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100% we did/do. There's still a decent contingent of anti-vax people out there. The real key was having our conservative provincial governments embrace vaccines and not make it a political issue. We have a political party that made it a key policy point to be anti-vax lol

Bernier needs to STFU and go away forever.

Cheers anad Go Irish!!
 

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Ya think? Consistent with all studies I've seen. Kid to kid transmission in schools is extremely low. Some schools are choosing to not quarantine and do daily testing of the student during what would be the normal quarantine period.

[TWEET]https://twitter.com/MonicaGandhi9/status/1440816139831971842[/TWEET]
 

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So the Pope of Rome has spoken on this.

And, of course he would.

Is there, at day's end, a bit of difference between vaccine in the bloodstream and the oil in the lamp of which Jesus admonished in Matthew 25?
 

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My friend's daughter was involved in a serious motorcycle accident (driver killed on impact) 12 days ago. It happened at approximately 10:00 p.m. She was in a coma and in critical condition. He was notified about an hour after the accident. He was unable to be with her due to Covid protocols. After almost 20 hours and confirmed negative tests, he and his wife were finally allowed to visit their daughter.

This past Monday they were able to remove the breathing tube. She smiled at him and was trying to process what had happened. The extent of her injuries is still undetermined. Within minutes it was released that the Calgary hospital was undergoing a Covid shutdown due to a number of cases on her floor.

My friend and his wife were told they would have to leave and it would likely be at least three or four days before they would be granted permission to access. Shitty, but fair enough.

As they walked out of the hospital, tears in their eyes, they were met by a large group of anti-mask/anti-vax protesters at the entrance.

Can you imagine?

Be safe and be respectful.

Cheers and Go Irish!!

Update for context.

Still unable to see their daughter due to Covid.

Brain injuries are real. She turned 21 in the hospital. Has memory issues and unclear of full recovery. Was articling as a CPA at a major firm.

Parents haven't seem her since my former post. Anti-Vax/Mask people still out in full force in the hospital parking lot.

Don't even know what to say at this point.

Cheers and Go Irish!!
 

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This is a really well thought out practical article from Dr. Gandhi is an infectious-disease physician and professor of medicine at the University of California, San Francisco.

We should now accept that COVID is endemic and that it should be time to getting back to normal living sooner rather than later.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/covid-e...us-11633015316
 

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Unvaccinated genius Allen West, a recent migrant from Florida to Texas
is hospitalized for COVID. Data obscura or not, West is running for Governor of the Lone Star State

West is reportedly taking ivermectin and hydroxychoraquine.

"You can't fix stupid." Native Texan, Ron White, also know as "Tater Salad."
 

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As mentioned before my wife is a nurse in a Kroger Little Clinic, the second busiest location for Kroger in the country.

A man came in earlier today to get an antibody test after previously being vaccinated in early Spring. It came back negative.
My wife thought "I got my Pfizer shots back in February, I wonder what mine comes back with?" She tested herself, she also came back with nothing.

I know it's been said that the injections wane over time, but it's surprising that there's no protection after just 6-7 months. Makes you wonder how many of us are walking around thinking we're protected when we're clearly not. I'm not sure if this is a ringing endorsement for more boosters or if the shots need to be re-evaluated at this point. Getting a shot every 3-6 months seems excessive and not effective. I'm not sure the supply and the distribution could keep up, places like my wife's work are strained as it is with COVID work.

[EDIT] Disregard, it's not conclusive. Some antibody tests don't trigger for injection only. Some only look for natural immunity.
 
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No antibodies doesn't mean no protection. T cells and B cells provide protection as well.

You're right, I've been looking at this further on the CDC and MIT's web pages. It's not proof positive that you don't have immunity from the injections as some antibody tests may not look for it I guess:

Because these vaccines induce antibodies to specific viral protein targets, post-vaccination antibody test results will be negative in persons without history of previous infection, if the test used does not detect antibodies induced by the vaccine.
 

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You're right, I've been looking at this further on the CDC and MIT's web pages. It's not proof positive that you don't have immunity from the injections as some antibody tests may not look for it I guess:

My question is why haven't they developed a test that can detect antibodies post mrna vaccination? If they have, can someone link it?

I got my booster shot a few weeks ago. It's been almost a full year since I got my first dose so I figured why not. But I will say I did it with slight hesitation that would've been easily relieved had we had a reliable antibody test. Did I need the booster? I have no clue. Probably not. But maybe? I had nothing to go on except the data that mrna immunity may be waning w/ Pfizer and a booster seemed to be working.
 

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UK and Israel lead the world in data transparency.

