Jones to N. Illinois

[HereComeTheIrish]

You know what this makes me think of....Travis Thomas switching to D to try and help the team where it was needed. Thomas didn't throw a fit or transfer, he did what he could to help. With all the slagging Thomas has taken on this board, I'll take a player like him who's willing to adapt, than someone like Jones who it seems, has chosen to bail on the team.

Amen, Brother. Amen!!!

 

[Irishtat]

You know what this makes me think of....Travis Thomas switching to D to try and help the team where it was needed. Thomas didn't throw a fit or transfer, he did what he could to help. With all the slagging Thomas has taken on this board, I'll take a player like him who's willing to adapt, than someone like Jones who it seems, has chosen to bail on the team.

exactly...as the saying goes...NEXT

 

[NDgettysburg]

Everyone wants to bash Jones for leaving but look at how Weis used him in the GT game. I would have done the same thing. Weis set him up to fail and now Jones bailed on him. If I was Jones I would have transferred right after the GT game. Forget that "team" crap, only one QB can play and Jones was never gonna see the field again so why not leave! Why should Jones care about ND's QB situation, Weis made his bed and now its time to sleep in it!

That's BS, my friend....TEAM is everything. And don't forget he threw away a free Notre Dame education.

How many THOUSANDS of kids dream of playing for ND and would happily "settle" for just being a student if not gifted enough as an athlete.

Weis didn't set him up for shit...he had to pull the trigger on DJ and try something else. And going from GT to PSU wasn't gonna do his ego or confidence any good. With the talent that kid has, we could have used him damn near anywhere....maybe a Rocket Redux? Seems to me he threw it all away out of spite. Well....have fun playing in obscurity at Northern Illinois!

I despise this kid for the way he's done this...every goddamn reporter in Ann Arbor is gonna ask unneeded questions of anyone associated with the team. Just what they need...another distraction.

 

[johnnd05]

You know what this makes me think of....Travis Thomas switching to D to try and help the team where it was needed. Thomas didn't throw a fit or transfer, he did what he could to help. With all the slagging Thomas has taken on this board, I'll take a player like him who's willing to adapt, than someone like Jones who it seems, has chosen to bail on the team.

100% right.

Let me just say that I am going to SNAP if people start saying that DJ "didn't get a chance to run CW's offense". (I know people around here haven't said this, but I've seen it elsewhere.) Jones got a chance to start, and Weis RE-DESIGNED THE OFFENSE around the skills he had. Demetrius DID get a chance to throw, and he balked. If he were prepared to run our regular offense, there's no question that we would've seen him do that.

He was given a chance, and he dropped the ball (literally - twice!). (Sound like anyone else's first game as a starter?) Now he's looking out for himself by transferring midseason, which is bad enough but understandable. To do it in this particular way, though, is just beyond inexcusable.

Like I said, a class act.

 

[johnnd05]

Everyone wants to bash Jones for leaving but look at how Weis used him in the GT game. I would have done the same thing. Weis set him up to fail and now Jones bailed on him. If I was Jones I would have transferred right after the GT game. Forget that "team" crap, only one QB can play and Jones was never gonna see the field again so why not leave! Why should Jones care about ND's QB situation, Weis made his bed and now its time to sleep in it!

And with this post my worst fears have come true. If my wife weren't yelling at me to get off the computer, you'd all get the treat of watching me snap.

Read the post just below yours, my friend. You are wrong, wrong, wrong.

 

[goldandblue]

We need passionate TEAM players at N.D. so we are better off without him. Just wish he could have worked with the coaches to see if there was somewhere he could play besides q.b.

 

[connor_in]

Everyone wants to bash Jones for leaving but look at how Weis used him in the GT game. I would have done the same thing. Weis set him up to fail and now Jones bailed on him. If I was Jones I would have transferred right after the GT game. Forget that "team" crap, only one QB can play and Jones was never gonna see the field again so why not leave! Why should Jones care about ND's QB situation, Weis made his bed and now its time to sleep in it!

Forget that team crap?....seriously?!?!?!

