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IDK man. 538 generic polls show majority want democratic congress and the women vote is pissed. Also show Dems likely to pick up multiple Senate seats while holding on to almost all of their current ones. House is now a tossup for Dems to remain in power but the abortion topic and general corruption of the GOP is a big deal for Dem turnout.

GOP wont put abortion back on any referendums ever again after what happened in kansas. That means getting a congress and president to legislate and codify is a huge deal for women. All the special elections have recently gone for Dems by a decent margin.

Dems have dramatically outspent GOP early, likely because the numbers were terrifying to them early, and they were dumping money on "MAGA Fascists" simultaneously to make hot primaries on the right. The GOP spending is just starting, and traditionally, an underwater President catches up with the incumbents in the closing months.

I struggle to believe abortion moves many people across the aisle on the vote. Especially as inflation and crime are still a black eye for Dems.

I'm not so confident in Senate races. Again, the early spending lead for dems, and 2020 R performance against polling was favorable.

Georgia looks good for the red team, even if election denier Abrams is underperforming Warnock.

 

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Dems have dramatically outspent GOP early, likely because the numbers were terrifying to them early, and they were dumping money on "MAGA Fascists" simultaneously to make hot primaries on the right. The GOP spending is just starting, and traditionally, an underwater President catches up with the incumbents in the closing months.

I struggle to believe abortion moves many people across the aisle on the vote. Especially as inflation and crime are still a black eye for Dems.

I'm not so confident in Senate races. Again, the early spending lead for dems, and 2020 R performance against polling was favorable.

Georgia looks good for the red team, even if election denier Abrams is underperforming Warnock.


I believe the abortion issue and among others things that will taken away or sent to the states by this extreme SCOTUS will be very much a top priority for Dems and many, many women who won’t want to be forced to give birth.
 

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I believe the abortion issue and among others things that will taken away or sent to the states by this extreme SCOTUS will be very much a top priority for Dems and many, many women who won’t want to be forced to give birth.

Extreme is interesting. Returning an unspecified right to the states isn't that extreme to some, but the right to kill a child is also clearly important to some.
Others view Biden's partisan spending, executive debt relief, and Nuremberg speech as extreme. It's all relative, I guess.
 

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Extreme is interesting. Returning an unspecified right to the states isn't that extreme to some, but the right to kill a child is also clearly important to some.
Others view Biden's partisan spending, executive debt relief, and Nuremberg speech as extreme. It's all relative, I guess.
The least extreme thing was to allow people to make their own private decisions. If you don’t want one. Don’t have one.

That’s twice now in three posts you have used Nuremberg to describe Bidens. Speech on the danger of extremist MAGa movement on American democracy. If you are upset about a factual statement that MAGa embraces antidemocractic actions, insurrection and openly tolerates fascists then that tells me more about you then it does anything else.
 

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The least extreme thing was to allow people to make their own private decisions. If you don’t want one. Don’t have one.
That argument doesn't come close to holding water. There are LOTS of things we prohibit by law because letting everyone make their own personal decision about whether or not to do that thing would be harmful to society or to individuals. Murder, child molesting, infanticide, rape, selling heroin, assault, and etc. are just a few obvious examples. Civilization and laws are to protect individuals and society - especially the most defenseless - from those who don't have a well-developed sense of right and wrong, or simply don't care about harming others as long as they get what they want. Abortion is an immoral, abhorrent practice that differs to no real degree from killing your infant or 2-year-old because they're an inconvenience or too expensive. Just leaving it up to the individual to decide to commit murder or not is ridiculous.
 

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The least extreme thing was to allow people to make their own private decisions. If you don’t want one. Don’t have one.

That’s twice now in three posts you have used Nuremberg to describe Bidens. Speech on the danger of extremist MAGa movement on American democracy. If you are upset about a factual statement that MAGa embraces antidemocractic actions, insurrection and openly tolerates fascists then that tells me more about you then it does anything else.
His speech, the scenery, the military at his side, and his insane message was the most extreme speech I've ever seen from a President. It was completely uncalled for and divisive, to say the least.