80% of September deaths in UK were fully vaccinated people. 88% of all hospitalizations were fully vacc'd people.

"Vaccine" LOL.
 

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As mentioned before my wife is a nurse in a Kroger Little Clinic, the second busiest location for Kroger in the country.

A man came in earlier today to get an antibody test after previously being vaccinated in early Spring. It came back negative.
My wife thought "I got my Pfizer shots back in February, I wonder what mine comes back with?" She tested herself, she also came back with nothing.

I know it's been said that the injections wane over time, but it's surprising that there's no protection after just 6-7 months. Makes you wonder how many of us are walking around thinking we're protected when we're clearly not. I'm not sure if this is a ringing endorsement for more boosters or if the shots need to be re-evaluated at this point. Getting a shot every 3-6 months seems excessive and not effective. I'm not sure the supply and the distribution could keep up, places like my wife's work are strained as it is with COVID work.

[EDIT] Disregard, it's not conclusive. Some antibody tests don't trigger for injection only. Some only look for natural immunity.

They originally expected the immunity to last about a year. This was when Fauci was eyeing up his nobel prize (which he still may get, against all common sense).

It's basically gone in 2 months. Major flop, and the data showing it wrecks your immune system is mounting. The Israel panic a month ago to shove a 4th shot in was no coincidence, they were desperate.

We are about to learn a LOT.
 

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UK and Israel lead the world in data transparency.

80% of September deaths in UK were fully vaccinated people. 88% of all hospitalizations were fully vacc'd people.

"Vaccine" LOL.

SMH of course they make up close to 80% of the deaths when the vaccination rate of the most susceptible are close to 95%.

If you dig a little deeper you get the tables of info that give the death rates per 100k of those vaccinated and those not vaccinated.

Age Group
40's - Unvaccinated 5 times the death rate of vaccinated
50's - 8.3 times
60's - 4.8 times
70's - 3.7 times
80's - 2.8 times
 

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UK and Israel lead the world in data transparency.

80% of September deaths in UK were fully vaccinated people. 88% of all hospitalizations were fully vacc'd people.

"Vaccine" LOL.

Lmao, are you ashamed about how bad you've been duped by these conmen, is that why you don't post sources for your tinfoil hat posts?

Take a look at these stats below. It's not even a political thing as prominent people of all stripes have gotten vaccinate.

https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracker/#rates-by-vaccine-status

https://www.statista.com/statistics/1257040/number-covid-deaths-canada-by-vaccination-status/
 

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SMH of course they make up close to 80% of the deaths when the vaccination rate of the most susceptible are close to 95%.

If you dig a little deeper you get the tables of info that give the death rates per 100k of those vaccinated and those not vaccinated.

Age Group
40's - Unvaccinated 5 times the death rate of vaccinated
50's - 8.3 times
60's - 4.8 times
70's - 3.7 times
80's - 2.8 times

As of four days ago, 71% of UK is fully vaccinated. https://graphics.reuters.com/world-...aps/countries-and-territories/united-kingdom/

You can't skate around these numbers. 1,200/1,500 (80%) people who died of COVID in Sept in UK were fully vacc'd. 88% of all COVID hospitalizations were fully vacc'd.

These were originally sold as "stopping the virus". Fauci and every clown at the WHO is on record saying that. The new goal post is "well they stop severe illness" and the data is now showing that's also a joke.

The UK and Israel are by far the most transparent country-wide data. The US won't be able to hold the secret much longer. These "vaccines" are worthless.
 

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Lmao, are you ashamed about how bad you've been duped by these conmen, is that why you don't post sources for your tinfoil hat posts?

Take a look at these stats below. It's not even a political thing as prominent people of all stripes have gotten vaccinate.

https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracker/#rates-by-vaccine-status

https://www.statista.com/statistics/1257040/number-covid-deaths-canada-by-vaccination-status/

Joe Rogan hasn't been vaccinated and that's all that matters.
 

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My bother in laws mom died yesterday due to cardiac failure. She had covid at the time and was serious compromised by smoking for years. Heart gave out trying to breath and COVID made her oxygen level difficult to maintain is what the doctor said.

Also, my wife's stepmom (also with comorbidities) could not get vaccinated because of a disease she has. Her sister got covid and gave it to her and 5 immediate family members. She has been sick for 3 weeks and got worse the whole time. Ultimately she was flown to a hospital all the way across the state because her oxygen keeps dropping and they couldn't treater her anymore at the rural clinic she was at. She went into ICU and hasn't been able to get off a respirator.
 