Only one QB can play? Everyone here has been complaining about th O-Line being shreded...if JC gets hit/sacked the wrong way....BANG, out for the game, month, season...

and finally...to announce to your teammates who you've worked and struggled and sweat with for more than a year, simply by not showing up for the team bus...sad

 

[Bubba]

Man ya'll always want to talk that ND degree crap. First of all, a degree is a degree I dont care if its from IUSB or ND, its all the same thing. I graduated this past spring with a degree from a small school and I had job offers out the ass! I'm only 21, and I'll have my MBA by June and I bet I can get almost any job I want. So, please don't talk that degree crap! I'll admit one thing I was mad when I posted and I'll admit that he shouldn't have bailed on his teammates. But, he doesn't owe Weis shit! Weis didn't give Jones nor Sharpley a fair shake. I really don't care who the QB is as long as we play better but everyone knew Wies couldn't sit Jimmy. Jimmy didn't play good against PSU but he didn't play bad. But, why wasn't Jones given the same opportunity as Jimmy? I bet if Jimmy turns the ball over twice in one half he doesn't get benched and demoted to 3rd string! That's right he's the "LeBron James of football", yea right Jimmy and LeBron shouldn't ever be spoken in the same sentence! But, i do hope Jimmy does well and leads the Irish to victory cause I'm a die hard fan but I really don't agree with how Weis lead on Jones and Sharpley with that fake ass competition!

Maybe he doesn't owe Weis anything, but he does owe his team some kind of notice. I agree Sharpley may not have gotten a fair chance, but Jones started and was given a chance. He fumbled twice in less than 20 plays. I don't care that he's inexperienced. He didn't handle the pressure (literally or figuratively).

So, the least he could have done was be a man and give some notice and explain his reasoning. I don't care that he's leaving. He has a responsibility to do what's best for himself. I hope he can succeed at NIU. But, it seems petty and vengeful to be planning a transfer while leading your team to believe that you're still with them. He let the team down. I don't know why anyone would want him on their team.

If I were hiring an employee, I wouldn't even consider someone who was willing to leave their current job without giving notice. You can't be sure they won't do it to you as well.

Anyway, this team will be willing to move on without him.

 

[NDgettysburg]

Man ya'll always want to talk that ND degree crap.

Well, that's as far as I need to read....first it was "Forget that team crap", now this. I would never want you on any time I was on regardless of how talented you might be. You sound like a good sports agent in the making.

 

[NDgettysburg]

Jimmy didn't play good against PSU but he didn't play bad.

MBA, you say, huh?

But, why wasn't Jones given the same opportunity as Jimmy? I bet if Jimmy turns the ball over twice in one half he doesn't get benched and demoted to 3rd string!

Uh-oh, I feel a "it's because he's black" theory about to hatch....

 

[Jason Pham]

Man ya'll always want to talk that ND degree crap. First of all, a degree is a degree I dont care if its from IUSB or ND, its all the same thing.

Do you think those with the intellect or diligence to be admitted into the University of Notre Dame is going to fork over $180,000 for an education if they could have gotten 'the same crap' elsewhere for cheaper ? That's just a ridiculous statement to me, the numbers back it up.

The average lifetime income of an ND graduate sits right above $4 million. The average starting salary of a ND law graduate in a private firm sits around $115,000 with a 100% employment rate 6 months out of school.

Football is one thing, I don't think, given the right talent, the degree is something most athletes need to worry about as much as the average student but let's not try to say things we can't take back here.

 

[big daddy]

Hey Jones wanted to play QB in college. It didin't work out at ND and now he will fulfil his dreams elsewhere. We should all wish him well and lets move on to victory against Michigan!

 

[goldandblue]

I'll admit one thing I was mad when I posted and I'll admit that he shouldn't have bailed on his teammates. But, he doesn't owe Weis shit! Weis didn't give Jones nor Sharpley a fair shake. I really don't care who the QB is as long as we play better but everyone knew Wies couldn't sit Jimmy. Jimmy didn't play good against PSU but he didn't play bad. But, why wasn't Jones given the same opportunity as Jimmy? I bet if Jimmy turns the ball over twice in one half he doesn't get benched and demoted to 3rd string! That's right he's the "LeBron James of football", yea right Jimmy and LeBron shouldn't ever be spoken in the same sentence! But, i do hope Jimmy does well and leads the Irish to victory cause I'm a die hard fan but I really don't agree with how Weis lead on Jones and Sharpley with that fake ass competition!

