'16 TN WR Nate Johnson (Michigan Signee)

[drake29]

Really? You don't think that's common sense. I think Irish#1 is speaking from a place where its common sense that this kid gets high level training for the next few years in which case, what he said is very true. A majority of individuals have not physically matured at 17-18 years of age. Therefore, its easy to assume that one will get bigger, stronger, and faster as they "mature"

The context I may be looking at may be a big different then. An 18 year old kid doesn't simply get faster because he gets older. His body may still be changing but unless he trains himself with the intention of being a faster individual I don't think that he just 'becomes faster'. That and sometimes a kid is already maxed out. I don't think that's necessarily the case for Johnson, but I think everyone knows how rare it is to see a high school kid make a jump in terms of his speed/acceleration like Will Fuller did. And it seems like comparisons that are being thrown around a lot in this kid's thread are Will Fuller and Golden Tate. I think that's very silly to just assume that this kid is a late bloomer like Fuller and Tate and he's not the biggest guy, so....MATURITY. I think he's much less likely to make an impact on that level than McKinley or Claypool. I think the staff gave up on Hamlin too soon, and if they were looking for a slot guy he's already in the class (Julian Love). Love has just as much upside if not more than Johnson.

 

[Luckylucci]

The context I may be looking at may be a big different then. An 18 year old kid doesn't simply get faster because he gets older. His body may still be changing but unless he trains himself with the intention of being a faster individual I don't think that he just 'becomes faster'. That and sometimes a kid is already maxed out. I don't think that's necessarily the case for Johnson, but I think everyone knows how rare it is to see a high school kid make a jump in terms of his speed/acceleration like Will Fuller did. And it seems like comparisons that are being thrown around a lot in this kid's thread are Will Fuller and Golden Tate. I think that's very silly to just assume that this kid is a late bloomer like Fuller and Tate and he's not the biggest guy, so....MATURITY. I think he's much less likely to make an impact on that level than McKinley or Claypool. I think the staff gave up on Hamlin too soon, and if they were looking for a slot guy he's already in the class (Julian Love). Love has just as much upside if not more than Johnson.

Dude, slow down. Irish#1 might not have said it but I think its implied sense we are talking about football recruits. They aren't coming to campus to eat doritos and plays video games. They will be training at, what we should believe, an elite level. So in a majority of cases, maturity does increase those tangible traits.

To the bolded, Love is being recruited as a CB, you can argue with the staff on that all you want but I don't think they are listening. Also, on McKinley and Claypool, who cares if he doesn't make the impact those two guys do. Does that mean he's not worth a roster spot. So if those guys both turn out to be 1st round WR's you've somehow been deemed correct at not bringing in Johnson. They have nothing to do with each other.

We have space. He's a good slot WR prospect. Sounds good, done deal, sign him up.

 

[drake29]

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Dude, slow down. Irish#1 might not have said it but I think its implied sense we are talking about football recruits. They aren't coming to campus to eat doritos and plays video games. They will be training at, what we should believe, an elite level. So in a majority of cases, maturity does increase those tangible traits.

To the bolded, Love is being recruited as a CB, you can argue with the staff on that all you want but I don't think they are listening. Also, on McKinley and Claypool, who cares if he doesn't make the impact those two guys do. Does that mean he's not worth a roster spot. So if those guys both turn out to be 1st round WR's you've somehow been deemed correct at not bringing in Johnson. They have nothing to do with each other.

We have space. He's a good slot WR prospect. Sounds good, done deal, sign him up.

I know this (bolded) about Love - I guess what I'm ultimately saying is this....This kid (Johnson) is a slot receiver prospect and I think most would say a successful career for Johnson knowing the talent at ND at WR and TE would be as a solid role player. A guy that has solid hands and can move the chains after Hunter and Sanders are gone. It's not likely that this kid puts up similar numbers to Will Fuller, and definitely not Golden Tate as some have compared him to. So it just feels like a missed opportunity to recruit one of the best corners in the country (who liked ND and was at one point the top guy on their board) when they have a couple of guys (Love or Elliott) that could fill the same role that Johnson is being recruited for. If they land this kid, great, if not, I don't know why anyone would lose sleep over it. I guess I just get too worked up when people start comparing unknown players to ND greats and NFL All Pro's and talking about how the staff has somehow found a diamond in the rough.

 

[Domina Nostra]

Sounds like this has become a real possibility. 247 has him a 4-star with a 92 ranking, but Composite he is a 3-star with only an 86.

Personally, I'd gladly take him. He looks closer to the 92 than 86 to me, and we have room.

 

[Rizzophil]

looks like a take either way

 

[ab2cmiller]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Harbaugh could go in-home with WR Nate Johnson on Thursday as planned, or it could get pushed back. No in-home w/ BK scheduled yet.</p>— Anna Hickey (@AnnaHScout) <a href="https://twitter.com/AnnaHScout/status/691475517787144192">January 25, 2016</a></blockquote>
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[phork]

Why would Harbaugh visit with McDoom on the way.

