'17 MD SDE Joshua Paschal (Kentucky Verbal)

[Veritate Duce Progredi]

not sure, he has some academic stuff to clean up anyways...but loy mentioned he sees him ending up at ND unless he takes too long and loses his spot...or obviously doesn't get the academics straightened out

To whom will he lose a spot? Are we expecting some currently committed prospects to reconsider ND? I haven't seen a large number of DEs showing interest.

 

[PANDFAN]

To whom will he lose a spot? Are we expecting some currently committed prospects to reconsider ND? I haven't seen a large number of DEs showing interest.

Whittaker said we are his #1

echoles-but likely stays out west

Daley

 

[NDVirginia19]

No offense to Whittaker or Daley, but it would suck to lose someone as talented as Paschal because we filled up with them

 

[GBdomer]

I have a very difficult time seeing Daley in this class. Sounds like his visit is being pushed back till the fall. Amari Carter is also in his ear about end so that's great to here about carter

 

[IrishFanJMercy]

Is he our best shot to finish the DE class out?

 

[koonja]

Is he our best shot to finish the DE class out?

I hope not. Committed to the hometown Terps, and has the opportunity to play for a 3-0 DJ Durkin versus a 1-2 BVG. I don't see him flipping.

 

[Luckylucci]

Is he our best shot to finish the DE class out?

Don't know. He had work in the classroom to do and I have not seen an update on whether he is making the necessary strides or not.

 

[Luckylucci]

I hope not. Committed to the hometown Terps, and has the opportunity to play for a 3-0 DJ Durkin versus a 1-2 BVG. I don't see him flipping.

Haha, a little late to this party, I had not noticed that.

 

[Domina Nostra]

I hope not. Committed to the hometown Terps, and has the opportunity to play for a 3-0 DJ Durkin versus a 1-2 BVG. I don't see him flipping.

Please, the Terps have played Howard, FIU, and UCF.

And there is a 0% chance BVG is here next year.

 

[Big23Head]

When did he commit to Maryland? I haven't seen anything. He visited OU the weekend before last I thought.

 

[Ricochet]

He's uncommitted, I think he's thinking of Joshua Kaindoh.

 

[koonja]

When did he commit to Maryland? I haven't seen anything. He visited OU the weekend before last I thought.

He's uncommitted, I think he's thinking of Joshua Kaindoh.

Yes, my fault.

 

[irishff1014]

Per loy if he can do the work in the classroom it'll be up to kelly if that take him due to numbers getting tight.

 

[zelezo vlk]

Hard pass. The team doesn't need defensive talent.

 

[Luckylucci]

The staff is going to have to start making some tough decisions in regards to roster management, along the DL. We have a lot of eligibility on the roster. Including the 4 guys that are committed this cycle, we have 14 players that have, 2 or more years of eligibility. That's quite a lot of bodies. The decision will be, do we stick with these guys for the duration (4, max 5 years) or do we try and bring in some new blood to revive this DL. Also, the breadth or diversity of player isn't very good. We have only 2 guys that would be considered true "edge rushers", Okwara and D. Hayes in that group. However, we have loads of big body DT's. That will need to be balanced out as well.

 

[zelezo vlk]

Does Paschal have scheme flexibility? I'm sure that a new DC will cause a few guys to transfer, due to not being a fit for the new scheme.

 

[GoIrish41]

The staff is going to have to start making some tough decisions in regards to roster management, along the DL. We have a lot of eligibility on the roster. Including the 4 guys that are committed this cycle, we have 14 players that have, 2 or more years of eligibility. That's quite a lot of bodies. The decision will be, do we stick with these guys for the duration (4, max 5 years) or do we try and bring in some new blood to revive this DL. Also, the breadth or diversity of player isn't very good. We have only 2 guys that would be considered true "edge rushers", Okwara and D. Hayes in that group. However, we have loads of big body DT's. That will need to be balanced out as well.

Move Tillery to OL, perhaps. That is where he was projected out of high school if I recall.

 

[IrishLax]

The staff is going to have to start making some tough decisions in regards to roster management, along the DL. We have a lot of eligibility on the roster. Including the 4 guys that are committed this cycle, we have 14 players that have, 2 or more years of eligibility. That's quite a lot of bodies. The decision will be, do we stick with these guys for the duration (4, max 5 years) or do we try and bring in some new blood to revive this DL. Also, the breadth or diversity of player isn't very good. We have only 2 guys that would be considered true "edge rushers", Okwara and D. Hayes in that group. However, we have loads of big body DT's. That will need to be balanced out as well.

We also have the game whose name I can't spell for an edge rusher.

 

[Luckylucci]

We also have the game whose name I can't spell for an edge rusher.

Good call Ade O. is one of the 14 I counted but spaced adding him to Okwara and Hayes grouping. Good catch. Still seems unbalanced, though.

 

[zelezo vlk]

Kareem?

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[Luckylucci]

Move Tillery to OL, perhaps. That is where he was projected out of high school if I recall.

That wouldn't be my first move. I'd evaluate guys like Tiassum, MDT, Mokwuah, etc. and see if you truly believe those guys will be contributors to this team at any point. I'm not saying that I know the answer, its just that there is a log jam of players, that as of now, haven't had much contribution to the team. It's got to be one or the other. Get them to be productive or get new guys in that will be. You can add Hayes, Bonner, and Taylor to that list.

