'13 IN ATH Jaylon Smith (Notre Dame Man & Graduate)

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Great for JS. Congrats.

He is such a joy to watch play the game. I hope he stays one more season but no matter when he goes to the NFL he is going to be fun to watch there also.
 

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">For every Butkus Award winner, there is someone behind the scenes getting destroyed by <a href="https://twitter.com/JaeeSmiff9ENT">@JaeeSmiff9ENT</a> in warm ups. You're welcome Jaylon</p>— Nick Ossello (@nickossello) <a href="https://twitter.com/nickossello/status/674353789156106241">December 8, 2015</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">For every Butkus Award winner, there is someone behind the scenes getting destroyed by <a href="https://twitter.com/JaeeSmiff9ENT">@JaeeSmiff9ENT</a> in warm ups. You're welcome Jaylon</p>— Nick Ossello (@nickossello) <a href="https://twitter.com/nickossello/status/674353789156106241">December 8, 2015</a></blockquote>
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I keep seeing people say this, but is there any reason to not take him at his word?

I guess it all depends on what he hears back from the NFL evaluators. Been reading conflicting reports that he just did not want to distract the team. I hope he stays, but if he gets a first rd grade...
 

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He shoulda been mlb, I assume only pitch kelly can make is come back be mlb and run defense. It's a joke Joe was the Blitzer so much over jaylon, I also don't understand why jaylon wasn't used as pass rushing olb/de on obvious pass downs. Course if he lined up de, bvg probably would've just had him drop in coverage anyways
 

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I guess it all depends on what he hears back from the NFL evaluators. Been reading conflicting reports that he just did not want to distract the team. I hope he stays, but if he gets a first rd grade...

I think it's a given that he'll get a first round grade. Loyalty to the team and coaches is the only carrot, but nobody is going to fault him for going pro.
 

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He shoulda been mlb, I assume only pitch kelly can make is come back be mlb and run defense. It's a joke Joe was the Blitzer so much over jaylon, I also don't understand why jaylon wasn't used as pass rushing olb/de on obvious pass downs. Course if he lined up de, bvg probably would've just had him drop in coverage anyways
IIRC it was reported that he was asked to be more vocal as a leader and hasn't.
 

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Congrats to Jaylon.

It has been a great 3 years watching Jaylon play for ND.

I hope he follows in the footsteps of Manti and he comes back next year.
 

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Was Manti a projected 1st rounder after his junior year?


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Jaylon is a projected top 10 pick and some have him as high as 2 on the value scale, meaning he could be top 5. There is absolutely no reason to come back with that grade, he isn't a fringe first rounder.

Hopefully Stanley also goes top 5, it'd be great to see them drafted back to back. And I hope Sheldon is in the first 2 rounds
 

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Do you guys think there's a better chance he comes back if we win/lose to OSU? I feel like if we win he'll realize how close he is to the whole thing and it will make it more likely he comes back.

There you go letting emotions dictate your thinking again.
 
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Double Barreled Butkus Award Winner

First team All-American Linebacker (at least one, maybe consensus);

Two 100+ Tackle seasons.

Hey wait! There is something to do :



Career Tackles (Since 1975)
Name Tackles Years
Bob Crable 521 1978 - 1981
Bob Golic 479 1975 - 1978

Season Tackles (Since 1975)
Name Tackles Year
Bob Crable 187 1979

Career Tackles (Since 2000)
Name Tackles Years
Manti Te'o 437 2009 - 2012

Jaylon's Career ** 283 (5th)
 
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You're hoping the bowl game will play a role in Jaylon coming back. Otherwise you're not asking the question, right?

Without the bowl game the question wouldn't exist. I'm not hoping for anything. I'm asking if people think going out with a big win/loss will make Jaylon think differently about next year. This has nothing to do with me emotions which is why I'm confused.
 

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Jaylon Smith has been named the 2015 Butkus Award winner for College Football's Top Linebacker. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Team127?src=hash">#Team127</a> <a href="https://t.co/tq00ogXo84">pic.twitter.com/tq00ogXo84</a></p>— Notre Dame Football (@NDFootball) <a href="https://twitter.com/NDFootball/status/674352077661958144">December 8, 2015</a></blockquote>
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Let's do what the press said Impossible in 12'. Heisman watch all the way..
 

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Without the bowl game the question wouldn't exist. I'm not hoping for anything. I'm asking if people think going out with a big win/loss will make Jaylon think differently about next year. This has nothing to do with me emotions which is why I'm confused.

I don't know if it would or it wouldn't, but I'd hope he isn't going to make the decision based on anything like that. Only thing that should impact it is whether he will make more money in his career by going now and playing an extra year, or by coming back and making more money in his first deal.
 
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I don't know if it would or it wouldn't, but I'd hope he isn't going to make the decision based on anything like that. Only thing that should impact it is whether he will make more money in his career by going now and playing an extra year, or by coming back and making more money in his first deal.

If he has a strict business perspective, yes. But we know that's not always how ND kids make decisions.
 

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Congrats Jaylon. Just change the title of this thread to Notre Dame man


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koonja

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You make it seem like he owes you four years of his life for some reason.

Doesn't owe me shit. But if this made up title is for the true ND folk, you'd think it'd be reserved for ones who actually take advantage of the degree and graduate.

Don't spin this as anthing more than that just because you're on a trip tonight - he doesn't owe me shit and I'll applauded him if he goes pro and wish him the best.
 

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Doesn't owe me shit. But if this made up title is for the true ND folk, you'd think it'd be reserved for ones who actually take advantage of the degree and graduate.



Don't spin this as anthing more than that just because you're on a trip tonight - he doesn't owe me shit and I'll applauded him if he goes pro and wish him the best.


Disagree the title should be changed. Just because he leaves a year early doesn't mean he won't graduate. I def see him coming back in the spring and summer to complete his degree ala Jimmy Clausen.


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Disagree the title should be changed. Just because he leaves a year early doesn't mean he won't graduate. I def see him coming back in the spring and summer to complete his degree ala Jimmy Clausen.


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So when he graduates give him the title. I couldn't give two shit's what the title says - I'm one who thinks it's a funny waste of time when people write 'thanks' or 'congrats' to players in titles - but if people on here take these titles of 'nd man seriously', I think it's lazy to give it to someone who decided to leave before graduating just because he was a really good player and all around good guy. There's something about loving ND enough to graduate from it regardless of if it costs you a year in the league or not.
 

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Doesn't owe me shit. But if this made up title is for the true ND folk, you'd think it'd be reserved for ones who actually take advantage of the degree and graduate.

Don't spin this as anthing more than that just because you're on a trip tonight - he doesn't owe me shit and I'll applauded him if he goes pro and wish him the best.

I'm not on an anything. I have posted twice (now three times), and I don't think I've been a dick about it. I just disagree with you on this situation.
 
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