 

[arrowryan]

Per Loy, he doesn't think Nate Johnson will end up at Notre Dame. Not because Michigan is outworking Notre Dame, but he thinks it is unlikely Notre Dame continues to pursue him. Loy isn't confident that Notre Dame pursues any receiver other than DR.

My take: I really like Nate Johnson but I think it is pretty obvious he was a backup plan to DR.

 

[beryirish]

Can only mean good news for ND if that is the case.

 

[PANDFAN]

Weird stuff- Loy is saying this doesn't have to do with anything related to drobb

 

[rtrn2glory]

don't like this if true.

love his highlights and think he's a take no matter what due to his ability to play both sides.

 

[gkIrish]

Weird stuff- Loy is saying this doesn't have to do with anything related to drobb

We are just trying to make sure we don't hit 85 schollies again. God forbid.

 

[Luckylucci]

I agree, the plan has always been to take 25, now we even add Luatua's scholarship and have the possibility of Elmer and Robinson not being on scholarship why the F not.

 

[PANDFAN]

I agree, the plan has always been to take 25, now we even add Luatua's scholarship and have the possibility of Elmer and Robinson not being on scholarship why the F not.

Robinson has pledged to return to the team

 

[rtrn2glory]

I'm prolly getting annoying to some, but I really want this kid in our class. He is a natural athlete that happens to be a really good football player too.

 

[Ironman8]

My guess it is transcript related. Usually those things are hashed out during OV's. My thought would be he is missing something required or there is some other admin issue here.

 

[TomHaverford]

wow, really hoping Kelly stays away. I was pretty much sure he was going to flip to ND. I want this kid badly. I think 247 is more accurate on his ranking than the other sites. He's got a lot of potential to be a very quality starting WR or CB. I like him better at CB, his quickness/hips are top notch. Pretty good size too.

 

[BobbyMac]

I'm prolly getting annoying to some, but I really want this kid in our class. He is a natural athlete that happens to be a really good football player too.

We can only guess that he would make a good DB candidate. He didn't play DB in high school and maybe doesn't have the desire to ever do so.

This is why I would have stayed on Alloway until he picked another hat, he's a proven commodity in all three aspects of the game.

That being said, I'd be thrilled if Johnson is a part of this class.

 

[FightingIrishLover7]

We can only guess that he would make a good DB candidate. He didn't play DB in high school and maybe doesn't have the desire to ever do so.

This is why I would have stayed on Alloway until he picked another hat, he's a proven commodity in all three aspects of the game.

That being said, I'd be thrilled if Johnson is a part of this class.

Weren't Mathias and Keivarae both offensive guys in high school? I thought they were WR and RB, respectively. Did they play on the otherside of the field?

 

[ryno 24]

Im taking this as the official visit did not go well. Miami backed off as well after his official visit. Maybe they did not like his attitude? Either way I wish the kid good luck.

 

[BobbyMac]

Weren't Mathias and Keivarae both offensive guys in high school? I thought they were WR and RB, respectively. Did they play on the otherside of the field?

I think you missed my point plus both Russell and Farley played DB in high school.

 

[Big23Head]

Per Anna, ND has slowed in recruiting him and was told "good fit here but not great fit"

 

[rtrn2glory]

Per Anna, ND has slowed in recruiting him and was told "good fit here but not great fit"

wow

does that mean he's not a take?? kind of vague

 

[ab2cmiller]

The concern I would have with Johnson, if I was BK, was how quickly he jumped at "better offers". If he came on campus and BK didn't get a good vibe that he would stick at ND, then BK should back off.

Having someone in the locker room that is disgruntled and potentially transfer if they don't get the playing time they think they deserve, is not worth pursuing.

I'm not sure if this has any relevance to Anna saying that Nate is a "good fit" but not a "great fit".

 

[Big23Head]

wow

does that mean he's not a take?? kind of vague

Not sure, that's what her contact told her, someone on NDs side of things

 

[beryirish]

Wiltfong still holding the CB with ND as of the 24th. Wonder if he will follow with these developments and switch it up or he's confident it will still be ND.

 

[GBdomer]

ND has officially dropped him

Just to know what kind of support staff he has his dad won't contact anyone from rivals or take their calls because Nate wasn't invited to the rivals 5 star challenge.

 

[ab2cmiller]

ND has officially dropped him

Just to know what kind of support staff he has his dad won't contact anyone from rivals or take their calls because Nate wasn't invited to the rivals 5 star challenge.

If we've dropped him, then Anna was simply being nice when she said Nate was a "good fit" not a "great fit".

 

[TomHaverford]

ND has officially dropped him

Just to know what kind of support staff he has his dad won't contact anyone from rivals or take their calls because Nate wasn't invited to the rivals 5 star challenge.

yikes. if that's true, feel bad for the kid. might not be a good fit at Michigan either if he has a parent like that. I don't see that meshing well with Harbaugh.

 

[Sherm Sticky]

yikes. if that's true, feel bad for the kid. might not be a good fit at Michigan either if he has a parent like that. I don't see that meshing well with Harbaugh.

Sounds like a perfect fit for Michigan!


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