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Theyll cut the kids that violate thr rules and aren't as good.
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In 'unrelated' news, 12 'scout team' players are expected to be expelled for violating the OSU honor code:
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He should send Braxton Miller here.
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Damn. Cue the OSU apologists...
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Is someone going to cite the source of this claim?
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Reeves had concussions. Bogard had three torn ACLs. I can buy both of those.
Tanner was a special teamer who missed a couple games with a foot injury. I have no idea how that is career ending. He played in 12 games last years. This one screams bullshit.
And they have 3 more to go.
Tanner was a special teamer who missed a couple games with a foot injury. I have no idea how that is career ending. He played in 12 games last years. This one screams bullshit.
And they have 3 more to go.
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Well, there's always the unexpected offseason brush with the law. But the alleged perp needs to be not a very good player.
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Sorry if already asked, but with conferences guaranteeing 4 year scholarships, do these kids at least still get a full ride or are they thrown to the streets?
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Could it be a bad Lisfranc?
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If someone could Provide proof of this, I'd appreciate it so I can go to war with my coworkers.
Ohio State scholarship breakdown
Ohio State scholarship breakdown
koonja,
See phork's citation of The Ohio State's scholarship breakdown from their Land-Grant Holy Land site, which was done before NSD. I see two Joshua Perrys listed in the article and both listed as LBs. But I can only find one on their roster. If only one Perry and with K.J. Hill and Isaiah Prince committed on NSD, that would total ninety.
The Ohio State was also in pursuit - with realistic chances - of Porter Gustin and Terry Beckner, Jr.,and flipping Lawrence Cager (from Miami) and Venzell Boulware (from Tennessee)
Ohio State scholarship breakdown
koonja,
See phork's citation of The Ohio State's scholarship breakdown from their Land-Grant Holy Land site, which was done before NSD. I see two Joshua Perrys listed in the article and both listed as LBs. But I can only find one on their roster. If only one Perry and with K.J. Hill and Isaiah Prince committed on NSD, that would total ninety.
The Ohio State was also in pursuit - with realistic chances - of Porter Gustin and Terry Beckner, Jr.,and flipping Lawrence Cager (from Miami) and Venzell Boulware (from Tennessee)
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Frankly I have zero problem with this. Big Ten scholarships are guaranteed, so even the kids who more or less get cut can stay at Ohio St. on a full ride and get their degree. The argument against over signing that I've always found most persuasive is that it's completely incompatible with any sort of commitment to academics, but with guaranteed scholarships that's no longer valid. What are you guys seeing that I'm not?
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Cool so someone broke the thread... guessing it's the Manziel picture.
To zelezo vlk... he played 12 games, and I can't find any reports or surgery or it being serious. I don't know what it was but there were no reports from when it happened of it being a big deal, and no reports before him being put on medical that it was threatening his career.
To zelezo vlk... he played 12 games, and I can't find any reports or surgery or it being serious. I don't know what it was but there were no reports from when it happened of it being a big deal, and no reports before him being put on medical that it was threatening his career.
irishroo: "Frankly I have zero problem with this. Big Ten scholarships are guaranteed, so even the kids who more or less get cut can stay at Ohio St. on a full ride and get their degree. The argument against over signing that I've always found most persuasive is that it's completely incompatible with any sort of commitment to academics, but with guaranteed scholarships that's no longer valid. What are you guys seeing that I'm not?"
From the coaches and school's perspectives, they are paid to succeed. The coach's livelihood depends on his success. Outside of the comparison of different conferences having different rules, those colleges that commit to a four year scholarship have promissed the recruit a chance to earn a degree at their institution.
Oversigning can mean filling your roster based on known attrition. Or oversigning can pressure the players already on the roster. Many don't think that's a problem since college football is big business and that's the way some businesses function.
What happens is that coaches have to find ways of reducing their roster numbers and either find an excuse (e.g. medical scholarship, greyshirt, blueshirt, pressuring for transfers or cutting players at those schools who do not have four year scholarships). Without an excuse like med scholarships, for instance, I don't think a player can transition to being a regular student on scholarship in a four year scholarship institution.
