Sept 11 | Toledo

[Huntr]

r\CFB salt mine at FULL CAPACITY

 

[Crazy Balki]

Yep, the OL looks fairly bad now! I'm also surprised that our overall defense isn't a lot better. Giving up combined 60+ pts. thru these 2 games ... yikes!

The only thing as frustrating as the astonishingly terrible OL play is the defense.

I just don't know how this keeps happening that ND's defense can look so good for long periods of time, and then right as everything seems to be going our way, they give up a big play or a big drive and begin to tank.

 

[Pops Freshenmeyer]

Honestly the defense isn’t a huge issue to me. The scheme is way different on the back end which is not a roster strength so I expected some of this. OK, I expected less than we’ve seen. But I think these issues are fixable.

I’ve disagreed with a lot of the negativity directed at certain coaches but we are kind of at the point where a shakeup of the offensive staff is probably necessary.

 

[Crazy Balki]

I missed a lot of the game but didn't the defense only give up one touchdown?

Two actually.

They were doing really well actually for the first three quarters, outside of that big play on the first drive.

That 4th quarter however, was a complete disaster from a defensive perspective. And it's the 2nd game in a row that the defense has collapsed in the 4th.

 

[Crazy Balki]

Honestly the defense isn’t a huge issue to me. The scheme is way different on the back end which is not a roster strength so I expected some of this. OK, I expected less than we’ve seen. But I think these issues are fixable.

I’ve disagreed with a lot of the negativity directed at certain coaches but we are kind of at the point where a shakeup of the offensive staff is probably necessary.

Problem is that most were targeting Del in terms of a shake-up, not Rees or Quinn. Rees was coming off a promising rookie season last year and Quinn put together a very impressive OL.

Quinn is definitely in hot water, because while I understand that he had to replace a lot of starters and there's been injuries, the results so far have been absolutely unacceptable.

 

[NDRock]

Two actually.

They were doing really well actually for the first three quarters, outside of that big play on the first drive.

That 4th quarter however, was a complete disaster from a defensive perspective. And it's the 2nd game in a row that the defense has collapsed in the 4th.

Gotcha. Was following on my phone and thought they ran a kick back. Must have read it wrong.

 

[BrownerandFry]

Most of today's problems are fixable.

The end of the first half pick 6 is on Kelly, unequivocally.

The other two turnovers are precisely two more than a good team makes each game.

The defense, wihthout Botelho? Kollie, Liufau, Simon and Moala will get better.

And there is enough to say grace over on offense, IF the turnovers stop. Buchner today shattered the myth that he would be useless because he had missed two seasons onf high school football.

But the offensive line?

that's a pretty big enchilada hanging out there, and how they fix it or not will be the key to the season.

the limiting constraint on this time is not
the defense
quarterbacks
receivers

It is simply and exclusively the offensive line.

 

[greyhammer90]

I really wish Buchner had tossed a deep dime at some point and ridded me of my fear that he's Wimbush 2.0.

 

[dublinirish]

https://www.elevenwarriors.com/ohio...es-76540-gameday-attendance-lowest-since-1946

Not just ND that has issues with low crowd turnouts for dud match ups

The Shoe was not rocking on Saturday.

Ohio Stadium was more empty than it's been in 50 years on Saturday as Ohio State announced attendance of just 76,540 against Tulsa.

This marks the lowest attendance in Ohio Stadium since Sept. 11, 1971, when the Buckeyes beat Iowa 52–21 in the season opener in front of 75,596 fans.

This obviously excludes the 2020 season, when tickets were not sold to the general public and Ohio State played in a mostly empty stadium.

Ohio State's had struggles filling seats for a number of seasons, but this is the first time those struggles have been so evident in the final announced attendance. Ohio State's official attendance for the home opener against Oregon was 100,482.