Where is the best HS football played?

[GoldenDomer]

Friday Night Tykes discussion got me thinking, where is the best HS football played? So much is made about Texas being the king of HS football, so I thought I would look up some numbers to challenge that.

I personally roll my eyes at the Texas hype, so I took the top 4 states in 2015; FL, GA, TX, and CA and instead of basing it off one year, I looked up the numbers to see who has produced the best talent since 2010.

2015
CA: 11
FL: 21
GA: 15
TX: 12


2014
CA: 9
FL: 15
GA: 6
TX: 13

2013
CA: 9
FL: 22
GA: 10
TX: 11

2012
CA: 10
FL: 20
GA: 10
TX: 15

2011
CA: 10
FL: 30 (Wow!)
GA: 10
TX: 11

2010
CA: 11
FL: 18
GA: 12
TX: 17

So in the last 6 years, these are the top 4 states producing Top 100 talent.

1. Florida (126)
2. Texas (79)
3. Georgia (63)
4. California (60)

So, IMO with these numbers as backup, Florida has surpassed Texas and is now producing way more talent than any other place in the country. Very impressive that out of the top 600 players, Florida produced 21% of them.

 

[bkess8]

What about the team rankings? I think that would help determine where the best football is played by showing who has the most teams rated in the top 25 nationally.

 

[GoldenDomer]

What about the team rankings? I think that would help determine where the best football is played by showing who has the most teams rated in the top 25 nationally.

I should add that too. Good point. I was mainly focused on the pure talent coming out of the state. Let me find those #'s real quick.

 

[ColinKSU]

It can't compete with Texas, Cali or Florida top-to-bottom in terms of talent, but the very top teams in my home state of Ohio are just as good as nearly anyone else in the country.

 

[kmoose]

Friday Night Tykes discussion got me thinking, where is the best HS football played? So much is made about Texas being the king of HS football, so I thought I would look up some numbers to challenge that.

I personally roll my eyes at the Texas hype, so I took the top 4 states in 2015; FL, GA, TX, and CA and instead of basing it off one year, I looked up the numbers to see who has produced the best talent since 2010.

2015
CA: 11
FL: 21
GA: 15
TX: 12


2014
CA: 9
FL: 15
GA: 6
TX: 13

2013
CA: 9
FL: 22
GA: 10
TX: 11

2012
CA: 10
FL: 20
GA: 10
TX: 15

2011
CA: 10
FL: 30 (Wow!)
GA: 10
TX: 11

2010
CA: 11
FL: 18
GA: 12
TX: 17

So in the last 6 years, these are the top 4 states producing Top 100 talent.

1. Florida (126)
2. Texas (79)
3. Georgia (63)
4. California (60)

So, IMO with these numbers as backup, Florida has surpassed Texas and is now producing way more talent than any other place in the country. Very impressive that out of the top 600 players, Florida produced 21% of them.

OR........... Those 4 states get artificially inflated rankings because the limited number of high school talent evaluators can't be everywhere at once, so they concentrate on those areas.

 

[GoldenDomer]

In the final week of the USA Today Super 25:

Florida had 3 (Booker T, Miami Central, & St Thomas)
California had 3 (Centennial, Folson, & De La Salle)
Texas had 2 (Cedar Hill & Allen)
Georgia had 2 (Colquitt & Buford)

 

[GoldenDomer]

OR........... Those 4 states get artificially inflated rankings because the limited number of high school talent evaluators can't be everywhere at once, so they concentrate on those areas.

That could be true. But those 4 states do also hold 10 of the Top 25 list that has teams from everywhere.

Although, if you say one of these states ISNT the best for HS football, I will ask you to surrender the crack pipe.

 

[kmoose]

That could be true. But those 4 states do also hold 10 of the Top 25 list that has teams from everywhere.

Although, if you say one of these states ISNT the best for HS football, I will ask you to surrender the crack pipe.

You also have to take into account that three of those states (CA, TX, FL) are the three most populous states in the country, so their numbers *should* be better. I would say that Ohio is right up there with those three. But it depends on what your criteria is. Is it just number of kids in the Rivals 100? Is it the number of NFL players? Is it the number of players per capita(adjusting for population size)? I've lived in California and Florida before. They are no more (or less) rabid about High School football than Ohio is.

 

[GoldenDomer]

You also have to take into account that three of those states (CA, TX, FL) are the three most populous states in the country, so their numbers *should* be better. I would say that Ohio is right up there with those three. But it depends on what your criteria is. Is it just number of kids in the Rivals 100? Is it the number of NFL players? Is it the number of players per capita(adjusting for population size)? I've lived in California and Florida before. They are no more (or less) rabid about High School football than Ohio is.

I understand those points, but I'm just focusing on amount of great talent coming out of those states/the elite teams that state has to offer.

I hear a lot about Ohio HS football, but this year they only had 2 kids in the top 100, with a population of about 11.5 million. Georgia had 15 with a population of about 10 million. So if you wanna talk about talent per capita, I think they're the gold standard.

 

[anarin]

Active nfl players

California - 222
Texas - 184
Florida - 170
Ohio - 81

Thats pretty much the tell all stat.