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My bother in laws mom died yesterday due to cardiac failure. She had covid at the time and was serious compromised by smoking for years. Heart gave out trying to breath and COVID made her oxygen level difficult to maintain is what the doctor said.

Also, my wife's stepmom (also with comorbidities) could not get vaccinated because of a disease she has. Her sister got covid and gave it to her and 5 immediate family members. She has been sick for 3 weeks and got worse the whole time. Ultimately she was flown to a hospital all the way across the state because her oxygen keeps dropping and they couldn't treater her anymore at the rural clinic she was at. She went into ICU and hasn't been able to get off a respirator.

Oh man, sorry to hear this. Prayers for both families.

It’s a damn shame your wife’s stepmom’s HCPs couldn’t direct her to a clinical trial for one of the many MABs that are about to be approved for folks who can’t get the vaccine. Have they since tried to use MABs as treatment or did the therapeutic window close before she had a chance?
 

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[TWEET]https://twitter.com/RandPaul/status/1450996489862459394[/TWEET]

A. What was revealed is that the NIH gave ecohealth a small grant. Ecohealth violated the terms of the grant in a subgrant it made violating NIH policy.

B. There's no connection made by the research done and COVID.

C. Rand loves to grandstand for clicks and could easily have a more productive discussion w Fauci (in part letting him give full answers)

D. We found 3 new coronaviruses in bats in Laos more similar to COVID than RATG13 including one with identical affinity for the human ACE II receptor (Redfield favored lab leak because he thought that affinity was unlikely to arise in nature.)

Pretty clear this arose naturally. Given what's turned up in nature another one of these likely crosses to people in the coming decades. We need to prepare.
 

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Joe Rogan hasn't been vaccinated and that's all that matters.

Gonna go on a little rant here for a second about Joe Rogan...

I've mentioned many times before that I work side by side with a hardcore Lefty Progressive who is easily rattled/triggered by any talking point outside of her world view and bubble. It's laughable most days, as I never take her too serious. However, the days that enrage me are those of today, where her hypocrisy is at peak levels and her hatred for all viewpoints beyond her own shut down the overall point of any one conversation.

With that said, we were talking about being cynical and being a populist as it pertains to anti-big pharma, anti-msm, etc. I know she can't stand Joe Rogan (even though if she actually listened to him more, she'd realize he has some very progressive ideals himself, but I digress). I brought him up anyways to explain the bullshit that is happening between him and CNN/Don Lemon/Dr Gupta. Her head exploded in rage when I merely mentioned that Joe got prescribed a human Rx of Ivermectin and that there are currently large scale trials underway in this country and at Oxford to help clear the air once and for all regarding it's efficacy in treating Covid. I didn't even get into the fact that Merck and Pfizer are about to release their own anti-viral meds that I'm sure will receive a big push by all the people she and I both hate (but again, I digress). The mere mention of Rogan's name riled her up so much that she started raising her voice at me and then walked out of the room. The point of the conversation wasn't even about Joe. It was supposed to be about CNN's lies, ratings, lack of trust and this story being just one recent example.

Joe Rogan has said a lot of stupid shit, but that's not the point. Currently, Ivermectin has not been proven to be effective on any large scale basis, but that doesn't change the fact that what CNN did/said was a boldface lie that should be easy to point out by literally any objective human being. I am so over people and their respective political bubbles. We can't even have honest conversations anymore. It's sickening.

*We also talked about pre-K child care and I tried to mention the two income trap, hyper consumerism, anti-school choice policy, a push for women into the labor force, etc and she shrugged me off with a complete and total hypocritical stance about stagnant wages (which is true in a vacuum but ignored the point I was making about bourgeoisie elitists in this country doing everything in their power to increase their own wealth and their own power at the expense of everyone else, men/women/and children). Again, rage. Anti-feminist finger pointing ensued.

It's been a great morning. Glad I had my coffee already. Happy Tuesday everyone!
 

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Gonna go on a little rant here for a second about Joe Rogan...

I've mentioned many times before that I work side by side with a hardcore Lefty Progressive who is easily rattled/triggered by any talking point outside of her world view and bubble. It's laughable most days, as I never take her too serious. However, the days that enrage me are those of today, where her hypocrisy is at peak levels and her hatred for all viewpoints beyond her own shut down the overall point of any one conversation.

