get your stance loud and clear.

The point is that these flights have been going on for years and occur at all hours of the day. They are not new, not secret and have to be done due to federal law.

It's a midterm year, though, so why not weaponize the situation.

 

[drayer54]

Yeah, I get your stance loud and clear.

The point is that these flights have been going on for years and occur at all hours of the day. They are not new, not secret and have to be done due to federal law.

It's a midterm year, though, so why not weaponize the situation.

"weaponize" .... Fentanyl, people, and criminals pour over the border every day, and the administration is doing nothing but denying the problem. Anything they can do to bring this issue front and center is essential for safety and security.

I hope they get more busses. Rub their noses in the pile of crap they made.

 

[ab2cmiller]

"weaponize" .... Fentanyl, people, and criminals pour over the border every day, and the administration is doing nothing but denying the problem. Anything they can do to bring this issue front and center is essential for safety and security.

I hope they get more busses. Rub their noses in the pile of crap they made.

Unfortunately you are correct.

Thankfully we can believe Harris when she repeatedly insists that the border is secure. She is the Border Czar after all.

 

[Jiggafini19Deux]

"weaponize" .... Fentanyl, people, and criminals pour over the border every day, and the administration is doing nothing but denying the problem. Anything they can do to bring this issue front and center is essential for safety and security.

I hope they get more busses. Rub their noses in the pile of crap they made.

The pile of crap has been an issue that's gone unsolved for decades, even with the accountability that lies with the current administration.

Not to mention what the hell is happening in these Central American countries that is causing people to flee. Violence, corruption, poverty, environmental issues where drought and floods cause famine and lack of employment. If we revamp our systems, courts, staff, patrol, ports of entry, etc. we still have to contend with the issues in these other nations in addition to Mexico's role in it. It's a systemic failure of present and past administrations coupled with issues not within direct or indirect control of Democrats or Republicans.

Again, you seem to care far more about rubbing people's noses in it than offering up solutions. What are the solutions?

1. Rubbing it in the noses of Libs.
2. More buses, more planes

Anything else?

 

[ab2cmiller]

We can start with not having future Presidents tell immigrants that they should surge to the border in a nationally televised debate.

Illegal immigration has always been a problem. Biden simply decided to pour gasoline on the fire.

 

[drayer54]

The pile of crap has been an issue that's gone unsolved for decades, even with the accountability that lies with the current administration.

Not to mention what the hell is happening in these Central American countries that is causing people to flee. Violence, corruption, poverty, environmental issues where drought and floods cause famine and lack of employment. If we revamp our systems, courts, staff, patrol, ports of entry, etc. we still have to contend with the issues in these other nations in addition to Mexico's role in it. It's a systemic failure of present and past administrations coupled with issues not within direct or indirect control of Democrats or Republicans.

Again, you seem to care far more about rubbing people's noses in it than offering up solutions. What are the solutions?

1. Rubbing it in the noses of Libs.
2. More buses, more planes

Anything else?

Has it, though? Trump didn't have out-of-control border traffic. Hell, OBAMA didn't even have this. It's not perfect, but you patrol the border and send them back. We don't do that under Joe Biden. As a candidate, Biden sent the smoke signal that it would be an open season at the border, a rare promise he has kept.

We live in a time where the media won't think critically about a Democratic administration. To make problems caused by Democrats clear to the people, they have to be in front of a megaphone and clear as the rise in your grocery bill. Democrats won't acknowledge the failure or begin to address it until it bubbles up. So let it go; send them where the Democrats can see them. Democrats refuse to go to the border, so send the border to them. Send them to DC, NYC, Chicago, Portland, and Martha's Vineyard until even those deeply entrenched in the liberal bubble can see the problem. They cannot deny the reality as they've been doing for two years.

This DHS is incompetent and needs to be reigned in. The agents have zero faith in their leadership and have physically turned their backs on the leadership.

 

[Jiggafini19Deux]

Has it, though? Trump didn't have out-of-control border traffic. Hell, OBAMA didn't even have this. It's not perfect, but you patrol the border and send them back. We don't do that under Joe Biden. As a candidate, Biden sent the smoke signal that it would be an open season at the border, a rare promise he has kept.

We live in a time where the media won't think critically about a Democratic administration. To make problems caused by Democrats clear to the people, they have to be in front of a megaphone and clear as the rise in your grocery bill. Democrats won't acknowledge the failure or begin to address it until it bubbles up. So let it go; send them where the Democrats can see them. Democrats refuse to go to the border, so send the border to them. Send them to DC, NYC, Chicago, Portland, and Martha's Vineyard until even those deeply entrenched in the liberal bubble can see the problem. They cannot deny the reality as they've been doing for two years.

This DHS is incompetent and needs to be reigned in. The agents have zero faith in their leadership and have physically turned their backs on the leadership.

You're talking about bubbles?

 

[drayer54]

You're talking about bubbles?

I feel like I’ve drifted into one on this board.

 

[Jiggafini19Deux]

I feel like I’ve drifted into one on this board.

Well, no, you're just not screaming into your own echo chamber.

All it took was a little bit pushback and the forum got shut down temporarily because some folks couldn't handle it.

At any rate, I wish you well.

 

[ACamp1900]

my community got hit by bussed in immigrants and criminals for years before I finally moved out,… I’ll let you guess the motives or party behind it all. The TL/DR of this whole issue is the same as every other topic in these threads: if my party does it it’s a non issue,… if the other does it’s not only an issue, it’s pure unfiltered evil.

 

[ulukinatme]

my community got hit by bussed in immigrants and criminals for years before I finally moved out,… I’ll let you guess the motives or party behind it all. The TL/DR of this whole issue is the same as every other topic in these threads: if my party does it it’s a non issue,… if the other does it’s not only an issue, it’s pure unfiltered evil.

 

[ACamp1900]

And place them in the best five star compassionate cages ever,……… until a republican wins the presidency

 

[Irish#1]

Democrats have caused the border crisis and the only way to make them acknowledge it is to push their nose in it.

Otherwise, this is what we get. It’s nonsense. It’s lies.

I was waiting for to to finally look up and say, “Uh, I got nothing.” Lol

 

[SonofOahu]

I thought you christian conservatives believed in caring for the weak or whatever it is that you people repeat to make yourselves feel better. What pathetic behavior.

 

[Sea Turtle]

I thought you christian conservatives believed in caring for the weak or whatever it is that you people repeat to make yourselves feel better. What pathetic behavior.

We believe in nations and borders. This isnt sustainable. We cant take in every poor person on earth who wants to come to america.

How many migrants have you taken in? Your so compassionate to the 'weak''. Should we send some to Hawaii so you can share the burden too? Maybe invite some to your neighbors as well on their dime? It's real easy to be compassionate with other people's money, resources, land and neighborhoods.

Cack, as well. I know he's no NIMBY hypocrit. He won't call the national guard to remove them from HIS neighborhood in less than 30 hours like those rich, white racists on Martha's Vinyard.

 

[GoIrish41]

And how are we supposed to distinguish between the deserving and undeserving?

Skin color?