"With malice toward none, with charity for all, with firmness in the right as God gives us to see the right, let us strive on to finish the work we are in, to bind up the nation's wounds."- Lincoln

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You may not like your political opponents, but for a man who "doesn't see red states or blue states" but his DOJ is weaponized against only one and has called his opponents fascist. Forget the disniformation chief, the collusion with big tech, deplatforming/de-banking conservatives, and partisan spending. It's insane.

The irony of this after 4 years of Trump is pure comedy:


But yes- the Biden speech resembled an angry dictator and not the voice of the free world. I'm not alone in thinking it was a low for our country.
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When your platform is pure emotion, being a constant state grievance is a must. Don't have to look far to that is the case.
Don't forget revenge. Proclaiming for all to hear that the agenda, should they get control of the House again, is to impeach and investigate everything but nothing in particular sounds interesting.

Meanwhile, in the Senate, Ted Cruz keeps talking about Mickey Mouse and Pluto fucking.
 

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Don't forget revenge. Proclaiming for all to hear that the agenda, should they get control of the House again, is to impeach and investigate everything but nothing in particular sounds interesting.

Meanwhile, in the Senate, Ted Cruz keeps talking about Mickey Mouse and Pluto fucking.
The administration has completely ran away from the Afghanistan debacle.
We have serious and legitimate concerns about what is happening at DOJ. Democrats have done nothing with these.
We have evidence of big tech collusion with the White House and a nightmare at the border.

The media refuses to attack or pose critical thinking in the direction of Democrats.

We’ve had primetime Hollywood Jan-6 theater with one side of the aisle.

We aren’t investigating Covid origins. Zero curiosity there. School shutdowns have been catastrophic and came from pro-lockdown politicians who have had zero accountability.

What do you expect?

Also- big difference between people saying fuck their president and a President stooping to aggressive rhetoric with Marines at his side.
 

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Don't forget revenge. Proclaiming for all to hear that the agenda, should they get control of the House again, is to impeach and investigate everything but nothing in particular sounds interesting.

Meanwhile, in the Senate, Ted Cruz keeps talking about Mickey Mouse and Pluto fucking.
And Ted Cruz is supposed to be the intellectual one. It looks like they miss the warm and fuzzies they got from the prior guy.
 

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The administration has completely ran away from the Afghanistan debacle.
We have serious and legitimate concerns about what is happening at DOJ. Democrats have done nothing with these.
We have evidence of big tech collusion with the White House and a nightmare at the border.

The media refuses to attack or pose critical thinking in the direction of Democrats.

We’ve had primetime Hollywood Jan-6 theater with one side of the aisle.

We aren’t investigating Covid origins. Zero curiosity there. School shutdowns have been catastrophic and came from pro-lockdown politicians who have had zero accountability.

What do you expect?

Also- big difference between people saying fuck their president and a President stooping to aggressive rhetoric with Marines at his side.
What’s your Truth social handle?
 

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That argument doesn't come close to holding water. There are LOTS of things we prohibit by law because letting everyone make their own personal decision about whether or not to do that thing would be harmful to society or to individuals. Murder, child molesting, infanticide, rape, selling heroin, assault, and etc. are just a few obvious examples. Civilization and laws are to protect individuals and society - especially the most defenseless - from those who don't have a well-developed sense of right and wrong, or simply don't care about harming others as long as they get what they want. Abortion is an immoral, abhorrent practice that differs to no real degree from killing your infant or 2-year-old because they're an inconvenience or too expensive. Just leaving it up to the individual to decide to commit murder or not is ridiculous.

Republicans in June: Leave it to the States

Republicans in September: Here's our nationwide ban.
 

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Republicans in June: Leave it to the States

Republicans in September: Here's our nationwide ban.
So full of shit its unbearable. Put it on the ballot in every state. What are they scared of? Are they scared it will happen just like in Kansas and get rejected by 70/30? It should be left to the people right? No need for a legislature full of men to decide for all the state when the people can decide for themselves yes? At least I was told that is what freedom is righ t Aperson deciding for themselves what is best. Maybe a person could decide not have an abortion? Maybe they could have the personal freedom to decide whatever and everyone else can fuck off? Eh thats what we had before this SCOTUS took that away and put it in the hands of a bunch of conservative males who want to control a woman's personal autonomy. Hypocrites.
 

