Sept 3 | Ohio State

[IrishSpartan]

Did Colzie or Merriweather even play?

 

[dang227]

Tommy Rees is Jim Knowles' bitch, plain and simple. If Knowles doesn't join the Fuckeyes we may win this game


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[Irishdrunk]

Tommy Rees is Jim Knowles' bitch, plain and simple. If Knowles doesn't join the Fuckeyes we may win this game


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Or if Notre Dame had a different and more experienced offensive coordinator we win that game.

People used to dump on Kelly for holding the offense back while we now know it’s Tommy that’s holding the offense back

 

[IrishLax]

After sleeping on it — no snap judgments until we see if they can fix the OL. The OL was just so bad I don’t know how you evaluate the other players.

I was very confident in Alt, Fisher, and Patterson. I was a skeptic on Correll and Lugg is who he is. Without Patterson you basically have two good bookends with three guys in the middle who can’t get any push in the run game and just ole most interior pass rushers. Need to move Patterson back to center and then trial Kristofic/Spindler/freshmen until you find who works. If we can’t run the ball, then we are screwed because Buchner has a 0% chance of winning games chucking it all over the field like Tommy would do with Coan or another real pocket passer. ND is a 6-8 win team if they can’t run the ball.

 

[Irish#1]

Hey fight me at a YMCA! Or whatever INLaw said lol

Which Y? Need to get my itinerary right.

 

[TNUtoNotreDame]

Or if Notre Dame had a different and more experienced offensive coordinator we win that game.

People used to dump on Kelly for holding the offense back while we now know it’s Tommy that’s holding the offense back

Shhhhhhhhhh. Wrong speak. Blame the oline, nothing else.

 

[du Lac]

After sleeping on it — no snap judgments until we see if they can fix the OL. The OL was just so bad I don’t know how you evaluate the other players.

I was very confident in Alt, Fisher, and Patterson. I was a skeptic on Correll and Lugg is who he is. Without Patterson you basically have two good bookends with three guys in the middle who can’t get any push in the run game and just ole most interior pass rushers. Need to move Patterson back to center and then trial Kristofic/Spindler/freshmen until you find who works. If we can’t run the ball, then we are screwed because Buchner has a 0% chance of winning games chucking it all over the field like Tommy would do with Coan or another real pocket passer. ND is a 6-8 win team if they can’t run the ball.

It’ll look fixed vs Marshall. Our schedule is pretty much crap until November 5 with the exception of a mediocre BYU

 

[Dizzyphil]

After sleeping on it — no snap judgments until we see if they can fix the OL. The OL was just so bad I don’t know how you evaluate the other players.

I was very confident in Alt, Fisher, and Patterson. I was a skeptic on Correll and Lugg is who he is. Without Patterson you basically have two good bookends with three guys in the middle who can’t get any push in the run game and just ole most interior pass rushers. Need to move Patterson back to center and then trial Kristofic/Spindler/freshmen until you find who works. If we can’t run the ball, then we are screwed because Buchner has a 0% chance of winning games chucking it all over the field like Tommy would do with Coan or another real pocket passer. ND is a 6-8 win team if they can’t run the ball.

Yep... what really hurt was the 3rd down conversions. The Irish pretty much matched YPP last night. Also, not enough outs and slants that should have come later in the third and in the fourth quarters. The pressure was on throughout the 2nd half. Rees should have shortened up the routes and run a couple of draws/screens to relieve the pressure.

 

[Grahambo]

After sleeping on it — no snap judgments until we see if they can fix the OL. The OL was just so bad I don’t know how you evaluate the other players.

I was very confident in Alt, Fisher, and Patterson. I was a skeptic on Correll and Lugg is who he is. Without Patterson you basically have two good bookends with three guys in the middle who can’t get any push in the run game and just ole most interior pass rushers. Need to move Patterson back to center and then trial Kristofic/Spindler/freshmen until you find who works. If we can’t run the ball, then we are screwed because Buchner has a 0% chance of winning games chucking it all over the field like Tommy would do with Coan or another real pocket passer. ND is a 6-8 win team if they can’t run the ball.

The one play that sticks out is Sawyer (maybe Eichenberg) came screaming up the middle untouched while Lugg double teamed with Fisher. Buchner still in his drop when he gets crushed. The worst of it was Lugg’s back was nearly showing to the gaping hole that was left so he never even attempted to put a hand up. I’m not even sure he saw him on what looked to be a pretty simple blitz.

 

[Irish#1]

The play calling was sad.. we weren’t establishing a run until TB proved he could throw the ball & our OL wasn’t giving him time.

So instead of throwing screens or quick outs/slants we try QB runs.. We needed to establish a passing game to open up the run..

Outside of no screens I think Tommy called what he did because of the O line play, particularly the middle. Patterson was sorely missed. Maybe Lugg plays better with Patterson next to him? Lugg let two guys come through pretty much untouched. Moving Patterson back to C might be needed.

 

[MacIrish75]

After sleeping on it — no snap judgments until we see if they can fix the OL. The OL was just so bad I don’t know how you evaluate the other players.

