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Taken from footballscoop.com.

"Alabama notes: If Saban takes the job, look for Tom Clements (QB's at Green Bay) to be offensive coordinator and Kirby Smart (safeties at Miami) to be defensive coordinator. Tony Nathan may also join the staff. If Saban decides not to coach Bama, Bret Bielema, Jack Del Rio, or Paul Johnson are next. Bielema is the favorite among some prominent alumni"

Does Alabama really think they can land Saban?
 

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Taken from footballscoop.com.

"Alabama notes: If Saban takes the job, look for Tom Clements (QB's at Green Bay) to be offensive coordinator and Kirby Smart (safeties at Miami) to be defensive coordinator. Tony Nathan may also join the staff. If Saban decides not to coach Bama, Bret Bielema, Jack Del Rio, or Paul Johnson are next. Bielema is the favorite among some prominent alumni"

Does Alabama really think they can land Saban?

I believe Saban has already publicly acknowledged that he's not taking this job. I'll have to find the link or the article.
 

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I believe Saban has already publicly acknowledged that he's not taking this job. I'll have to find the link or the article.

Here's a blurb from an ESPN article a week ago:

The Tide had also made overtures to South Carolina's Steve Spurrier and Nick Saban of the Miami Dolphins, but both high-profile coaches opted to stay put.
 

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Saban is a snake, you cannot take him for his word. He told MSU that he wasn't leaving and I believe that he told LSU that he wasn't going to leave.
 

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Saban is a snake, you cannot take him for his word. He told MSU that he wasn't leaving and I believe that he told LSU that he wasn't going to leave.

That would qualify him for the Dennis Franchionne "I'm not leaving" chair in Tuscaloosa.
 

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Taken from footballscoop.com.

"Alabama notes: If Saban takes the job, look for Tom Clements (QB's at Green Bay) to be offensive coordinator and Kirby Smart (safeties at Miami) to be defensive coordinator. Tony Nathan may also join the staff. If Saban decides not to coach Bama, Bret Bielema, Jack Del Rio, or Paul Johnson are next. Bielema is the favorite among some prominent alumni"

Does Alabama really think they can land Saban?

They do. But then they have 72 National Championships (hmmm, isn't that the same number of virgins the suicide bombers claim?)
 

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No, I don't want to be the head football coach at your legendary school. [/QUOTE]

That's the actual inscription of the hottest selling T-shirt at Malls in Alabama this Christmas season.
 
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A guy I'd seriously look at if I were Bama is Mike Martz. I think he'd be a phenomial coach in the college ranks. He reminds me a little of Steve Spurrier only he has had some success in the NFL. QB, or WR recruits would flock to him. I'm Surprised I never hear his name mentioned with any of these opening college jobs, Callahan isn't half the offensive mind Martz is yet he was able to get a great job in Nebraska.
 

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A guy I'd seriously look at if I were Bama is Mike Martz. I think he'd be a phenomial coach in the college ranks. He reminds me a little of Steve Spurrier only he has had some success in the NFL. QB, or WR recruits would flock to him. I'm Surprised I never hear his name mentioned with any of these opening college jobs, Callahan isn't half the offensive mind Martz is yet he was able to get a great job in Nebraska.

Bite your tongue, he is Brady Quinn's future offensive coordinator
 

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Paul Johnson? Wow that would be very unique to see his offense at Alabama.
 
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My Dolphins buddy thinks Saban is taking it. Not sure why. I just don't see why an NFL Head Coach takes that job unless he knows he is about to get canned. Is Bama throwing that much money around? Any coach that takes it needs to make sure there is a good buy-out, because chances are they are gone in a year or 2 if they don't win the SEC.
 

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Just to get it on the record....

I am turning down the head coach position at Alabama as well.
 
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Saban wants no part of the Bama job (per ESPN article)...Which is good because now he can go back to making Manuel Wright cry.
 
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The perfect fit would have been O'Brien from BC -- he is a top 10 coach.
 

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Newest Article from ESPN:

Updated: Jan. 1, 2007, 9:37 AM ET
Bama to make big offer to Saban later todayESPN.com news services

Will Alabama lure Nick Saban away from the Dolphins? The Crimson Tide will make their formal pitch later Monday, ESPN's Chris Mortensen is reporting.

Dolphins' owner Wayne Huizenga is trying to persuade Saban to ignore Alabama's overtures.

Saban has three years left on his Dolphins deal worth approximately $4.5 million a year. Huizenga may have to bump him up considerably to keep him because the financial security gap is expected to be significantly different between the Dolphins and the Crimson Tide.

