'14 OH QB DeShone Kizer (Notre Dame Signee)

[EddytoNow]

For one day, Kiser looked like the comeback kid. No one knows if he can do it on a regular basis, but he has certainly earned the chance. College football history is littered with successful quarterbacks, who seized the opportunity when it presented itself. Let's hope DeShone is the next one to do just that.

 

[yankeehater]

This board is amazing! I, like all, hope the kid does well, but one drive and half the people on here are anointing him as ND's Heisman winner. The TD was flat out blown coverage which amazes me how they let Fuller behind them in that situation.

It is one thing to enter a game in relief (he did perform better than I thought), but it is truly another situation when you are the man.

I am concerned if he is not the running threat that Zaire was it will also hurt Prosise's running game which has been phenomenal.

I hope it goes well, but there is usually a reason why someone was third string a matter of months ago with no real thought of ever being a contributor.

 

[IrishJayhawk]

This board is amazing! I, like all, hope the kid does well, but one drive and half the people on here are anointing him as ND's Heisman winner.

Boy. I didn't see anyone saying anything close to that.

 

[GoIrish41]

This board is amazing! I, like all, hope the kid does well, but one drive and half the people on here are anointing him as ND's Heisman winner. The TD was flat out blown coverage which amazes me how they let Fuller behind them in that situation.

It is one thing to enter a game in relief (he did perform better than I thought), but it is truly another situation when you are the man.

I am concerned if he is not the running threat that Zaire was it will also hurt Prosise's running game which has been phenomenal.

I hope it goes well, but there is usually a reason why someone was third string a matter of months ago with no real thought of ever being a contributor.

Kelly ran Zaire too much for the coaches not to have faith in Kizer. We are likely to see what Wimbush is capable of pretty soon as well. I think Kizer settles in and getting Wimbush some reps will put ND in a better position to navigate a long season. Maybe this finally convinces the coaches to stick to the run more. Procise appears to have the goods.

 

[IrishHokie22]

Boy. I didn't see anyone saying anything close to that.

It's no different than the more "optimistic" fans constantly calling out the more "negative" posters and using their own ridiculous hyperboles to help make their point.

 

[arndtjc]

The TD was flat out blown coverage which amazes me how they let Fuller behind them in that situation.

Simply not true. Fuller ran an amazing double move, which Kizer sold by looking his way on the fake slant. Busted coverage had nothing to do with it


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[ThePiombino]

Simply not true. Fuller ran an amazing double move, which Kizer sold by looking his way on the fake slant. Busted coverage had nothing to do with it


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Yup, it was actually a well designed (and executed) play.

 

[IrishJayhawk]

It's no different than the more "optimistic" fans constantly calling out the more "negative" posters and using their own ridiculous hyperboles to help make their point.

Probably not, but negativity is so much less pleasant.

 

[yankeehater]

Simply not true. Fuller ran an amazing double move, which Kizer sold by looking his way on the fake slant. Busted coverage had nothing to do with it


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Maybe....but you just cannot allow a WR behind you at that point of the game. See ND at Michigan.

 

[Cackalacky]

Maybe....but you just cannot allow a WR behind you at that point of the game. See ND at Michigan.

But that is exactly what Fuller does. He takes the top off of coverage.

 

[Bogtrotter07]

Sooooo, can this guy run? I know he's a decent athlete, but is he fast enough to run the zone option? I almost hope not just because I dont want to see any more QBs get hit. Highlight film anywhere? I know jack shit about Kizer other than I was glad to have him as a career backup. Welp. I bet Bogs is going to cum in his pants when he hears Kizer is starting. Thank God he turned down that D3 Ohio basketball offer!

Koon, a chara,

Coming in pants is an oxymoron in my book;

Why would you assume I was going to come in DeShone Kizer's pants? (hmmm???);

It wasn't a D3 basketball offer, it was a fairly decent D1 offer, and it was an unfounded rumor started by a Buckeye fan and given traction at UofT and BGSU within their coaching staffs (I think I have a pretty good handle on the story, as if it matters);

I have repeatedly told posters on this site, there is not much of a connection between my sexuality and feelings about football, let alone the men that play the game (I will leave that for others);

And if I horribly misunderstood your comment, for the record, I am not interested in coming in your pants, OR you coming in mine. (Just not into coming in pants, sorry!)

But I do believe DeShone has all basis of all the skills he needs covered to do well this year : he is a hard hitting and deceptively elusive runner; he has a great long ball, (think Fuller, Hunter, ESB, CBreezy, etc.,); and he is a smart player always showing himself to be an inspired leader.

