ND to the Music City Bowl

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woolybug25 said:
Looking at their schedule, they played 5 teams with "Good" rushing attacks (Wisc, MSt, Aub, Bama & Ark) and lost 4 out of the 5. Pair that with games against Sam Houston and Louisiana Monroe skewing the stats, i'm not sure how it's reasonable to say that they have been pretty good against the run. They have been mediocre at best in regards to rushing defense. They have been elite in pass defense though.
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Put Golson under center and run the ball!
 
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T Town Tommy said:
Doubt LSU changes anything about their defense to prepare for the possibility of seeing two QBs. ND isn't going to do much that their great DC hasn't seen in the past. And while LSU is down compared to most years, they still have that allure as a top program (fair or unfair).

A couple of misconceptions about LSU. They aren't a great passing team but they are better than some give them credit for. Their QB improved greatly as the season progressed so just stacking the box against him isn't going to work. The biggest key I see for ND on defense is can they win their one on one matchup on the LOS. If they can't do that, then them guards for LSU is going to get on the LBs and that is going to make it tough for the Irish to slow that running game down. Once ND commits a safety in the box, then the LSU QB becomes much more dangerous throwing. He will miss some easy passes but he will also make enough to keep a team honest.

All in all, this is a pretty difficult matchup for ND. Not that LSU is such a great team because they aren't. But they appear to be great where ND is the weakest and that's what makes the game difficult for the Irish. The wild card.... Les Miles. Will he revert back to the Les of old and make some stupid decisions? Or will he ride what has been his most effective asset - the RB over the left tackle? I would think the Irish defense is going to see Fournette and crew a lot and can the Irish dig deep and hang in there by the middle of the third quarter? If not, then LSU can pull away as the game progresses. If the Irish can hang around, keep the LSU offense off the field more in the second half, get a turnover or two, maybe break a KO or punt return, and make it a game going in to the fourth. In the end... it's not doom and gloom for the Irish as some make it out to be. It may very well end that way... but keeping it within striking distance is possible IF the Irish can slow down that power run game and get a few breaks here and there.
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Irish#1 said:
Man, I can't remember the last time I saw so many Nancy boys in one thread. Man up gentlemen. It's an opportunity to make up for the last half of the season. We'll see how much BK learned from 2012 in preparing for a bowl opponent.
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Didn't seem like he learned much in that atrocious game against Rutgers.
 
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returnofthemack said:
Didn't seem like he learned much in that atrocious game against Rutgers.
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Some of it isn't learning. He's said for the last few years that he hasn't been able to run the practices the way he wants because of injuries. That makes sense and doesn't seem like it'll get better this year.
 
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I hate to be "Negative Nancy" on this thread but this is NOT a good matchup for ND. It is in the fact LSU doesn't have a stellar QB but the injuries we have in the trenches won't matchup well with the big nasty's of LSU.

I fear ND's injuries won't allow them to practice at a physical enough level to compete on game day. I did like BK's comments on putting reserve O-Linemen on the D-Line for practices just so they can hit but a 3rd string O-Lineman won't prepare our starters for LSU's defensive lineman. This game has me worried...
 
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IRISH in MT said:
I hate to be "Negative Nancy" on this thread but this is NOT a good matchup for ND. It is in the fact LSU doesn't have a stellar QB but the injuries we have in the trenches won't matchup well with the big nasty's of LSU.

I fear ND's injuries won't allow them to practice at a physical enough level to compete on game day. I did like BK's comments on putting reserve O-Linemen on the D-Line for practices just so they can hit but a 3rd string O-Lineman won't prepare our starters for LSU's defensive lineman. This game has me worried...
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Have you read this thread?
 
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Dizzyphil said:
Dude....point wasn't to burn him...was to give the correct info so we don't have members on the LSU side getting beer poured all over them!!!!!

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Don't go to the LSU side. Beer is the least of your worries. Drunk, fat & stupid fans with no shirts and hairy backs spitting on you and peeing into cups and throwing it at you. The guys are almost as bad.
 
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Bishop2b5 said:
Don't go to the LSU side. Beer is the least of your worries. Drunk, fat & stupid fans with no shirts and hairy backs spitting on you and peeing into cups and throwing it at you. The guys are almost as bad.
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Rudy89 said:
LSU-77 ND-0 shouldn't have even accepted a bowl we don't deserve it. I don't see how any of you think that this ass kicking is goin to b good for the program it's another humiliating defeat to make us look even worse I wish we just would've turned it down and waited till next year this is going to be worse than the USC game. Fucking sucks
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So unbelievably bad. I'm just going to call you One-Tune-Rudy, cause it's the same old song and dance with you.

