'12 VA S C.J. Prosise (Notre Dame Signed LOI)

[BobbyMac]

He flies when he gets a chance to open it up and run.

Could he run a sub 4.4?

I doubt it. Sub 4.5 will be all he needs at that size and his top speed. But imagine how fast he'll be coming of a pro set handoff. Would love for him to run out of the I with Luatua at FB.

 

[Irish2155]

Come on man, reeeeeeally?. It's a silly meme that's floating around Facebook. If it offends the majority's sensibilities here or if we're afraid Coach Miles will use it for bulletin board material, by all means take it down. I'll laugh at it on Facebook. I don't know how SNL stays on the air in today's PC climate.

I'm just saying it is bad mojo imo. There is no reason for it. Leave it alone, no reason for it.

 

[BobbyMac]

I'm just saying it is bad mojo imo. There is no reason for it. Leave it alone, no reason for it.

Sorry, I'm not one to believe that I can sway ND's fate by my actions. I never thought that highly of myself. Cosmically, I'm a weak stick.

 

[Circa]

What does PC mean? I watched the South Park last week and they kept saying PC and it seemed like being culturally sensitive, but I missed the meeting.

Really dude?

 

[Irish2155]

Sorry, I'm not one to believe that I can sway ND's fate by my actions. I never thought that highly of myself. Cosmically, I'm a weak stick.

You're cool bro, no worries...certainly no a weak stick.

Calling Fournette a "her" is just stupid and I especially don't like it on a pic of CJ.

You didn't make it...but it is bad mojo.

 

[GoldenToTheGrave]

I doubt it. Sub 4.5 will be all he needs at that size and his top speed. But imagine how fast he'll be coming of a pro set handoff. Would love for him to run out of the I with Luatua at FB.

He outran the whole LSU defense, and there are guys that will run a 4.4 on that team. I think he'll be in the 4.4 range.

 

[GoldenToTheGrave]

I'm not a big fan, probably just being a pud.

There is no reason to call the possible Heisman winner a "her" on a picture of CJ. Fournette is a stud, like really good. CJ is a stud too and he is super good as well.

Just don't understand why? When it is all said and done, CJ's production will speak for itself.

Am I the only one who thinks Fournette runs more like a middle linebacker than a running back? He tends to run very upright most of the time, almost never moves laterally, and is but is just so big and fast that he'll outrun linebackers and too much for DB's to handle. Even in the two big plays he had against us in the bowl game, he was untouched and just ran straight ahead for the TD.

Then again he's pretty much a Steven Jackson clone, and he had a borderline HOF career. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

 

[Irish2155]

Am I the only one who thinks Fournette runs more like a middle linebacker than a running back? He tends to run very upright most of the time, almost never moves laterally, and is but is just so big and fast that he'll outrun linebackers and too much for DB's to handle. Even in the two big plays he had against us in the bowl game, he was untouched and just ran straight ahead for the TD.

Then again he's pretty much a Steven Jackson clone, and he had a borderline HOF career. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Give him a head of steam and he is most like a train more than a running back I've seen in a while. ND fans should no that more than anyone.

But lets get back on topic. Our dude is really good too. Maybe the second best back in the country. Chubb is good too but I'm just happy a non running back before this year is in that type of convo. Says a lot about the type of player CJ is.

 

[D-BOE34]

Am I the only one who thinks Fournette runs more like a middle linebacker than a running back? He tends to run very upright most of the time, almost never moves laterally, and is but is just so big and fast that he'll outrun linebackers and too much for DB's to handle. Even in the two big plays he had against us in the bowl game, he was untouched and just ran straight ahead for the TD.

Then again he's pretty much a Steven Jackson clone, and he had a borderline HOF career. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

If Fournette has a great work ethic, he will be an animal in the pros just like SJ was. That is the exact same comparison I had. Only issue I ever had with SJ was he danced a lot for a big guy. Albeit he made ish happen and was awesome so more power to him.

 

[BobbyMac]

He outran the whole LSU defense, and there are guys that will run a 4.4 on that team. I think he'll be in the 4.4 range.

