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[BrownerandFry]

America has become a nation of males who are princesses on peas whining about petty localized grievances. Meanwhile the unvaccinated in the SEC states......... Ni

 

[Rocket89]

Did you read my post objectively or only with your jaded bias? What atrocious anti-gay comments have I ever made? I never said I didn't want to deal with his personal life and I never said I wouldn't support him if he came to me. He hasn't asked me to do any of that. But according to you, because I think he might be gay I should go ask him? I don't go and pry into any of my employees personal lives. Why should this be different? Because I think he's gay? What if he isn't and is just more effeminate? Do better Rocket.

I provided you a hypothetical for illustrated purposes and you didn’t follow it all. Spare me your “do better” nonsense.

 

[Blazers46]

I don’t know man, kind of seems like your old boss was a good dude and if you’re not a bigot, at the very least you’re an asshole.

Thanking gay foster parents is a bridge too far for you and hey let’s compare it to abortion. Bothered you so damn much years later you brought it up on a message board.

Pretty clear example of how gay culture isn’t being rammed down your throat while perfectly healthy and normal gay culture is too much for you to handle.

You are proving my point for me. He was asking/telling me to go out of my way to thank them for nothing else than being gay. We did not do this for straight foster parents. How is that not pushing his agenda on to me? on to the other staff? On to the agency as a whole? If we are asked to treat Gay people equally why are we as an agency going out of our way to treat them differently? Thanking gay foster parents just for the sole purpose of them being gay is a bridge too far for me because its a lifestyle I do not agree with. I am an asshole because I disagree with you and my former boss? I am an asshole for for not going out of my way to thank someone for being gay? Forcing staff and those that do not agree with you to do something you do not agree with would be an example of ramming it down ones throat.

 

[Blazers46]

Can you provide any evidence this is “being taught” in this school district?

Shocker that you’d share the Daily Wire and once again over-sexualize and demonize gays against children when that isn’t happening.

Edit: You really need proper education about the gay community and to stop reading all this right-wing garbage.

Material is provided for the students by the school. That material is read by the student. The student, by reading, absorbs information. That absorbing of information, read by the student, from material provided by the school.... is called learning

Learning - the acquisition of knowledge or skills through experience, study, or by being taught.

 

[Blazers46]

My sister is gay and has been since I can remember. Her life has been hard everyday becasue of antigay people and those that cant be bothered to try and understand her. Our parents were good parents, took care of us, gave us everything we needed, but think they failed somehow rasing a daughter that was gay. Its taken years for them to accept her. To this day I wear something, anything with a rainbow on it. I dont flout it, I dont get in anyones face about it. She has never made it about her or trying to get in anyone' s face. Actually she is a devout Catholic and struggles with the ramifacations of God making her this way when she knows what it will cost her. Her struggle with being who she is and how God made her versus what a religous and societal dogma says she is supposed to be has been brutal on her.

This is where a lot of us would disagree. I am sure she is a great person. She is just as capable of doing great things as the next. But I would disagree God made her that way. Which is a sticking point in this whole debate. If I ever interacted with her I would treat just the same as the next person, which is also a sticking point because there are on some in this conversation that feel I need to treat her differently because she is gay.

 

[Blazers46]

Ok your post is just absolutely disingenuous and you know it. They have access to books, they aren't being taught it. Now, could you make the claim they shouldn't have access to such books at a young age? Yeah I can agree with that. At the same time too, parents need to continue to do their job and monitor what their kids watch, read, etc.

Kids are incapable of learning by way of reading... got it. I did not say Mr. Smith was giving a lecture on how to use gay bang apps, I am saying the school system provides them with the information and books to learn how to use them. If someone learns how to use a gay bang app, while just chilling in the Library as 4th grader, who is responsible for them learning in that moment?

 

[Blazers46]

I'm not saying it doesn't happen. But what he said in comparison to what was said in the article is untrue.

So you are saying it does happen... how confusing.

 

[Rocket89]

You are proving my point for me. He was asking/telling me to go out of my way to thank them for nothing else than being gay. We did not do this for straight foster parents. How is that not pushing his agenda on to me? on to the other staff? On to the agency as a whole? If we are asked to treat Gay people equally why are we as an agency going out of our way to treat them differently? Thanking gay foster parents just for the sole purpose of them being gay is a bridge too far for me because its a lifestyle I do not agree with. I am an asshole because I disagree with you and my former boss? I am an asshole for for not going out of my way to thank someone for being gay? Forcing staff and those that do not agree with you to do something you do not agree with would be an example of ramming it down ones throat.