With that said, we were talking about being cynical and being a populist as it pertains to anti-big pharma, anti-msm, etc. I know she can't stand Joe Rogan (even though if she actually listened to him more, she'd realize he has some very progressive ideals himself, but I digress). I brought him up anyways to explain the bullshit that is happening between him and CNN/Don Lemon/Dr Gupta. Her head exploded in rage when I merely mentioned that Joe got prescribed a human Rx of Ivermectin and that there are currently large scale trials underway in this country and at Oxford to help clear the air once and for all regarding it's efficacy in treating Covid. I didn't even get into the fact that Merck and Pfizer are about to release their own anti-viral meds that I'm sure will receive a big push by all the people she and I both hate (but again, I digress). The mere mention of Rogan's name riled her up so much that she started raising her voice at me and then walked out of the room. The point of the conversation wasn't even about Joe. It was supposed to be about CNN's lies, ratings, lack of trust and this story being just one recent example.

Joe Rogan has said a lot of stupid shit, but that's not the point. Currently, Ivermectin has not been proven to be effective on any large scale basis, but that doesn't change the fact that what CNN did/said was a boldface lie that should be easy to point out by literally any objective human being. I am so over people and their respective political bubbles. We can't even have honest conversations anymore. It's sickening.

*We also talked about pre-K child care and I tried to mention the two income trap, hyper consumerism, anti-school choice policy, a push for women into the labor force, etc and she shrugged me off with a complete and total hypocritical stance about stagnant wages (which is true in a vacuum but ignored the point I was making about bourgeoisie elitists in this country doing everything in their power to increase their own wealth and their own power at the expense of everyone else, men/women/and children). Again, rage. Anti-feminist finger pointing ensued.

It's been a great morning. Glad I had my coffee already. Happy Tuesday everyone!

Ivermectin should only be used in trials. You can find doctors to prescribe it if you have money, but the only reasonable trial done doesn't find a benefit. There are a ton of drugs in trials. I hope Joe didn't take any of those without enrolling in trials.

One big failure of our response was the inability to conduct multifactorial RCT's like Britain. A big part of that was docs deciding to throw shit at people whilly nilly up front rather than enroll their patients in trials because they were sure x y or z drug worked.
 

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Gonna go on a little rant here for a second about Joe Rogan...

I've mentioned many times before that I work side by side with a hardcore Lefty Progressive who is easily rattled/triggered by any talking point outside of her world view and bubble. It's laughable most days, as I never take her too serious. However, the days that enrage me are those of today, where her hypocrisy is at peak levels and her hatred for all viewpoints beyond her own shut down the overall point of any one conversation.

With that said, we were talking about being cynical and being a populist as it pertains to anti-big pharma, anti-msm, etc. I know she can't stand Joe Rogan (even though if she actually listened to him more, she'd realize he has some very progressive ideals himself, but I digress). I brought him up anyways to explain the bullshit that is happening between him and CNN/Don Lemon/Dr Gupta. Her head exploded in rage when I merely mentioned that Joe got prescribed a human Rx of Ivermectin and that there are currently large scale trials underway in this country and at Oxford to help clear the air once and for all regarding it's efficacy in treating Covid. I didn't even get into the fact that Merck and Pfizer are about to release their own anti-viral meds that I'm sure will receive a big push by all the people she and I both hate (but again, I digress). The mere mention of Rogan's name riled her up so much that she started raising her voice at me and then walked out of the room. The point of the conversation wasn't even about Joe. It was supposed to be about CNN's lies, ratings, lack of trust and this story being just one recent example.

Joe Rogan has said a lot of stupid shit, but that's not the point. Currently, Ivermectin has not been proven to be effective on any large scale basis, but that doesn't change the fact that what CNN did/said was a boldface lie that should be easy to point out by literally any objective human being. I am so over people and their respective political bubbles. We can't even have honest conversations anymore. It's sickening.

*We also talked about pre-K child care and I tried to mention the two income trap, hyper consumerism, anti-school choice policy, a push for women into the labor force, etc and she shrugged me off with a complete and total hypocritical stance about stagnant wages (which is true in a vacuum but ignored the point I was making about bourgeoisie elitists in this country doing everything in their power to increase their own wealth and their own power at the expense of everyone else, men/women/and children). Again, rage. Anti-feminist finger pointing ensued.

It's been a great morning. Glad I had my coffee already. Happy Tuesday everyone!

That’s a good example of why you should try to avoid all talk of politics/religion/social issues at work. It will only end up pissing you off in the end (or worse, get you fired). I’ve made the mistake myself in the past and do my best to avoid, or at least diffuse, those type of conversations now. Makes work that much more enjoyable:cool:
 

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Gonna go on a little rant here for a second about Joe Rogan...

I've mentioned many times before that I work side by side with a hardcore Lefty Progressive who is easily rattled/triggered by any talking point outside of her world view and bubble.

I never knew you also worked in higher ed.........
 
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