FWIW, It isn't my expectation that they should be big time contributors, at this time. Giving guys time to develop is important but with a position group that is sorely underperforming and a defense that is as a whole. This is the one position group that actually has a lot of numbers, but still not much performance. Something needs to give.

 

[Sherm Sticky]

The staff is going to have to start making some tough decisions in regards to roster management, along the DL. We have a lot of eligibility on the roster. Including the 4 guys that are committed this cycle, we have 14 players that have, 2 or more years of eligibility. That's quite a lot of bodies. The decision will be, do we stick with these guys for the duration (4, max 5 years) or do we try and bring in some new blood to revive this DL. Also, the breadth or diversity of player isn't very good. We have only 2 guys that would be considered true "edge rushers", Okwara and D. Hayes in that group. However, we have loads of big body DT's. That will need to be balanced out as well.

We can pull and SEC and cut players like Mokwuah and Tiassium.


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[Luckylucci]

We can pull and SEC and cut players like Mokwuah and Tiassium.


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Not really the route I'd choose to go either, but maybe starting to make tough decisions on 5th years is the easiest route.

 

[zelezo vlk]

That wouldn't be my first move. I'd evaluate guys like Tiassum, MDT, Mokwuah, etc. and see if you truly believe those guys will be contributors to this team at any point. I'm not saying that I know the answer, its just that there is a log jam of players, that as of now, haven't had much contribution to the team. It's got to be one or the other. Get them to be productive or get new guys in that will be. You can add Hayes, Bonner, and Taylor to that list.

FWIW, It isn't my expectation that they should be big time contributors, at this time. Giving guys time to develop is important but with a position group that is sorely underperforming and a defense that is as a whole. This is the one position group that actually has a lot of numbers, but still not much performance. Something needs to give.

We can pull and SEC and cut players like Mokwuah and Tiassium.


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Funny enough, Mike Frank saying that he would start Mokwuah vs Syracuse, because he truly believes that Pete wants to be a good player. Tiassum? I don't know. But MDT was getting some buzz as a guy who would earn snaps, before he got injured. Nobody was claiming that he'd be the next Sheldon Day, but he was going to play.

I think that what happens with Taylor, Tiassum, Bonner etc will be dictated by the DC hire at the end of the year. Some guys may be okay if they never play a down and others might transfer out if they see the writing on the wall.

 

[Luckylucci]

Funny enough, Mike Frank saying that he would start Mokwuah vs Syracuse, because he truly believes that Pete wants to be a good player. Tiassum? I don't know. But MDT was getting some buzz as a guy who would earn snaps, before he got injured. Nobody was claiming that he'd be the next Sheldon Day, but he was going to play.

I think that what happens with Taylor, Tiassum, Bonner etc will be dictated by the DC hire at the end of the year. Some guys may be okay if they never play a down and others might transfer out if they see the writing on the wall.

Just to be clear, I wasn't making an indictment on any single player. The roster management as a whole. I thought Mok showed some flashes against Nevada. Maybe Mike is right.

That's where my point comes in, we need to start to find out what we have with these guys. Add Hayes and Bonner to that list as well. Just a lot of bodies that we need to figure out what we have.

 

[Sherm Sticky]

Not really the route I'd choose to go either, but maybe starting to make tough decisions on 5th years is the easiest route.

I wasn't being serious. This is one of the reasons I love Notre Dame is they don't push players out.


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[bluengold4732]

I have a question on 5th years...we normally decide before spring camp who to ask back right? Could kelly keep all 5th year players through spring and then invite certain ones back for the start of fall camp? For example this year we only have 9 players out of eligibility at the end of the year which leaves us with 74-75 players...say we sign a class of 25 and 5 are EE's can we keep guys like Montelus, Matuska, and others through spring and then see where we stand on transfers, medicals, and suspensions before we decide to let them walk or use graduate transfers somewhere else? I ask because every year we don't ask X number of 5th year guys back and end up a few short of the 85 limit.

 

[PANDFAN]

I have a question on 5th years...we normally decide before spring camp who to ask back right? Could kelly keep all 5th year players through spring and then invite certain ones back for the start of fall camp? For example this year we only have 9 players out of eligibility at the end of the year which leaves us with 74-75 players...say we sign a class of 25 and 5 are EE's can we keep guys like Montelus, Matuska, and others through spring and then see where we stand on transfers, medicals, and suspensions before we decide to let them walk or use graduate transfers somewhere else? I ask because every year we don't ask X number of 5th year guys back and end up a few short of the 85 limit.

you can but then you limit those who don't get asked back, now have to scramble to find a home very quickly-

 

[bluengold4732]

That's what I figured...it would put those guys in a predicament if there ended up being a numbers crunch at fall camp.

 

[PANDFAN]

That's what I figured...it would put those guys in a predicament if there ended up being a numbers crunch at fall camp.

now we did do it w/ chase hounshall (sp?) but he knew from the get go that he could be out...and luckily he was able to land at posu and hasn't recorded a catch yet