Alabama has only floated numbers that will be in the $4 to $4.5 million range, but over an 8- to 10-year term.

There are 11 colleges coaches who make over $2 million a year. There are four coaches in the $3 million-plus range, if you count USC's Pete Carroll, who made $2.93 million this year and should be over $3 million next year. Notre Dame's Charlie Weis, Iowa's Kirk Ferentz and Oklahoma's Bob Stoops are over $3 million.

A current Alabama assistant told ESPN.com's Mark Schlabach on Sunday morning that former coach Mike Shula's staff expects Saban to be named the Crimson Tide's new coach sometime this week.

"He's going to clean house here, top to bottom," the coach said.

An Alabama official, speaking on the condition on anonymity, said earlier this week the Crimson Tide are interested in as many as five candidates to replace Shula, but Saban was clearly the top choice. The Alabama official said the school hoped to have Shula's replacement hired by Friday, which marks the beginning of an important recruiting weekend.

Reports linking Alabama and Saban began circulating soon after the Crimson Tide fired Shula as coach in late November. Saban has repeatedly denied interest in the job.

"I'm not going to be the Alabama coach," he said last week.

Saban said he wouldn't comment on the Alabama opening anymore.

"I'm just making a rule to never comment on something like that again because every time you comment on it, it just makes for another story," Saban said. "So I'm not going to comment on it five years from now, and I'm not going to comment on it next week."

He reminded reporters of his stance after Miami's season-ending 27-22 loss to the Colts on Sunday, adding the Dolphins job is the one "I'm committed to doing well."

Saban acknowledged this month that Alabama approached his agent about its coaching job, but he declined an invitation to talk to the Crimson Tide.

Saban agreed to a five-year contract worth at least $22.5 million with Miami on Christmas Day 2004.

Saban went 48-16 in five seasons at LSU, won the 2003 BCS national championship and went 92-42-1 as a college head coach. He turned down several overtures from the NFL before leaving Baton Rouge for Miami.

LSU offensive coordinator Jimbo Fisher, who worked for Saban when the Tigers won the 2003 BCS national championship, said he wasn't sure if Saban would return to college football.

"I don't know what Nick's going to do," Fisher said. "That deal over there, I don't know. I'm sitting on the edge of my seat like everyone else waiting to see what happens."

But Fisher did indirectly indicate that Saban is unhappy coaching in the NFL, where he has less control over personnel issues.

When speaking about his own job opportunities, Fisher said: "I don't want to take the wrong job and three or four years later, you're asking for the one you had." Fisher then smiled and said, "We all know that happens a lot."

Original link: http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=2716394
 
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The perfect fit would have been O'Brien from BC -- he is a top 10 coach.

Interesting...I hadn't thought of him for that job, but he might have been a very good fit. Personally, I think Bama needs to pull their head out. They think they can attract the best and the brightest. But you know, the best coaches aren't interested.

I think they should consider taking a hot coordinator. It worked for Oklahoma.
 
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Nothing works against SEC defenses. They are inpenetrable.

C'mon man, I know that you have an axe to grind with the SEC, but do you seriosuly think an option attack would work at Alabama? I personally feel that there is a reason that this offense is only run by the academies and why it went the way fo the dinosaur.
 
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DAVIE, Fla. -- Alabama renewed its courtship of Dolphins coach Nick Saban on Monday, and he declined to say whether he'll remain with Miami.

Saban's head coaching career

SabanNick Saban signed a five-year contract with the Dolphins on Dec. 27, 2004, becoming the sixth coach in Miami's history.
COACHING RECORD:
With Dolphins: 15-17 (2005-present)
With LSU: 48-16 (2000-'04)*
With Michigan State: 35-24-1 (1995-'99)
With Toledo: 9-2 (1990)

* Won national title following 2003 season.


"I've got a rule that I'm not talking about any of that stuff," Saban said.


The Crimson Tide made their formal pitch Monday, ESPN's Chris Mortensen is reports. Dolphins' owner Wayne Huizenga is trying to persuade Saban to ignore Alabama's overtures.

Saban has three years left on his Dolphins deal worth approximately $4.5 million a year. Huizenga may have to bump him up considerably to keep him because the financial security gap is expected to be significantly different between the Dolphins and the Crimson Tide.

Alabama has only floated numbers that will be in the $4 to $4.5 million range, but over an 8- to 10-year term.

An Alabama official told ESPN.com's Pat Forde on Monday at 3:30 p.m. Tuscaloosa time that a final yes or no from Saban was expected "within the next 24 hours."