It’s quite possible your boss believed the gay couple were dealing with more struggles than your average couple and thus wanted to make them feel more appreciated?

It’s also quite likely your boss sensed your lack of compassion for their situation and wanted to offer you a chance not to be an asshole?

That’s not an agenda from your boss. The real agenda is your issue with gay people and your All Lives Matter BS.

 

[TorontoGold]

It’s quite possible your boss believed the gay couple were dealing with more struggles than your average couple and thus wanted to make them feel more appreciated?

It’s also quite likely your boss sensed your lack of compassion for their situation and wanted to offer you a chance not to be an asshole?

That’s not an agenda from your boss. The real agenda is your issue with gay people and your All Lives Matter BS.

Queue the "WELL I know XYZ person from rural Idaho who has a tough time, you want ME to be kind to them too? Fat chance"

 

[Cackalacky2.0]

This is where a lot of us would disagree. I am sure she is a great person. She is just as capable of doing great things as the next. But I would disagree God made her that way. Which is a sticking point in this whole debate. If I ever interacted with her I would treat just the same as the next person, which is also a sticking point because there are on some in this conversation that feel I need to treat her differently because she is gay.

You disagreeing with her being gay is the same as you disagreeing with me being straight and your opinion on here extends only to how you would treat her. The fact that you disagree about there being a sexual spectrum and identity versus phsyiology is another thing and Im not going to get into it with you.

If anyone treats her differently specifically becasue she is gay then that is biogted, which she has experienced 1000 fold over her life. Im sure you would agree you know yourself better than anyone yes? Well so does she. The conflict lies in that she knows the way she is and has always been since she was aware of it, There wasnt some decision she made and said oh I cant wait to be gay. TOday is the day...Im going to be gay. So logically she is the way she is and God created her that way just as he created me straight.

And dont giveme the bullshit canard about todays society producing gays becasue socialist libtard reasons.... Gays have been around as long as humans have existed. Its a natural phenomena found in many higher social animals as well so its not exclusive to humans

 

[GowerND11]

Yo Bishop, have her attend this school district in Wisconsin. Apparently 8 year olds are being taught anal sex and how to use apps to get anal sex.

https://www.dailywire.com/news/wisco...3MDfo22XN6ikSg

"Are Being Taught..." That isn't being given information and access. That is the active participation of the school and system TEACHING them. You are wrong and being disingenuous as I stated previously. Your second reply is much more in line with what is happening there. I learned about sex in the library in 4th grade because there was a health book in our library. THE HORROR of seeing a bush and penis as a 10 year old. I'll never recover!" Let's also page Whiskeyjack about morality, porn, and the smart phone and we can talk about how kids are learning about this stuff sooner and sooner because of technology and their friends, rather than dad's Playboys.

Now if you really think this school district thought, "Hmm yeah, let's have these books accessible by our 4th graders." I've got a bridge to sell you.

 

[Irish#1]

I provided you a hypothetical for illustrated purposes and you didn’t follow it all. Spare me your “do better” nonsense.

I provided you with factual information which you ignored. I'll spare the "do better nonsense". Stop accusing me of making anti-gay statements.

 

[BrownerandFry]

What is laughable is that weird garbage was being taught in grade schools on the 50,s and ,60's. I heard lots of weird juju from nuns at St. Michael. Parenting mattered then and today. But theres is a growth industri on convincing dupes to come unglued about something that Might be happening a thousand miles away. It,s easy money selling fear anger and haté. You can make $80 mill a year scaring people the sumber the better!

 

[Blazers46]

It’s quite possible your boss believed the gay couple were dealing with more struggles than your average couple and thus wanted to make them feel more appreciated?

It’s also quite likely your boss sensed your lack of compassion for their situation and wanted to offer you a chance not to be an asshole?

That’s not an agenda from your boss. The real agenda is your issue with gay people and your All Lives Matter BS.

Its amazing how much more you think you know about my own story than I do... to the contrary. They actually seemed rather uncomfortable with it and we had a great working relationship and still run into each since we share some of the same friends and do some of the community stuff together. Great people.

 

[Rocket89]

I provided you with factual information which you ignored. I'll spare the "do better nonsense". Stop accusing me of making anti-gay statements.

Never accused you of making those statements.