Beir bua agus beannacht,

Bogs

PS : I hope we can get over both the 'coming in the pants' and the Toledo thing!

 

[NDRock]

Maybe....but you just cannot allow a WR behind you at that point of the game. See ND at Michigan.

You also can't allow someone like Fuller to catch a slant and run for 15 yards when a FG will beat you. Great call, great route and great throw.

 

[Bogtrotter07]

And Toledo did put the whoop on Arkansas....so there's that too. It's all coming together now boys!

I think I'm just tired and a little unhinged but something about his physique and throwing motion remind me of Jameis Winston.

Ironically, yesterday was about as bad a day for me as I can imagine (little nitty interpersonal stuff); but I think it was about as good for the hometown kids as it gets!

What about those Rockets?

And Riddickulous, from the time DeShone was a freshman in high school he had that long ambling gait, and outfielder's throwing motion! I used to feel bad for the kid, but then I looked closer. The kid used to look like a bean pole. He doesn't anymore.

You can take it to the bank that he is 6'5" tall, and 235 pounds. Not quite as fat as Jameis or Cardell, but substantial. Don't miss like I did the fact that he is one powerful 'linebacker-like runner' and that he can throw a half a mile with incredible ball placement and timing. I am telling you, look at his old high school game film, and his long throws, no matter how awkward they may have looked, were on time and in place for his wide receivers, more so than I can remember with any other high school quarterback that I have seen!

PS. I saw it once in practice where he faked one of our linebackers out of his jock strap, but don't underrate his running, his ypc in high school was off the charts. He has an ability like a super-long CJ Saunders for being able to cut effectively without having to take his foot off of the gas.

 

[rtrn2glory]

hope he can represent the 419.

kinda cool to have a guy close to home running the show in south bend

 

[koonja]

Ironically, yesterday was about as bad a day for me as I can imagine (little nitty interpersonal stuff); but I think it was about as good for the hometown kids as it gets!

What about those Rockets?

And Riddickulous, from the time DeShone was a freshman in high school he had that long ambling gait, and outfielder's throwing motion! I used to feel bad for the kid, but then I looked closer. The kid used to look like a bean pole. He doesn't anymore.

You can take it to the bank that he is 6'5" tall, and 235 pounds. Not quite as fat as Jameis or Cardell, but substantial. Don't miss like I did the fact that he is one powerful 'linebacker-like runner' and that he can throw a half a mile with incredible ball placement and timing. I am telling you, look at his old high school game film, and his long throws, no matter how awkward they may have looked, were on time and in place for his wide receivers, more so than I can remember with any other high school quarterback that I have seen!

PS. I saw it once in practice where he faked one of our linebackers out of his jock strap, but don't underrate his running, his ypc in high school was off the charts. He has an ability like a super-long CJ Saunders for being able to cut effectively without having to take his foot off of the gas.

Lol, Bogs I love you. I only give you a hard time because I know you're OK with it.

 

[PANDFAN]

Maybe....but you just cannot allow a WR behind you at that point of the game. See ND at Michigan.

It was so scripted....we kept trying to hit fuller on a slant and They jumped those routes and nearly picked it....Bk dialed that fake because he Said they were jumping the route...not blown coverage but just like setting up a baseball player for strike out by a pitcher

 

[Rocknes Ghost]

Last I saw the surgery was successful. She had some loss of ability with her left side I think, but was slowly regaining ability over time.

[EDIT] Seems like she's been doing pretty good: https://271miles.wordpress.com/

Has anyone verified said girlfriend?

 

[Sherm Sticky]

I don't know guys. But I have a good feeling about Kizer. I watched the game again today; after UVA scored the TD, but missed the 2 pt conversion Kizer went over to offensive line and said something like "I got this, we got this"


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[nico7980]

I don't know guys. But I have a good feeling about Kizer. I watched the game again today; after UVA scored the TD, but missed the 2 pt conversion Kizer went over to offensive line and said something like "I got this, we got this"


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I noticed that too. He seemed to not be afraid of the situation that he was in. I think he'll be good. I still don't see a 4 loss team. I'll say two losses tops. If they can come out of these first 6 games with one loss. ND will make the playoffs. I'm willing to bet all my Vbucks.

 

[FightingIrishLover7]

Does anyone else absolutely love Deshone's pocket presence? The way he carries himself in the pocket is so natural for his limited experience.

Also, his height is super nice to see.

 

[Irish#1]

Does anyone else absolutely love Deshone's pocket presence? The way he carries himself in the pocket is so natural for his limited experience.

Also, his height is super nice to see.