There are 11 colleges coaches who make over $2 million a year. There are four coaches in the $3 million-plus range, if you count USC's Pete Carroll, who made $2.93 million this year and should be over $3 million next year. Notre Dame's Charlie Weis, Iowa's Kirk Ferentz and Oklahoma's Bob Stoops are over $3 million.

A current Alabama assistant told ESPN.com's Mark Schlabach on Sunday morning that former coach Mike Shula's staff expects Saban to be named the Crimson Tide's new coach sometime this week.

"He's going to clean house here, top to bottom," the coach said.

At a 25-minute day-after-the-season news conference, Saban tried to limit the conversation to the Dolphins' disappointing year and offseason issues. But the biggest issue is whether they'll need a new coach.

For weeks Saban has denied interest in the Alabama job, which became vacant when Mike Shula was fired Nov. 27. Reports that Alabama is again trying to lure him away from the Dolphins prompted another round of questions.

"I'm committed to doing my job well here," Saban said. "This is my job. That's what I've done all day today, and that's what I'll continue to do."


Alabama athletic director Mal Moore left Tuscaloosa on a plane Monday headed for a Miami area airport. However, no meeting has been scheduled with Saban.

If Moore does not meet with Saban, he hopes to meet with Bobby Petrino after Louisville's Orange Bowl appearance. However no meeting between those two has been set, either.

When asked if there's an Alabama offer on the table, Saban said, "I have not talked to anyone." When asked if he's scheduled to meet with school officials this week, he said, "I don't know about that."

Moore said he won't discuss the coaching search until it's over.

"I'm talking with three or four different coaches at this point, so I don't want to comment about any coach," Moore said.

Saban's agent declined comment.

Stymied in their search since West Virginia's Rich Rodriguez turned down the job Dec. 8, the Tide may move quickly now that the season is ending for many teams. The NCAA's recruiting "dead period" started Dec. 18 and ends Friday.

The Tide finished the season 6-7, losing Thursday to Oklahoma State in the Independence Bowl.

Saban said he met individually with more than two dozen players Monday, one day after the Dolphins lost at Indianapolis to conclude a disappointing 6-10 season.

It was Saban's first losing season in 13 years as a head coach. He's 15-17 in two years with Miami, his first NFL head coaching job.

When asked if the past two seasons had soured his view of the NFL, he said, "I don't think so. This is a very competitive league. Everybody has good players. There's a lot of parity."
 
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America is a wonderful place. He is under contract, yet he is free to seek a better deal and use it as leverage to improve his current deal.

The guy is bright, and a coach for hire. He's going where the best deal is, and Miami better be ready to redo his deal if Alabama is doing anything close to a ten year guaranteed deal. Zero emotion.

Didn't he work with Belichick? The apple doesn't fall far from the tree.
 
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C'mon man, I know that you have an axe to grind with the SEC, but do you seriosuly think an option attack would work at Alabama? I personally feel that there is a reason that this offense is only run by the academies and why it went the way fo the dinosaur.

I was just joking. A traditional option attck rarely works against anyone decent. Some kind of souped up spread option like UF or WVU runs could work though with the right athletes.
 
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America is a wonderful place. He is under contract, yet he is free to seek a better deal and use it as leverage to improve his current deal.

The guy is bright, and a coach for hire. He's going where the best deal is, and Miami better be ready to redo his deal if Alabama is doing anything close to a ten year guaranteed deal. Zero emotion.

Didn't he work with Belichick? The apple doesn't fall far from the tree.

You make it sound like a bad thing that this guy watches out for his career. In this day age, everyone is "for hire". Loyalty went out years ago. Employers made employees disposable and now employees are turning the tables and treating employers like they are disposable.

There is zero loyalty anywhere. In fact, look at ND. We hire Weis, an ND grad. We give him a 6 year deal. We worry that he will abandon us in the first year of the 6 year deal and give him a ten year deal at $3M per season. Now, if ND can't count on an ND grad to honor his original contract, then nobody can count on anyone to honor a contract. Everyone is a free agent. That's not necessarily a bad thing either.

PS...Can you tell that I make my living as a recruiter?
 

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I heard on the game tonight that saban is having a press conference tommorrow morning to announce his decision. Do you think he will turn down 40mill to stay w the dolphins?
 

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he'd be a fool to turn that money down. Miami isn't going anywhere anytime soon in the AFC
 

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Saban is the Larry Brown of football coaches...only w/ worse PR skills.
 

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Birmingham TV reports Saban's Alabama staff to include:
  • Jimbo Fisher LSU
  • Stacy Searles LSU
  • Charlies Harbison UA
  • Kevin Steele FSU LBs
  • Tom Clements QB Packers
  • Bobby Williams Dolphins
 
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