 

[Rocket89]

Its amazing how much more you think you know about my own story than I do... to the contrary. They actually seemed rather uncomfortable with it and we had a great working relationship and still run into each since we share some of the same friends and do some of the community stuff together. Great people.

Yup, great people whose lifestyle you should have zero problem accepting.

 

[Blazers46]

You disagreeing with her being gay is the same as you disagreeing with me being straight and your opinion on here extends only to how you would treat her. The fact that you disagree about there being a sexual spectrum and identity versus phsyiology is another thing and Im not going to get into it with you.

If anyone treats her differently specifically becasue she is gay then that is biogted, which she has experienced 1000 fold over her life. Im sure you would agree you know yourself better than anyone yes? Well so does she. The conflict lies in that she knows the way she is and has always been since she was aware of it, There wasnt some decision she made and said oh I cant wait to be gay. TOday is the day...Im going to be gay. So logically she is the way she is and God created her that way just as he created me straight.

And dont giveme the bullshit canard about todays society producing gays becasue socialist libtard reasons.... Gays have been around as long as humans have existed. Its a natural phenomena found in many higher social animals as well so its not exclusive to humans

To the first bolded... I also disagree with cheating on your spouse. I am currently friends with plenty of people that have cheated and regularly cheat. If we were to teach people in school that cheating on your spouse should be celebrated I would have a HUGE problem with that as well just the same. I have relatives addicted to porn, I treat them just the same as the next relative. I have friends that God and are atheists, I treat them just the same as the next person. I have friends that are gay, I treat them just same as the next person. One of my best friends is Muslim, we love baseball and sports. I have a friend that loves Michigan football, honestly hes probably the hardest to get along with. I have a friend that has been twice convicted of selling cocaine to a police officer, I write him every month and put money on his books every month. To assume just because I completely disagree with ones lifestyle ultimately means I would treat them differently than the next person is very ignorant and telling of your own bias toward certain groups.

To the second bolded... I literally just told a story of my boss treating a gay couple differently and wanting everyone in the office to treat them different because they were gay and Rocket89 seems to think it was okay to treat them different and celebrate them even when I object. But I only object to treating them differently but he called me an asshole... now you tell me treating them differently I would be bigoted. Maybe you guys can hash out what you two think your messaging should be because its quite confusing.

To the third bolded... its amazing people use animals that also lick themselves to justify a human behavior.

 

[Blazers46]

Yup, great people whose lifestyle you should have zero problem accepting.

Amen, and who I am to treat them any differently than the next person.

 

[Rocket89]

You disagreeing with her being gay is the same as you disagreeing with me being straight and your opinion on here extends only to how you would treat her. The fact that you disagree about there being a sexual spectrum and identity versus phsyiology is another thing and Im not going to get into it with you.

If anyone treats her differently specifically becasue she is gay then that is biogted, which she has experienced 1000 fold over her life. Im sure you would agree you know yourself better than anyone yes? Well so does she. The conflict lies in that she knows the way she is and has always been since she was aware of it, There wasnt some decision she made and said oh I cant wait to be gay. TOday is the day...Im going to be gay. So logically she is the way she is and God created her that way just as he created me straight.

And dont giveme the bullshit canard about todays society producing gays becasue socialist libtard reasons.... Gays have been around as long as humans have existed. Its a natural phenomena found in many higher social animals as well so its not exclusive to humans[/QUOTE]

To the first bolded... I also disagree with cheating on your spouse. I am currently friends with plenty of people that have cheated and regularly cheat. If we were to teach people in school that cheating on your spouse should be celebrated I would have a HUGE problem with that as well just the same. I have relatives addicted to porn, I treat them just the same as the next relative. I have friends that God and are atheists, I treat them just the same as the next person. I have friends that are gay, I treat them just same as the next person. One of my best friends is Muslim, we love baseball and sports. I have a friend that loves Michigan football, honestly hes probably the hardest to get along with. I have a friend that has been twice convicted of selling cocaine to a police officer, I write him every month and put money on his books every month. To assume just because I completely disagree with ones lifestyle ultimately means I would treat them differently than the next person is very ignorant and telling of your own bias toward certain groups.

To the second bolded... I literally just told a story of my boss treating a gay couple differently and wanting everyone in the office to treat them different because they were gay and Rocket89 seems to think it was okay to treat them different and celebrate them even when I object. But I only object to treating them differently but he called me an asshole... now you tell me treating them differently I would be bigoted. Maybe you guys can hash out what you two think your messaging should be because its quite confusing.

To the third bolded... its amazing people use animals that also lick themselves to justify a human behavior.