* I can't disagree with you enough about not playing the bowl game. Opposing coaches, especially USC, would have an absolute field day with that. If I'm Sark, I'm telling any and every recruit even thinking about ND, that not only did we beat the **** out of ND, we ended their season and exposed them as quitters. I'm telling them, "Look, we were on the 2nd worst sanctions ever handed down by the NCAA, we had our own set of injuries AND we were without 30 scholarship players that the NCAA did not let us have (which is a massively inflated # but whatever, the recruits don't know!), and we still beat them with less players and we are still going to a bowl, less players be damned."

Imagine recruiting against USC with that knowledge, knowing that you told the entire world that you straight quit on the season bc of injuries while USC 'fought on'?? And don't even get me started on what the media would have done. Last night, we were a mere blip on the screen. They talked about our match-up with LSU, our struggles to end the season, and our ridiculous injuries. Fair, and very understated. But if we had said 'no' to a bowl, the discussion would have been vicious and downright embarrassing...it would have been a round-table topic the entire day, and would have been brought up throughout the bowl season, and into NSD when wondering about certain recruits. You know it...ND moves the needle. At least with a blow-out loss, we can point to youth and and injuries, and it won't be AS embarrassing. And it least we won't be called quitters.
 
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NDinL.A. said:
So unbelievably bad. I'm just going to call you One-Tune-Rudy, cause it's the same old song and dance with you.



* I can't disagree with you enough about not playing the bowl game. Opposing coaches, especially USC, would have an absolute field day with that. If I'm Sark, I'm telling any and every recruit even thinking about ND, that not only did we beat the **** out of ND, we ended their season and exposed them as quitters. I'm telling them, "Look, we were on the 2nd worst sanctions ever handed down by the NCAA, we had our own set of injuries AND we were without 30 scholarship players that the NCAA did not let us have (which is a massively inflated # but whatever, the recruits don't know!), and we still beat them with less players and we are still going to a bowl, less players be damned."



Imagine recruiting against USC with that knowledge, knowing that you told the entire world that you straight quit on the season bc of injuries while USC 'fought on'?? And don't even get me started on what the media would have done. Last night, we were a mere blip on the screen. They talked about our match-up with LSU, our struggles to end the season, and our ridiculous injuries. Fair, and very understated. But if we had said 'no' to a bowl, the discussion would have been vicious and downright embarrassing...it would have been a round-table topic the entire day, and would have been brought up throughout the bowl season, and into NSD when wondering about certain recruits. You know it...ND moves the needle. At least with a blow-out loss, we can point to youth and and injuries, and it won't be AS embarrassing. And it least we won't be called quitters.
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woolybug25 said:
Looking at their schedule, they played 5 teams with "Good" rushing attacks (Wisc, MSt, Aub, Bama & Ark) and lost 4 out of the 5. Pair that with games against Sam Houston and Louisiana Monroe skewing the stats, i'm not sure how it's reasonable to say that they have been pretty good against the run. They have been mediocre at best in regards to rushing defense. They have been elite in pass defense though.
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Rushing Defense Game Log - cfb stats

Ranking 89th in Tackles for Loss and 118th in Sacks, nationally, (FBS competition), I'd say their D-Line holds their own, but is not necessarily one that penetrates. We have more sacks that they do. I would bet they act to contain a QB in passing situations and primarily defend the run. A mobile QB should prevent some problems. Auburn (Marshall)-119 yds(16 att), Miss St-Prescott-105 yds (22 atts)

Overall, nationally their defense ranks 6th against first down conversions, 15th against third down conversions, and 4th in preventing long scrimmage plays.

Their opponents average 4.21 rushing yds per attempt. But almost half the rushing yards against them (1672 vs all FBS opp) were from the Wisc, Auburn and Miss St games (868 yds)
 
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If Folston and Bryant are suspended for this game, which is looking very likely, and the looming threat of scholarship reductions, those 77-0 rumors aren't looking too far fetched now.
 
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NDSean44 said:
If Folston and Bryant are suspended for this game, which is looking very likely, and the looming threat of scholarship reductions, those 77-0 rumors aren't looking too far fetched now.
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Lol we're about to get Cumberland Stated. 222-0. Geaux Tigers!!!!
 
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have a hunch that the ND faithful don't "turn out" for this one.

anyone else feel this way?

damn near every single ND fan I know, and I know a lot, who travel far and wide to ND games, is sitting this one out.

just no appetite for it this year. ND fans are spent...

predicting a 65-35 LSU to ND crowd
 
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ND NYC said:
have a hunch that the ND faithful don't "turn out" for this one.

anyone else feel this way?

damn near every single ND fan I know, and I know a lot, who travel far and wide to ND games, is sitting this one out.

just no appetite for it this year. ND fans are spent...

predicting a 65-35 LSU to ND crowd
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I can't blame them. This is by far the unluckiest team in sports history. I'm convinced, especially if the rumors about reduced scholarships comes true. I'd be done there. We have a hard enough time fielding a team as is! Now you want to reduce that even further!? Dumbass admins.
 
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