'08 IN OL Braxston Cave (Signed LOI to ND)

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Braxton played very well at the AAA Jr. Combine, and he said he was one of the strongest guys there. His dad used to be a body builder and he has helped Braxton in his strength training while growing up. Braxton will be a 3rd year starter at Center this year, and while he said he is more used to offense, he would rather play DT. He is being recruited by D1 programs at both positions because of his foot speed.

Braxton doesn't plan on announcing untill after his Sr. season, so that should be around Thanksgiving at the earliest, and he plans to go to camps at ND, Iowa, and Florida this summer. FYI he grew up as a ND fan and reports a 3.0 GPA.

Braxton's top three factors in deciding his school will be:

1. The core values of the school and football program

2. Academics

3. Depth chart/possible PT
 
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sounds like this guy will be a national recruit. I think it certainly helps that he will camp at ND, and ND needs all the DT help it can get. Let's hope Charlie gets the ball rolling w/ some defensive recruits for next year once Brown gets here.
 

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I'll definetly will inform you guys on the games this coming year, hell I live right down the street form Penn HS. I'm excited I'll actually get to see a national recruit play in high school again. Its been awhile, I saw Rhema McKnight in HS when I lived in Cali.
 

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Braxston Cave Recruited By Big Boys

A kid who may someday play in the NFL is now just a junior at Penn High School. After a national workout recently in San Antonio, TX, Braxton Cave made what everybody knew official. He's a big-time recruit with unbelievable potential. He's the type of kid that has National Champ Florida and Notre Dame battling for him. Braxston Cave is 6'4" 295 pounds. Everybody in the Big 10 is looking at him. He has regular contact with former Notre Dame Assistant Coach Greg Mattison who's now the Defensive Coordinator at Florida. And he's enjoyed going to Notre Dame Stadium and getting to know Charlie Weis. The Indiana All-Stater has grown up a Notre Dame fan, but he's going to make an educated decision about his future. He's visited with Iowa during the Purdue game and Michigan when they played Vanderbilt. Braxton's dad used to be a bodybuilder so pumping iron and watching what he eats is part of his lifestyle. He runs a 5.01 40 and is trying to get faster. He bench presses over 400 pounds and is trying to get stronger. He's grown up under the shadow of the Golden Dome, but you know the other schools are going to use all of their strengths to get his muscle.
 
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This is the kind of player we need. He looks like a monster.
 

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ND better be careful. Greg Mattison's son Bryan Mattison played on the DL at Penn before he went on to Iowa. Mattison has a lot of connections at Penn, and you know Urban would love to take another DL from under Charlie's nose.
 

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Well, since we don't play Florida next year (at least not in the regular season), I hope we win this one.
 

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Braxton played very well at the AAA Jr. Combine, and he said he was one of the strongest guys there. His dad used to be a body builder and he has helped Braxton in his strength training while growing up. Braxton will be a 3rd year starter at Center this year, and while he said he is more used to offense, he would rather play DT. He is being recruited by D1 programs at both positions because of his foot speed.

Braxton doesn't plan on announcing untill after his Sr. season, so that should be around Thanksgiving at the earliest, and he plans to go to camps at ND, Iowa, and Florida this summer. FYI he grew up as a ND fan and reports a 3.0 GPA.

Braxton's top three factors in deciding his school will be:

1. The core values of the school and football program

2. Academics

3. Depth chart/possible PT


Cave's only Official thus far is from IU who wants him to play center. Since CB is listed as his recruiter, ND obviously wants him to play DT. If that's where the kid really wants to plays, and considering the fact that Urban has enough 5 star DT's already in tow that Cave would probably never get to play there until his senior year, does that give ND the advantage. His size and strength are potential "Wilfork" like and seems prototypical for the 3-4. It's actually kind of hard to believe that he has not been offered yet. After this year's shenanigans, it seems that it would be unacceptable to CW to lose this local kid to Meyer.
 

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If that's where the kid really wants to plays, and considering the fact that Urban has enough 5 star DT's already in tow that Cave would probably never get to play there until his senior year, does that give ND the advantage.