I was very confident in Alt, Fisher, and Patterson. I was a skeptic on Correll and Lugg is who he is. Without Patterson you basically have two good bookends with three guys in the middle who can’t get any push in the run game and just ole most interior pass rushers. Need to move Patterson back to center and then trial Kristofic/Spindler/freshmen until you find who works. If we can’t run the ball, then we are screwed because Buchner has a 0% chance of winning games chucking it all over the field like Tommy would do with Coan or another real pocket passer. ND is a 6-8 win team if they can’t run the ball.

I felt exactly this way last night. The tackles were fine—Blake was a little Rusty—but the interior OL was abysmal.

 

[INLaw]

Which Y? Need to get my itinerary right.

The traditional Y for ie battling is Irsay we were told but also most of us including myself don’t know where that is. I am assuming indy area

 

[INLaw]

It’ll look fixed vs Marshall. Our schedule is pretty much crap until November 5 with the exception of a mediocre BYU

Yeah gonna be like last year where amazing offensive improvement 100% correlates to shit defenses. Until clemson time

 

[INLaw]

Kinda beginning to look like correll can’t play at this level and his holding up against bama in the covid season was a mirage

 

[ThePiombino]

3rd & 16 & we’re running a QB draw give up play,. It was stuff like that all night.

Not one single offensive drive looked commanding.

alright. I’m taking my drunk ass to bed.

Yep, at least arm punt it there and pray for a PI.

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[du Lac]

This is one of those games where I’m getting more pissed off the more time goes on and I think about the fact that we couldn’t score a single point in the second half and everyone did everything they could possible to win that game besides Tommy Rees. If someone said at halftime all you have to do to win this major game is score 12 points in the second half and it’s all yours and instead we score 0. We all knew they were going to put up some points in the second half so choosing not to find a way to get some points spelled certain loss. You couldn’t ask for anything more than what Al Golden did last night. He’s phenomenal.

 

[irishff1014]

Even though the offense choked it shows that a positive coach can be good at ND. The tackling until they got tired was damn good. The defense was pretty fast overall. No way with Kelly is it this close of a game. And special teams has to put the team in better Field position.

 

[Grahambo]

Yep, at least arm punt it there and pray for a PI.

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A little surprised teams don’t have “PI” play in their book. Maybe some do but definitely one where it’s ‘go long’ and the WRs job is to draw the PI.

 

[pumpdog20]

So we giving Stuckey a pass bc the OL is weak and most of the receivers who played aren’t that good?

Sounds about right. He can only work with what he's got. As long as he gets some talent in, he gets a pass for this group. My opinion

 

[greyhammer90]

So we giving Stuckey a pass bc the OL is weak and most of the receivers who played aren’t that good?

Stuckey gets a pass this whole year as far as im concerned

 

[Jimmy3Putt]

Stuckey gets a pass this whole year as far as im concerned

With the current players. He better keep the committed talent though.

 

[Grahambo]

So we giving Stuckey a pass bc the OL is weak and most of the receivers who played aren’t that good?

Neither of which are his fault.

 

[stlnd01]

Sounds about right. He can only work with what he's got. As long as he gets some talent in, he gets a pass for this group. My opinion

It’s probably not Stuckey’s fault but that play at the end of the 2nd Quarter when Buchner threw deep down the sideline but Lenzy ran a comeback was oof. That was our shot and if they connect it might’ve been points.

 

[Grahambo]

It’s probably not Stuckey’s fault but that play at the end of the 2nd Quarter when Buchner threw deep down the sideline but Lenzy ran a comeback was oof. That was our shot and if they connect it might’ve been points.

Not saying he’s the difference between winning and losing this game but this is the type of game Avery Davis was missed.

 

[Irish2155]

Which Y? Need to get my itinerary right.

I’m so there. Let’s do this.

 

[Irish du Nord]

Stuckey gets a pass this whole year as far as im concerned

I’d like to see some improvement among the receivers, especially since Del was so lacking in developing receiver skills. I get that it isn’t all going to happen by week one, though. The players aren’t world beaters but they can become more effective, it’s not like we don’t have 2020 level players on the roster right now.

 

[FightingIrishLover7]

Kinda beginning to look like correll can’t play at this level and his holding up against bama in the covid season was a mirage

"At this level"
Well, most front 7s aren't at this level.
I agree he may not be tier 1 level, but I'm confident he'll have a good year. Especially if Patterson is next to him

 

[Grahambo]

I’d like to see some improvement among the receivers, especially since Del was so lacking in developing receiver skills. I get that it isn’t all going to happen by week one, though. The players aren’t world beaters but they can become more effective, it’s not like we don’t have 2020 level players on the roster right now.

Matt Salerno caught a 29 yard pass in a tight game at OSU. Improvement level achieved.

Lol

 

[Sea Turtle]

"At this level"
Well, most front 7s aren't at this level.
I agree he may not be tier 1 level, but I'm confident he'll have a good year. Especially if Patterson is next to him

Every team in the playoffs will be 'at this level'.

They need better performance, s&c, toughness and attitude or they will keep getting slaughtered against playoff teams.
There is no excuse. They have the talent. Miami and FSU stacked the line against the Holtz teams. They did fine.

 

[irishff1014]

So listening to the press conference the game plan was to slow play the offense. After watching the game that what they came up with. And that’s what Freeman wanted. So they self admitted to themselves that the offense wasn’t good enough.