He did. But quick and fast are two different things. And I'm not saying he isn't quick, sub 4.5 is quick especially when you've got overdrive. There's lots of quick guys that run out of gears when having to go 80+ yards and get caught from behind. CJ-P hasn't had that happen.

 

[koonja]

I hope we don't know the answer to this question anytime soon.

 

[Irish2155]

Saying that Fournette is the best back in the country is a fact, he is a once in a lifetime (Hershel) type talent...that's what it is.

Saying CJ is the second best back in the country is BIG time...and who is better? Nick Chubb? He is good too.

Early in the season...we'll see. Let's hope health for all of them.

 

[koonja]

I'd take Chubb all day over CJ. CJ is playing great but let's not get crazy. I'd also take Derrick Henry. After those 3 it might be CJ.

 

[D-BOE34]

When is the last time we had a WR in the same conversation with the top 5 RB's in the country, when said WR is in his 1st season as the BACKUP RB to start the season?

 

[IrishJayhawk]

Saying that Fournette is the best back in the country is a fact, he is a once in a lifetime (Hershel) type talent...that's what it is.

Saying CJ is the second best back in the country is BIG time...and who is better? Nick Chubb? He is good too.

Early in the season...we'll see. Let's hope health for all of them.

I'd trade my entire draft for him.

 

[Irish2155]

I'd take Chubb all day over CJ. CJ is playing great but let's not get crazy. I'd also take Derrick Henry. After those 3 it might be CJ.

Yeah, GA has a couple RBs that might give CJ a run for his money. But to think, CJ three games has put himself in that conversation playing 5 conference teams every week.

Let's see how it plays out. I really like our guy with this OL over anyone minus Leonard. Leonard kind of reminds me of robocop the way he runs...he just sheds everyone.

 

[Cackalacky]

I'd put Chubb, Henry, Fournette way up top. CJ is up there but he hasn't done it for too long yet. Definitely playing well though.

One thing I like is CJs feet when he changes direction. He almost slides out of breaks. I think it was the TD run down the left side where he got the facemask grabbed... prior to him hitting the sideline he just slipped past a diving defender. Smoothest thing I have seen from a RB in a long time.

 

[Irish2155]

I'd put Chubb, Henry, Fournette way up top. CJ is up there but he hasn't done it for too long yet. Definitely playing well though.

One thing I like is CJs feet when he changes direction. He almost slides out of breaks. I think it was the TD run down the left side where he got the facemask grabbed... prior to him hitting the sideline he just slipped past a diving defender. Smoothest thing I have seen from a RB in a long time.

Yes, yes...where I'm coming from too. Behind this line...just needs more time.

This is what I like about CJ. He isn't Manchild...he doesn't just beast like Fornette. He sees, moves, finds a hole, then blast...and breaks away. All within a second or two. And the break away is amazing.

 

[NDinL.A.]

Saying that Fournette is the best back in the country is a fact, he is a once in a lifetime (Hershel) type talent...that's what it is.

Saying CJ is the second best back in the country is BIG time...and who is better? Nick Chubb? He is good too.

Early in the season...we'll see. Let's hope health for all of them.

Besides Chubb, Henry is a pretty obvious one. But one that nobody talks about is Perkins from UCLA. 1600 quiet yards last year (I think), and off to a flying start this year as well. Rosen was AWFUL last week vs BYU, so they turned to Perkins, and he got 219 yds to save their playoff hopes. There are more that have done it for longer than Prosise. But he has looked great so far, so hopefully he can put himself in that conversation.

 

[koonja]

We should all feel dumb for not mentioning Ezekiel Elliot.

 

[Luckylucci]

We should all feel dumb for not mentioning Ezekiel Elliot.

OSU fans have been fairly livid that he's not getting more touches and the offense has found itself trying to throw the ball all over the field.

 

[GoldenToTheGrave]

Saying that Fournette is the best back in the country is a fact, he is a once in a lifetime (Hershel) type talent...that's what it is.

Saying CJ is the second best back in the country is BIG time...and who is better? Nick Chubb? He is good too.

Early in the season...we'll see. Let's hope health for all of them.