First of all, football is not about being fair. It's about putting the player on the field who gives you the best opportunity to win.

Second, You can't base Jones' performance on only the two turnovers. He made no progress in the first half. Sharpley and Clausen have both shown more poise in the pocket than Jones ever thought about having. So therefore if anyone should be upset, it should be Sharpley. Everyone in the country knows they both looked better than Jones did. Sharpley was still facing the 1st team D so I don't want to hear none of that either.

 

[johnnd05]

What I was going to say has basically been said. I never made it about academics - I have a graduate degree from ND and an undergrad degree from a much "worse" school, and I was happy at both.

As to DJ not being given a fair shot: I've said why I think that's an absurd claim. He had happy feet and a deer in the headlights look to go with two fumbles in the first half. Sharpley and Clausen both look tons better than he did out there. Plus, Weis made it clear that DJ's going to the bench wasn't just about what happened against GT: Clausen was supposed to be the starter until his surgery, and would've started if he'd been fully recovered. The fact that DJ played so badly - in what was, as I pointed out, a tremendous opportunity for him given the lengths Weis went to to work the offense around his skill set - was only part of the story.

I'd say I wish the kid luck, but first I wish he'd get his sh-t together. He let a lot of people down today.

 

[NDgettysburg]

Football is one thing, I don't think, given the right talent, the degree is something most athletes need to worry about as much as the average student but let's not try to say things we can't take back here.

Judging by recent years, it's sad to say that, yeah, I think football players indeed have as much as the average student to worry about. ND isn't sending many to the pros these days. Probably 90% of the team will never play in the NFL, therefore they better hit them books and take it very seriously.

 

[Junkhead]

First Frazier, and now Jones? Two transfers in no time. Oh well. At least Frazier had some class. Jones saw the writing on the wall, he was going to get no PT at QB from now on. I hope he finds what he's looking for, but he obviously wasn't too much of a team guy if he bailed that quick.

 

[IrishGuard93]

He won't be missed....Du Lac

 

[dudexcore]

They can fucking have him, he was a piece of shit anyway. talented athlete, cannot throw the ball. total opposite of wut charlie needs. good bye and good riddance. thank you for dumping this load on us hours prior to the game.

yikes.... a bit harsh, eh?

 

[Epitome]

Johnnd05 said it best at 19 your old enough to fight for our country. Let me tell you that's the truth, I have served with some very courageous young men and women in some of the most adverse situations. These soldiers, sailors, airmen and marines use words like integrity, service before self, excellence, duty, honor and country to get them through each day. So to say this kid is only 19 and we should cut him some slack because he is under pressure is bogus. You want to talk about pressure, every time I convoyed through the streets of Bagdad my life was in the hands of 19 year old men and women.

WHAT THIS KID DID IS NOT GOING TO HAVE ANY REVELANCE NEXT WEEK TO ANY OF US. BUT HIS LACK OF INTEGRITY WILL STAY WITH HIM HIS ENTIRE LIFE.

 

[johnnd05]

yikes.... a bit harsh, eh?

Yes, slightly ... sheesh.

 

[KamaraPolice]

I don't condone bailing on the team and it was a definite mistake. But honestly, I think it works out for the better for both parties. We aren't going to run the spread, sharpley is the better backup, a great qb comes in next year if (i dont want to say it) anything happens to clausen. And another plus? It opens the door for another 5th year senior who will provide the leadership the team will need.

 

[Irishtat]

Johnnd05 said it best at 19 your old enough to fight for our country. Let me tell you that's the truth, I have served with some very courageous young men and women in some of the most adverse situations. These soldiers, sailors, airmen and marines use words like integrity, service before self, excellence, duty, honor and country to get them through each day. So to say this kid is only 19 and we should cut him some slack because he is under pressure is bogus. You want to talk about pressure, every time I convoyed through the streets of Bagdad my life was in the hands of 19 year old men and women.