He didn't shy away from the situation or go into the fetal position. His height certainly is an advantage for seeing the field.

 

[Junkhead]

We are all worried about Kizer having so little game experience. The wake up call is realizing that Zaire was only on his, what, 3rd start when he got injured. That gives some hope. No hate on him at all, but he had less than 100 yds passing in the bowl vs LSU, (he was MVP tho) and was pretty mediocre before he got injured against UVA. Time for DK to step up.

 

[ThePiombino]

We are all worried about Kizer having so little game experience. The wake up call is realizing that Zaire was only on his, what, 3rd start when he got injured. That gives some hope. No hate on him at all, but he had less than 100 yds passing in the bowl vs LSU, (he was MVP tho) and was pretty mediocre before he got injured against UVA. Time for DK to step up.

True, but it's more than just that. MZ has been preparing as the #2 or better for the past couple seasons. That means less reps for DK. So while, yes, game experience is not much different at this point, prep is. That said, as long as Kizer has it between the ears, we'll be fine on that side of the ball.

 

[NDdomer2]

If we continue to not turn the ball over were gna have a chance to win the majority of our games.

 

[NDALA]

Someone posted yesterday about the fact that Kelly won 9 games with Rees in '13 and that makes me feel better. Granted Kizer doesn't have the experience that Rees had a that point but he seems to be intelligent and is much more athletically gifted. Who knows maybe that means nothing but I felt a little better about the situation after I read that. I hope Kizer does great but I'm probably more worried about the defense.

 

[Te'o4Heisman]

Someone posted yesterday about the fact that Kelly won 9 games with Rees in '13 and that makes me feel better. Granted Kizer doesn't have the experience that Rees had a that point but he seems to be intelligent and is much more athletically gifted. Who knows maybe that means nothing but I felt a little better about the situation after I read that. I hope Kizer does great but I'm probably more worried about the defense.

Yes considering with Tommy, the offense was pretty much limited to within 15 yards of the line of scrimmage, no deep outs and zero mobility I like where the team is with Kizer. Not to mention our OL is far superior in the run game to the '13 line and Will Fuller is a complete beast. We really need Alize to start getting some reps and developing into a threat from the TE position in the passing game. Our TE's have been non-existent through two games minus Luatua with some solid blocking.

 

[Butchie]

Look at the 2 Pt. conversion one more time. Look at the flush out to C.J. one more time. With the flush out to C.J. he was nervous, but converted. Built confidence. Hit Fuller for the winner. Built confidence. Then on the conversion to Hunter looked in control. Confidence is a MF. Kizer is going to be OK. Kizer is a better fit for us than Zaire.

Please never compare him to Turnover Tommy again. Kid has a real arm and is "Cerebral" as Coach Kelly said it. LOL. He's not even close to Tommy. Way better.

 

[ThePiombino]

Look at the 2 Pt. conversion one more time. Look at the flush out to C.J. one more time. With the flush out to C.J. he was nervous, but converted. Built confidence. Hit Fuller for the winner. Built confidence. Then on the conversion to Hunter looked in control. Confidence is a MF. Kizer is going to be OK. Kizer is a better fit for us than Zaire.

Please never compare him to Turnover Tommy again. Kid has a real arm and is "Cerebral" as Coach Kelly said it. LOL. He's not even close to Tommy. Way better.

I can get on board with most of this, but not so sure we can say that he's a better fit than Zaire. Can you elaborate?

 

[T Town Tommy]

Kizer looked poised enough to me to be up for the job. He drove the Irish down the field, on the road, with the crowd going crazy. He passed his first test with flying colors. Now that he is the QB, it will be a huge task for the coaching staff to put him in the best opportunities to be successful. Even if the offense is limited to a degree, there are still plenty of weapons for Kizer to use. Define his role, set plays that build his confidence, and hope he can make the right decisions based on what he is given. I think he will do just fine.

 

[Irish YJ]

Kizer looked poised enough to me to be up for the job. He drove the Irish down the field, on the road, with the crowd going crazy. He passed his first test with flying colors. Now that he is the QB, it will be a huge task for the coaching staff to put him in the best opportunities to be successful. Even if the offense is limited to a degree, there are still plenty of weapons for Kizer to use. Define his role, set plays that build his confidence, and hope he can make the right decisions based on what he is given. I think he will do just fine.

Question is, can BK keep it simple enough but still plan for a high scoring match. Early forecast is 60% rain which concerns me too. Hoping to see run heavy, and TE pass heavy. Lots of easy high percentage dumps with an occasional long and over the top toss to one of our speedsters. Just hoping we don't see a bunch of cute crap.