 

[kmoose]

I hear a lot about Ohio HS football, but this year they only had 2 kids in the top 100...

But they had 78 kids on NFL rosters. Good for 5th place, behind.......... wait for it............

California(224), Florida(186), Texas(147), and Georgia(91).

 

[kmoose]

Active nfl players

California - 222
Texas - 184
Florida - 170
Ohio - 81

Thats pretty much the tell all stat.

Not really........... you have to take state population into account. You would expect California to blow Rhode Island out of the water, in terms of raw numbers.

It's a very telling stat, but not the "end all, be all" of stats.

 

[Buster Bluth]

California/Texas/Florida

Georgia/Ohio

Pennsylvania/Louisiana/Alabama/New Jersey/North Carolina

 

[IrishSteelhead]

Where is the best HS football played?

IMO Florida has been #1 for awhile now, supplanting Texas in the 90's.

 

[NDTampa]

Not really........... you have to take state population into account. You would expect California to blow Rhode Island out of the water, in terms of raw numbers.

It's a very telling stat, but not the "end all, be all" of stats.

Florida has more than twice the amount of NFL players as Ohio, yet Florida doesn't have close to twice the population.

 

[kmoose]

Florida has more than twice the amount of NFL players as Ohio, yet Florida doesn't have close to twice the population.

And your point is?

I didn't say that it didn't matter. I said that it wasn't the "end all, be all" of stats. As long as we are talking about excellence...........

Ohio has 24 NFL Hall of Famers, to Florida's 11.

 

[NDTampa]

And your point is?

I didn't say that it didn't matter. I said that it wasn't the "end all, be all" of stats. As long as we are talking about excellence...........

Ohio has 24 NFL Hall of Famers, to Florida's 11.

Did I say I had a point? Or was I just stating a fact? Just curious?

 

[tussin]

I don't really think NFL success has anything to do with high school football.

 

[MNIrishman]

Friday Night Tykes discussion got me thinking, where is the best HS football played? So much is made about Texas being the king of HS football, so I thought I would look up some numbers to challenge that.

I personally roll my eyes at the Texas hype, so I took the top 4 states in 2015; FL, GA, TX, and CA and instead of basing it off one year, I looked up the numbers to see who has produced the best talent since 2010.

2015
CA: 11
FL: 21
GA: 15
TX: 12


2014
CA: 9
FL: 15
GA: 6
TX: 13

2013
CA: 9
FL: 22
GA: 10
TX: 11

2012
CA: 10
FL: 20
GA: 10
TX: 15

2011
CA: 10
FL: 30 (Wow!)
GA: 10
TX: 11

2010
CA: 11
FL: 18
GA: 12
TX: 17

So in the last 6 years, these are the top 4 states producing Top 100 talent.

1. Florida (126)
2. Texas (79)
3. Georgia (63)
4. California (60)

So, IMO with these numbers as backup, Florida has surpassed Texas and is now producing way more talent than any other place in the country. Very impressive that out of the top 600 players, Florida produced 21% of them.

It's an interesting list, but needs to be normalized to population to get a real feel for it (as is being discussed in the thread already). I also would like Ohio on there, since I believe if you normalized by population Ohio would fare better than they do in an absolute scale.

 

[ND NYC]

OP:
Your thread title asks "where is the best HS football played?" but the first post quickly morphs into: "what states have the best players?"

big difference between the two.

my hunch is that texas has the most hoopla and fanfare for HS football in general, making the overall experience "the best HS football" but the best players i would take into account the "per capita" aspects discussed above to get a true indicator of where the real studs come from (best players) as defiend by "guys in the NFL".
my huinch is that Lousiana as a % of their overall populations puts out the most NFL talent.

 

[T Town Tommy]

OP:
Your thread title asks "where is the best HS football played?" but the first post quickly morphs into: "what states have the best players?"

big difference between the two.

my hunch is that texas has the most hoopla and fanfare for HS football in general, making the overall experience "the best HS football" but the best players i would take into account the "per capita" aspects discussed above to get a true indicator of where the real studs come from (best players) as defiend by "guys in the NFL".
my huinch is that Lousiana as a % of their overall populations puts out the most NFL talent.

There was a map floating around out here a little while back iirc that showed where the talent was coming from. Maybe someone remembers which thread it was in.

 

[tussin]

I would actually disregard the Top 100 analysis and look at what state has the most 2-star and above players per capita. Any 2-star prospect is a really, really good HS player. Great HS football isn't defined by what team has the single best player, but what teams are talented top to bottom.

 

[T Town Tommy]

http://www.irishenvy.com/forums/oth...p-showing-where-college-football-players.html

KPenn started the thread a while back.

As far as hoopla... got to think Texas is at the top.

 

[IrishSteelhead]

Where is the best HS football played?

Does anyone remember when the Florida HS all-stars played the rest of the USA? Granted the selections for that game weren't indicative of that year's overall talent pool, I think it says a lot.

*Florida won BTW

 

[ND NYC]

http://www.irishenvy.com/forums/oth...p-showing-where-college-football-players.html

KPenn started the thread a while back.

As far as hoopla... got to think Texas is at the top.

i wish that map could filter out all the 1-AA football players...and have sortable results for div 1 schools (fbs)