WHAT THIS KID DID IS NOT GOING TO HAVE ANY REVELANCE NEXT WEEK TO ANY OF US. BUT HIS LACK OF INTEGRITY WILL STAY WITH HIM HIS ENTIRE LIFE.

Well put. This topic has had some good stuff! I'm waiting however, to hear what CW has to say once this weekend passes. I smell pre-game deflection in order to avoid further distraction, and inside the team that is the best thing. I would be shocked if he didn't foresee this happening (the entire staff too). Most everyone I know saw it clear as day after JC was named the starter...I was even told during the Spring that DD made a big point about strictly being a QB and it was addressed with CW etc. I stand by my claim that he's a kid, as I once too transferred from a program in another sport at 19, and have a very close friend that didn’t transfer just switched from QB to SS (for Ty nonetheless), so I know the territory, although my credentials are irrelevant. There's a huge difference between the military and collegiate athletics from a number of standpoints, and thank God for that. I'm waiting to hear the whole story though (if it’s ever told) and very true that the relevance by then will be lacking. Like I stated earlier, horrible initial appearance and timing…

I’m ready for the next topic. [How about what number of QB’s to recruit per class…per system…etc.]

Go Irish, Beat Michigan!

 

[johnnd05]

Well put. This topic has had some good stuff! I'm waiting however, to hear what CW has to say once this weekend passes. I smell pre-game deflection in order to avoid further distraction, and inside the team that is the best thing. I would be shocked if he didn't foresee this happening (the entire staff too). Most everyone I know saw it clear as day after JC was named the starter...I was even told during the Spring that DD made a big point about strictly being a QB and it was addressed with CW etc. I stand by my claim that he's a kid, as I once too transferred from a program in another sport at 19, and have a very close friend that didn’t transfer just switched from QB to SS (for Ty nonetheless), so I know the territory, although my credentials are irrelevant. There's a huge difference between the military and collegiate athletics from a number of standpoints, and thank God for that. I'm waiting to hear the whole story though (if it’s ever told) and very true that the relevance by then will be lacking. Like I stated earlier, horrible initial appearance and timing…

I’m ready for the next topic. [How about what number of QB’s to recruit per class…per system…etc.]

Go Irish, Beat Michigan!

Whether Weis and the staff "foresaw this happening" is irrelevant. If Jones had told them what he was up to, then he wouldn't have been signed up for yesterday's team bus, nor would he have been practicing with the team on Thursday when he was apparently already enrolled at NIU. Unless there's something MAJOR I'm missing here, he dicked them over, plain and simple.

 

[Master Guns]

Other boards are buzzing about D. Jones transferring to N. Ill.

Hope he does well at NIU because he just did not have what it takes to play QB at this level. He was a wreck against GT but I'm sure he good have moved to flanker or wide reciever. I hope he left on good terms.

 

[cornbread]

The way Charlie responded to the question I would go out on a limb and say he did not leave on good terms. I hope the young man does well, but if giving up is best for him it will be a long life.

 

[GoshenGipper]

Hope he does well at NIU because he just did not have what it takes to play QB at this level. He was a wreck against GT but I'm sure he good have moved to flanker or wide reciever. I hope he left on good terms.

From all accounts I've heard he didn't. He went to practice all week even though he already secretly enrolled at NIU, and then when it came time to board the bus he just didn't show up.

 

[SillyIrish]

I cant believe he would crap on his team like this cause he was beat out for the starting spot. I guess this is why he didn't play well in his start, he saw things not going his way and he QUIT.

 

[GoshenGipper]

The fact that he's going to transfer doesn't really suprise me too much, because if I remember right Jason Pham posted a thread back in the spring about his run in with DD and his friends at a party. Apparently DD was already moping around back then and talking about wanting to leave. And I also remember hearing rumors about him wanting to join Cutcliffe at Tennessee since he was sitting 3rd on the depth chart at that time behind Clausen and Sharpley.

 

[Timugen]

This may be oversimplifying things a bit, but if this is the type of person/player that Jones is then we don't want him or need him.

Thank you for freeing up a scholarship DD.

 

[NDgettysburg]

ESPN radio sez he transferred to GEORGIA TECH!