Just so we’re clear…

Being gay is comparable to cheating and selling cocaine?

 

[Cackalacky2.0]

You disagreeing with her being gay is the same as you disagreeing with me being straight and your opinion on here extends only to how you would treat her. The fact that you disagree about there being a sexual spectrum and identity versus phsyiology is another thing and Im not going to get into it with you.

If anyone treats her differently specifically becasue she is gay then that is biogted, which she has experienced 1000 fold over her life. Im sure you would agree you know yourself better than anyone yes? Well so does she. The conflict lies in that she knows the way she is and has always been since she was aware of it, There wasnt some decision she made and said oh I cant wait to be gay. TOday is the day...Im going to be gay. So logically she is the way she is and God created her that way just as he created me straight.

And dont giveme the bullshit canard about todays society producing gays becasue socialist libtard reasons.... Gays have been around as long as humans have existed. Its a natural phenomena found in many higher social animals as well so its not exclusive to humans[/QUOTE]

To the first bolded... I also disagree with cheating on your spouse. I am currently friends with plenty of people that have cheated and regularly cheat. If we were to teach people in school that cheating on your spouse should be celebrated I would have a HUGE problem with that as well just the same. I have relatives addicted to porn, I treat them just the same as the next relative. I have friends that God and are atheists, I treat them just the same as the next person. I have friends that are gay, I treat them just same as the next person. One of my best friends is Muslim, we love baseball and sports. I have a friend that loves Michigan football, honestly hes probably the hardest to get along with. I have a friend that has been twice convicted of selling cocaine to a police officer, I write him every month and put money on his books every month. To assume just because I completely disagree with ones lifestyle ultimately means I would treat them differently than the next person is very ignorant and telling of your own bias toward certain groups.

To the second bolded... I literally just told a story of my boss treating a gay couple differently and wanting everyone in the office to treat them different because they were gay and Rocket89 seems to think it was okay to treat them different and celebrate them even when I object. But I only object to treating them differently but he called me an asshole... now you tell me treating them differently I would be bigoted. Maybe you guys can hash out what you two think your messaging should be because its quite confusing.

To the third bolded... its amazing people use animals that also lick themselves to justify a human behavior.

You making the false equivalence of being gay to cheating on your spouse is an epic fail. lol. Woof. Im done here.

 

[TorontoGold]

You making the false equivalence of being gay to cheating on your spouse is an epic fail. lol. Woof. Im done here.

You missed being Muslim or porn

ps. some smooth brains think we're the same person btw, can you drop some engineering knowledge that only you would know? lol

 

[NorthDakota]

Just so we’re clear…

Being gay is comparable to cheating and selling cocaine?

I don't think that is what he is saying. Though there is probably an argument that cheating and acting on homosexual impulses are somewhat comparable?

 

[Blazers46]

You making the false equivalence of being gay to cheating on your spouse is an epic fail. lol. Woof. Im done here.

You miss the point entirely. I am saying people do things and live lifestyles that disagree with all the time and I still treat them just the same. So bye.

 

[Rocket89]

You miss the point entirely. I am saying people do things and live lifestyles that disagree with all the time and I still treat them just the same. So bye.

You’re a cordial bigot!

 

[Cackalacky2.0]

You missed being Muslim or porn

ps. some smooth brains think we're the same person btw, can you drop some engineering knowledge that only you would know? lol

What? Really? LMAO.

 

[Blazers46]

Just so we’re clear…

Being gay is comparable to cheating and selling cocaine?

In the context of "lifestyles I disagree with" yes. Infidelity and being a drug dealer are lifestyles I disagree with just the same as the lifestyle of someone being gay. So yes. I am not saying someone should be jailed for being gay like selling cocaine... but I am sure you will twist it to make your point that I hate people.

 

[Cackalacky2.0]

You’re a cordial bigot!

Imagine not only think that but typing it outloud lol

 

[Blazers46]

You’re a cordial bigot!

I disagree but it would not be the first or last time I assume.

Sidenote: how many names have you called me and how many have I called you? You seem pretty tolerant of differing ideas.

 

[TorontoGold]

What? Really? LMAO.

Yep! The grand conspiracy is that you/Me? created an account in 2016 so that you could continue discussing politics with the CPAC conference here. I can't for the life of me believe it, but here we are.

If there is a way for you to confirm I'm not a former poster without doxxing me completely that would be greattttttttttt

 

[Irish#1]

I think this has run its course.