Just in the past 15 years or so I'd take Ladainian Tomlinson, Adrian Peterson, Reggie Bush over Fournette IMO. I'm not even ready to say I'd take him over, say, Todd Gurley. I think the Fournette hype train is gotten a bit ahead of itself even if he is a beast.

 

[koonja]

I doubt hell ever be the player Fournette is/will be, but Bo Scarborough's senior RB film was more impressive to me than Fournette's. Go watch that if you have time. Monster.

 

[dublinirish]

OSU fans have been fairly livid that he's not getting more touches and the offense has found itself trying to throw the ball all over the field.

i've never seen the clear Heisman favourite in a season get so little opportunity to put a Heisman calibur resume on tape. It is bonkers what Warinner and Beck are doing this year

 

[arrowryan]

Imagine having Zaire, Folston, and Prosise in the backfield at the same time next year. They might never have to throw the ball.

Prosise could very easily have over 600 yards rushing just 4 games into the season

Brian Kelly has moved players to different positions pretty much since he got here. He has made some smart position switches (Niklas, KVR, Tillery, etc.) but the Prosise switch is quickly becoming his best one yet. Hopefully Brent can have similar results.

 

[GowerND11]

He did. But quick and fast are two different things. And I'm not saying he isn't quick, sub 4.5 is quick especially when you've got overdrive. There's lots of quick guys that run out of gears when having to go 80+ yards and get caught from behind. CJ-P hasn't had that happen.

I agree. He seems to kick it up a notch when he hits ~30 yards or so, which doesn't really translate to the 40. Those long strides help him with that. Like someone mentioned, he doesn't look to be going that fast, but when you watch his legs look at how much he covers just with one stride. That's what helps him separate from the defense.

 

[IrishLion]

CJ almost looks like GAIII with the way he runs sort of upright and is susceptible to big hits...

The difference is that he actually understands the idea of lateral movement, and also how to minimize the hits he's taking despite his running style. He can also use his vision to find a crease. GAIII was dependent on making one cut and then trying to hit full speed. No on-field awareness really.

We are incredibly lucky to have CJ, and it is awesome to watch how efficient he is. I'm not film guy by any means, but when we keep hearing that there is no wasted movement in his runs, I know exactly what that means now. Even when he's juking and jiving, he's not moving backwards or even treading water, he's always moving forward.

 

[Bogtrotter07]

He did. But quick and fast are two different things. And I'm not saying he isn't quick, sub 4.5 is quick especially when you've got overdrive. There's lots of quick guys that run out of gears when having to go 80+ yards and get caught from behind. CJ-P hasn't had that happen.

Okay, I did my research.

Everything I am about to present can be backed by others in the program. Several players including Joe Schmidt have been candid and descriptive of CJ.

Joe calls CJ an "athletic freak with some special skills."

• He indicates that CJ is incredibly hard for the ND first defense to bring down.
• CJ has an innate ability to hit the hole, has impeccable timing and gets north and south right away.
• CJ is deceptively strong, big, and has an incredible first step.

Others have added information to what Joe has described :

• CJ is a solid 6'1" if not 6'2" and clearly 230 pounds. His lower body is really solid.
• CJ is a 4.4 flat if not faster forty man.
• CJ has good lateral movement.
• CJ has stamina, as well as a third and fourth gear. He gets going and he just doesn't tire.

So all in all, Prosise's measurables are freakish.

Several ND players that have played against both LF and CJ, are all around pleased that CJ is on their team. But they won't come out and say that for obvious reasons.

They will say that they wouldn't trade CJ for anyone. Listen.

 

[Veritate Duce Progredi]

Imagine having Zaire, Folston, and Prosise in the backfield at the same time next year. They might never have to throw the ball.

Prosise could very easily have over 600 yards rushing just 4 games into the season

Brian Kelly has moved players to different positions pretty much since he got here. He has made some smart position switches (Niklas, KVR, Tillery, etc.) but the Prosise switch is quickly becoming his best one yet. Hopefully Brent can have similar results.

Harrison Smith would like to have a word.

 

[arrowryan]

Harrison Smith would like to have a word.

Wow. Totally forgot about him. Harrison was a horrible linebacker lol. In CJ's defense though, he has emerged a lot quicker than Smith did and straight took over the game last week against GT