[NBA] vBook: Cavaliers vs Warriors

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*Bet vbucks*

NBA Finals

Cleveland at Golden State
Game 1 - Series 0-0

8:00 PM ET, June 5, 2016
Oracle Arena
Oakland, CA
Coverage: ABC

Favorite: Warriors -6.5
Over/Under: 208.5
Moneylines: Cavaliers +210 Warriors -260

Using scoresandodds.com

Good Betting and Good Luck!
 

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Well, since I have (as BGIF might say) an embarrassment of v-riches, through no effort or design or intention of my own, I guess that I'll bet.

No particular rhyme, reason or rationale.

I'm mulling possible (constructive) ways to disperse and dispense with my v-larder; my v-stash.

Any and all suggestions entertained. Pure greed will not be rewarded ... unless laughter, coffee spewing or absolute disgust are involved.
 

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Should I ever hear another dumb ass comparison to MJ about Lebron I may just jump off the NBA watch all together.
 

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From a statistcal, betting standpoint: without doing research, i think it is odd/extremely rare that a favorite covers by 27 points; yet the total goes under by more than 20. Typically big, favorite covers imply the over.

This could lean toward some over generous lines in Cleveland - we'll see. The public has been heavy on GSW all year.
 
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Kevin Love was a 25 and 10 guy, Kyrie Irving is a top 15 player easily, possibly top 10. Thompson is a double double. No excuse LeBron, be great and win.
 

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[NBA] vBook: Cavaliers vs Warriors

Kyrie Irving is a top 15 player easily, possibly top 10.



Curry, Westbrook, Durant, Leonard, Lillard, Paul, George, Harden, Melo, Lebron, Boogie, Davis are clearly above KI.


There's a cluster of guys after that are all debatable. Klay, Green, Aldridge, Butler, Irving, Griffin, Lowry, Derozan, KAT, Wall, etc.

This disregards the older players like Wade, Dirk, etc.

I'd be comfortable putting him in the top 15-20 range, but not top 10.
 
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Curry, Westbrook, Durant, Leonard, Lillard, Paul, George, Harden, Melo, Lebron, Boogie, Davis are clearly above KI.


There's a cluster of guys after that are all debatable. Klay, Green, Aldridge, Butler, Irving, Griffin, Lowry, Derozan, KAT, Wall, etc.

This disregards the older players like Wade, Dirk, etc.

I'd be comfortable putting him in the top 15-20 range, but not top 10.

Curry, Westbrook, Durant, Davis, Harden, Chris Paul, Kawai Leonard, and Lebron I'll give you, no debate.

Boogie (IDK who that is), Melo, Paul George - very debatable IMO. I'll definitely take Irving over Melo right now.
 
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Actually i'll give you Paul George ahead of Iriving. I think that's true.
 

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Kevin Love was a 25 and 10 guy, Kyrie Irving is a top 15 player easily, possibly top 10. Thompson is a double double. No excuse LeBron, be great and win.

I don't think Kyrie is a top 15 player, he has top 15 potential but he currently is not in that group.

Top NBA Players - In no order
Stephen Curry
Lebron James
Kevin Durant
Kawhi Leonard
Anthony Davis
Russell Westbrook
DeMarcus Cousins
Paul George
Klay Thompson
James Harden
Damien Lillard
LaMarcus Aldridge
Draymond Green
Andre Drummond
Karl Anthony Towns

The above are by far better then Kyrie. Below are questionable but I wouldn't hesitate in taking them before Kyrie either.

Kemba Walker
Jimmy Butler
Blake Griffin
Andrew Wiggins
John Wall
Gordon Hayward
DeMar DeRozan
Kyle Lowry
Nikola Vucevic
 

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I don't think Kyrie is a top 15 player, he has top 15 potential but he currently is not in that group.

Top NBA Players - In no order
Stephen Curry
Lebron James
Kevin Durant
Kawhi Leonard
Anthony Davis
Russell Westbrook
DeMarcus Cousins
Paul George
Klay Thompson
James Harden
Damien Lillard
LaMarcus Aldridge
Draymond Green
Andre Drummond
Karl Anthony Towns

The above are by far better then Kyrie. Below are questionable but I wouldn't hesitate in taking them before Kyrie either.

Kemba Walker
Jimmy Butler
Blake Griffin
Andrew Wiggins
John Wall
Gordon Hayward
DeMar DeRozan
Kyle Lowry
Nikola Vucevic

Did you purposely leave Melo off the list? He is better than Kyrie as well.
 

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Curry, Westbrook, Durant, Davis, Harden, Chris Paul, Kawai Leonard, and Lebron I'll give you, no debate.

Boogie (IDK who that is), Melo, Paul George - very debatable IMO. I'll definitely take Irving over Melo right now.

You're kidding me.

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Did you purposely leave Melo off the list? He is better than Kyrie as well.

All the players I listed played defense for at least one possession in their careers. Melo = zero defense... ever!
 

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Curry, Westbrook, Durant, Davis, Harden, Chris Paul, Kawai Leonard, and Lebron I'll give you, no debate.

Boogie (IDK who that is), Melo, Paul George - very debatable IMO. I'll definitely take Irving over Melo right now.

You smoking that funny stuff again? PG13 is a far better player than Irving, no debate. Ask any GM if they had to start a team and could only pick PG13 or Irving, you might get one or two to say Irving, but the consensus is PG13. Irving hasn't even learned how to spell defense let alone play it.
 
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koonja

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You smoking that funny stuff again? PG13 is a far better player than Irving, no debate. Ask any GM if they had to start a team and could only pick PG13 or Irving, you might get one or two to say Irving, but the consensus is PG13. Irving hasn't even learned how to spell defense let alone play it.

Same stuff that has you misreading, from like 2 posts above:

"Actually i'll give you Paul George ahead of Iriving. I think that's true."
 

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Same stuff that has you misreading, from like 2 posts above:

"Actually i'll give you Paul George ahead of Iriving. I think that's true."

Evidently, as I missed that completely! lol

My humble apologies my friend.
 

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All the players I listed played defense for at least one possession in their careers. Melo = zero defense... ever!

Melo is no all-NBA defender but his defense has improved a lot. For example, he was top 5 in the league last year in defending 3s. It's hard for me to take your list seriously when you claim Melo is off the list because of defense but James "I will step to the side if you drive at me" Harden is on it.
 
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