Unfortunately, I've stopped believing this idea. With the RBs that USC can recruit, and the DLs that Florida and LSU have been getting, I'm not sure that it really helps. It all comes down to personality. Will he like the coaches?
 
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Hey Irish93, on another subject, since you are from Philly, do you know anything about Nick Moody, he's a Junior LB for Roman Catholic, my High School alma mater. I am trying to find out if he is Adrien Moody's kid. Adrien was one of my classmates, and a great all around athlete, but I have not been able to get in touch with him.
 

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Hey Irish93, on another subject, since you are from Philly, do you know anything about Nick Moody, he's a Junior LB for Roman Catholic, my High School alma mater. I am trying to find out if he is Adrien Moody's kid. Adrien was one of my classmates, and a great all around athlete, but I have not been able to get in touch with him.

No idea. I'm not originally from Philly, so I'm not really into the high school sports scene around here. One of my neighbors played high school ball for Charlie back in the day (if that counts for anything).
 

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...Since CB is listed as his recruiter, ND obviously wants him to play DT. ...

Is ND recruiting by position coach now or still by territory? Isn't Brown covering the Midwest?

Last year Vaas had Nuss an OL, Latina had a Paskorz and Ragone neither one an OL, Haywood had Romine, Lewis had Neal. There were a couple of Position Coaches that recruited a prospect at their position but I belive most were territorial.
 
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Is ND recruiting by position coach now or still by territory? Isn't Brown covering the Midwest?

Last year Vaas had Nuss an OL, Latina had a Paskorz and Ragone neither one an OL, Haywood had Romine, Lewis had Neal. There were a couple of Position Coaches that recruited a prospect at their position but I belive most were territorial.

Even with geographic territories, the position coaches have been very involved in the recruitment of players for the positions they coach. The effort is a cooridnated team approach. Geographic guy does a portion of the footwork, position coach helps, and Charlie is the closer.
 
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Is ND recruiting by position coach now or still by territory? Isn't Brown covering the Midwest?

Last year Vaas had Nuss an OL, Latina had a Paskorz and Ragone neither one an OL, Haywood had Romine, Lewis had Neal. There were a couple of Position Coaches that recruited a prospect at their position but I belive most were territorial.

I was under the impression that they kind of did a "mixture" type of recruting, where the coaches might be affiliated with a specific area, but then also sometimes dealt with players of their respective position who were outside of their area (i.e. Latina working on the recruitment of Wenger and Young in Florida). Maybe that will change now, though.
 

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Even with geographic territories, the position coaches have been very involved in the recruitment of players for the positions they coach. The effort is a cooridnated team approach. Geographic guy does a portion of the footwork, position coach helps, and Charlie is the closer.

and ShivaIrish


I agree. I'm familiar with the "team" approach but my response wasn't meant to be a treatise on recruiting management. It was in response to a specific statement (which was quoted in my post) about a recruit playing a specific position because a defensive coach, CB, was listed as his recruiter.

...Since CB is listed as his recruiter, ND obviously wants him to play DT. ...


I cited several examples where primary recruiters weren't designated by position but rather by territory as I believe is the case with Cave. Perhaps I should have followed the original poster's logic and noted, "Clausen and Dever obviously must be playing Special Teams and/or LB then as Polian was "listed" as their recruiter".
 

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BGIF- My apologies for not answering your post earlier. Since all I saw most of this week on this board was monotonous political discourse, I have not been paying much attention to IE. Anyway, your first post on Cave was absolutely correct. It was a mistake on my part to assume that Cave was being recruited for DT merely because Corwin Brown was recruiting him. This may eventually turn out to be the case, but to make that assumption based on what is known was incorrect. I try to avoid making assumptions because they are just as likely to be wrong as to be right. Thanks for pointing that out.