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So full of shit its unbearable. Put it on the ballot in every state. What are they scared of? Are they scared it will happen just like in Kansas and get rejected by 70/30? It should be left to the people right? No need for a legislature full of men to decide for all the state when the people can decide for themselves yes? At least I was told that is what freedom is righ t Aperson deciding for themselves what is best. Maybe a person could decide not have an abortion? Maybe they could have the personal freedom to decide whatever and everyone else can fuck off? Eh thats what we had before this SCOTUS took that away and put it in the hands of a bunch of conservative males who want to control a woman's personal autonomy. Hypocrites.
Losing. They're scared of losing.

They saw what happened in Kansas. It was on the ballot and the people spoke. Some Republican candidates at the state and Federal level on the ballot in November are walking back their stances, especially the "no exceptions" types. Too late. You'd think they would know they overplayed their hand already with SCOTUS, but now proposing a national ban with Lindsey Graham spearheading it? Horrible political strategy.

The states with the biggest increases so far in women as a share of new registered voters, pre/post Dobbs:

- KS (defeated anti-choice amendment)
- AK (elected a Dem woman to US House)
- PA (Trumper Gov candidate pushing 6 week ban)
- AZ (impending 15 wk ban)
- OH (6 wk ban)

Things are also happening in NV, NC, FL, WI. What to these and the ones above share in common?

31 states have also seen voters under the age of 25 account for a larger share of new registrants since Dobbs.
 

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Did you get an invite to the Inflation Reduction Act celebration on the day of “surprising” and “unexpected” inflation numbers?
Nope. Inflation is a global issue right now everywhere. Biden has as much to do with that as gas prices.

On a personal note my family is killing it right now. Never been better.
 

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Losing. They're scared of losing.

They saw what happened in Kansas. It was on the ballot and the people spoke. Some Republican candidates at the state and Federal level on the ballot in November are walking back their stances, especially the "no exceptions" types. Too late. You'd think they would know they overplayed their hand already with SCOTUS, but now proposing a national ban with Lindsey Graham spearheading it? Horrible political strategy.

The states with the biggest increases so far in women as a share of new registered voters, pre/post Dobbs:

- KS (defeated anti-choice amendment)
- AK (elected a Dem woman to US House)
- PA (Trumper Gov candidate pushing 6 week ban)
- AZ (impending 15 wk ban)
- OH (6 wk ban)

Things are also happening in NV, NC, FL, WI. What to these and the ones above share in common?

31 states have also seen voters under the age of 25 account for a larger share of new registrants since Dobbs.
Yeah the women vote and new young voter registrations should be scaring the shut out of the GOP
 

Jiggafini19Deux

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Yeah the women vote and new young voter registrations should be scaring the shut out of the GOP
In theory, but if your plan is to just have the election results tossed out if you don't like them, the safety net is pretty sturdy against it.

Please, though, don't mention Fascism when it comes to throwing out election results you don't favor.
 

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Nope. Inflation is a global issue right now everywhere. Biden has as much to do with that as gas prices.

On a personal note my family is killing it right now. Never been better.
Glad your are. Big raise? Another trip to the grocery for the wife and I cost us $250. Cart was only half full and only a pound hamburger and bacon from the meat department.

Inflation is a global issue, but a lot of what we're seeing is coming directly from our own borders.
 

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You're right. Emotion has been the ticket of the Demos for a while now.
I know you are but what am I?

Many would support someone with actual concrete ideas, becoming the party of "anti-woke" is not providing solutions. Being the party of corporate socialism by providing bailouts and PPP loans to your friends is not sound policy. Claiming to be against government intervention but starting legal fights with tech companies and Disney doesn't sound very Small Government to me.

Anyways I'm sure I'll see follow up with ideas and actual strategies, not just another list of grievances that center around people being big meanies.
 

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That Pennsylvania Senate race is pretty awful. Fetterman is still recovering from a stroke and has speech issues, he should step down and let someone else run. Oz is a clown, he doesn't belong in that race. I don't think either cut the mustard for the people of PA. I thought Kathy Barnette should have won the Republican primary, but it sounds like Fox News did her dirty and pushed Oz instead.
 

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I’ll post others. I’m aware there are biases lol. They get a B/C from 538


For the record I’m only sharing for discussion sake not claiming they are infallible or inerrant lol. And they aren’t my polls haha.
 
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