Others have their bubble burst when the coach tells them they need to move on, that they no longer have a scholarship that pays their way.
Since Meyer was hired in November, 2011, The Ohio State football team has had nineteen transfers, twelve placed on medical scholarships and three players quit football over those three years. More are in the works to get them to eighty-five.
In his last three recruiting classes, he has signed seventy-four recruits. The numbers and the attrition rate deserve some scrutiny. From a player's standpoint, Cardale Jones gave his opinion in a Tweet: "Why should we have to go to class if we came here to play FOOTBALL. We ain't come to play SCHOOL classes are POINTLESS." Arguably, the player makes the university a lot of money, and is treated like an employee in a profitable business and risks loss of their job due to the pressure of oversigning and not performing as well as other players. The conclusion on the players' parts may well be paying athletes, especially if the courses and degrees are worthless.
From the coaches and school's perspectives, they are paid to succeed. The coach's livelihood depends on his success. Outside of the comparison of different conferences having different rules, those colleges that commit to a four year scholarship have promissed the recruit a chance to earn a degree at their institution.
Oversigning can mean filling your roster based on known attrition. Or oversigning can pressure the players already on the roster. Many don't think that's a problem since college football is big business and that's the way some businesses function.
What happens is that coaches have to find ways of reducing their roster numbers and either find an excuse (e.g. medical scholarship, greyshirt, blueshirt, pressuring for transfers or cutting players at those schools who do not have four year scholarships). Without an excuse like med scholarships, for instance, I don't think a player can transition to being a regular student on scholarship in a four year scholarship institution.
Others have their bubble burst when the coach tells them they need to move on, that they no longer have a scholarship that pays their way.
Since Meyer was hired in November, 2011, The Ohio State football team has had nineteen transfers, twelve placed on medical scholarships and three players quit football over those three years. More are in the works to get them to eighty-five.
In his last three recruiting classes, he has signed seventy-four recruits. The numbers and the attrition rate deserve some scrutiny. From a player's standpoint, Cardale Jones gave his opinion in a Tweet: "Why should we have to go to class if we came here to play FOOTBALL. We ain't come to play SCHOOL classes are POINTLESS." Arguably, the player makes the university a lot of money, and is treated like an employee in a profitable business and risks loss of their job due to the pressure of oversigning and not performing as well as other players. The conclusion on the players' parts may well be paying athletes, especially if the courses and degrees are worthless.
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I don't remember the exactly numbers, but I was on BP yesterday and there was a thread where they estimated they had 89ish scholarships last week. Not sure where the numbers are coming from, but that was also before they picked up 2 more on signing day and another guy a few days before that. That would put them at 92 by their count, so they're definitely going to have to drop a few between now and August. Rumor is Dunn may be transferring.
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This explanation is laughable.
"Well It's possible something happens to some kids, so what's the big deal?"
Let's pump the brakes on the Ohio State 'oversigning' panic - Land-Grant Holy Land
"Well It's possible something happens to some kids, so what's the big deal?"
Let's pump the brakes on the Ohio State 'oversigning' panic - Land-Grant Holy Land
If the bolded is true, then what's the point of a guaranteed scholly? Not really sure what the rest of this has to do with my post though...
"Without an excuse like med scholarships, for instance, I don't think a player can transition to being a regular student on scholarship in a four year scholarship institution. "
As for the guaranteed scholly question...
It's an athletic scholarship specific for the individual sport and subject to the NCAA restrictions.
As for not really sure what the rest of this had to do...
The rest of my response was responding to your question: "What are you guys seeing that I don't?"
As for the guaranteed scholly question...
It's an athletic scholarship specific for the individual sport and subject to the NCAA restrictions.
As for not really sure what the rest of this had to do...
The rest of my response was responding to your question: "What are you guys seeing that I don't?"