At the present time, Brown is listed as the primary recruiter for Cave, and 3 additional recruits, all from Chicago. Two of the Chicago kids are Defensive players, the third one is a WR. I do believe that CB will become the primary recruiter, even if he is not listed that way, for the elite defensive recruits that the Irish go after. For example, Ianello is listed as the primary for Steven Filer, but it would seem likely that CB is going to be assigned the task of trying to close the deal on a Chicago LB. Cave is not in Filer’s class from a ratings standpoint, but at DT he could eventually play a critical role in the 3-4, and from the standpoint of Cave’s hometown and likely strongest rival (Florida) in trying to recruit him, I have to believe that CW is going to pull out all the stops to try to convince Cave to be Irish. Besides, without anything at all to corroborate it, I think we would all like to believe that having an aggressive young DC like Corwin Brown might have made a difference, hopefully in at least one case, in the recruiting last year of elite defensive recruits like Martin, Tez, Lorenzo Edwards, and Donald. I should point out that starting in the third sentence of this paragraph, with “I do believe”, that I am stating my opinion only, and since it was Mike Farrell’s opinion that on NSD the Irish were likely to lose Ian Williams if anybody, you are not going to get too far on opinions only. Only time will tell.
 

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No apology needed.

I don't think the primary recruiter for Cave is significant. He can physically walk on campus anytime he choses from where he lives. He undoubtedly knows his way around the ND campus better than Corwin does right now. Powlus made a comment to that effect to Cave on Junior Day. Weis and Brown spoke with him on JD and Weis was stopping by Cave's high school the following week.

I'm also not so sure that Cave is a lock for DL. When Sullivan finishes the '07 season, Wenger will be the only center on the team. Latina may be an important figure here.
 

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I can see Brown quite involved in Filer's recruiting but people seem to have suddenly forgotten that Ianello has covered that area for many years and covered it well. Ianello is consistently recognized as one of the best recruiters in the college football. Brown has 3 years of college coaching experience and has been out of it for 3 years. Ianello didn't play football in the Chicago Public School League and may not know the coaches that were there when Brown played 15 years ago but he knows all of the today. Having been in pro football and not living in the area Brown has a lot of catching up to do to establish relationships and a base Ianello has established over a decade.

ND fans welcomed anyone to replace Minter but to 18 year old kids who is Corwin Brown? How many of their parents will ask the same question. He's not a household name.

He's in his first DC gig. Been out of college ball since the kids he is now recruiting were in junior high. And he has much to learn about recruiting while he's getting OJT as a DC and learning his fellow coaches at ND, the players, and his way around campus.
 

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I'm also not so sure that Cave is a lock for DL. When Sullivan finishes the '07 season, Wenger will be the only center on the team. Latina may be an important figure here.

Don't forget that Mike Golic is a center as well, and I would think that he would be a very possible option for ND this recruiting year.
 
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I think this is a good caliber of kid that could really help either the O or D line interior
 

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Don't forget that Mike Golic is a center as well, and I would think that he would be a very possible option for ND this recruiting year.

I didn't forget. At 295 with a 400 BP Cave is already Div 1 size and strength. Golic is 260 and has to add 40 pounds to play. He also has a lot of strength training to go.

ND may have the luxury to play Cave to at DL but my point was Cave isn't a lock to play DL.
 

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According to Rivals, Braxton Cave has finally received his Official Offer from ND. No confirmation of this on Scout or B&G though, but this had to be just a matter of timing. The question is if he accepts the offer, will he be fighting Golic for the Center position, or will he be a DT on CB's 3-4 scheme.
 

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The Cave offer seems to be solid info. Braxton received the offer yesterday from CW, with 2 confirming sources.
 

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Cave has just been confirmed by Scout/Irish Eyes and B&G as being an ND offer. Is there a MOD available to change his tag to Official Offer here?
 

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I didn't forget. At 295 with a 400 BP Cave is already Div 1 size and strength. Golic is 260 and has to add 40 pounds to play. He also has a lot of strength training to go.

ND may have the luxury to play Cave to at DL but my point was Cave isn't a lock to play DL.


Cave's comments after receiving the offer seem to indicate that ND is recruiting him to play in the interior OL while at the same time encouraging him to play both ways in the Fall.
 

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According to Scout, BC became ND's second verbal!
I don't have premium content access, can anybody that does confirm this but from ythe headline it sounds like he committed to ND.
 
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