NCAA Playoff Committee Rankings 2014 (Unranked)

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For the record, I'm not saying TCU would beat Bama. Nor am I saying the opposite. I am, however, saying that on a week-to-week basis, the committee needs to be more objective and quit being so wishy-washy.

This team is ahead of that team because they have more quality wins. Margin of defeat doesn't matter, nor does margin of victory....

What about TCU/Bama?...

Well, we just feel Bama is better...


C'mon maaaan. Let the chips fall as they may, but don't set this up based on a subjective eyeball test. If they came out and said, "Look, Bama is 7-1 with a much tougher schedule to date..." I'd say, you know what. Fine. But they didn't say that. And that's my issue.

I get exactly what you are saying. And I don't really disagree with it. I am sure Jeff Long could have given a more in depth answer to the question he was asked and his choice of wording was poor if nothing else.
 

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Coach D at ISD put out pretty good update today on all this:

CFB Playoff Picture - Week 2 - Irish Sports Daily

There was some shuffling of the College Football Playoff committee’s Top 25, but there was nothing new for Notre Dame. The Irish remain No. 10 in the poll, but the reshuffling should help Notre Dame moving forward.
The first three teams remain the same with Oregon joining Mississippi State, Florida State and Auburn in the Top 4. Arizona State joined the Top 10 at the No. 9 spot, replacing Ole Miss in the Top 10. Arizona State is now one spot ahead of the Irish. This is a good thing for Notre Dame, as a victory over the Sun Devils would give Notre Dame the signature win they lack right now.

This is week two of our breakdown of teams that are in contention with Notre Dame for the first playoff in college football history.

Here is a breakdown of those teams:

1. MISSISSIPPI STATE BULLDOGS (8-0)

KEY WINS: at #16 LSU (34-29), #3 Auburn (38-23), Texas A&M (48-31)
LOSS: None

SCORING OFFENSE: 39.1 (No. 12)
SCORING DEFENSE: 20.1 (No. 20)
TOTAL OFFENSE: 522.4 (No. 8)
TOTAL DEFENSE: 434.8 (No. 89)
SCORING MARGIN: +19.0

REMAINING SCHEDULE

Nov. 8 – vs. Tennessee-Martin
Nov. 15 – at #6 Alabama
Nov. 22 – vs. Vanderbilt
Nov. 29 – at #4 Mississippi
Dec. 6 – SEC Championship Game

ANALYSIS: Mississippi State had to come from behind to beat 4-5 Arkansas, but the Bulldogs did what good teams are supposed to do, win games when you are not playing your best football. The reality is, Mississippi State’s 7-point road win at Arkansas is more impressive than Alabama’s 1-point win at the same location. Beating Arkansas was not a given, so pulling off that road win was huge for the Bulldogs. Mississippi State hosts Tennessee-Martin this weekend, which will give the Bulldogs a chance to breathe after a tough stretch. This is essentially a “get healthy” game and a glorified scrimmage as Mississippi State prepares to travel to Tuscaloosa to take on Alabama in two weeks. Mississippi State also has a road trip to Ole Miss on the docket, so there is still a lot of work to be done for them as they look to hold onto their spot at the top of the poll.

2. FLORIDA STATE SEMINOLES (8-0)

KEY WINS: #21 Clemson (23-17 OT), #10 Notre Dame (31-27), at Louisville (42-31)
LOSS: None

SCORING OFFENSE: 38.4 (No. 14)
SCORING DEFENSE: 22.8 (No. 41)
TOTAL OFFENSE: 459.0 (No. 32)
TOTAL DEFENSE: 388.6 (No. 61)
SCORING MARGIN: +15.6

REMAINING SCHEDULE

Nov. 8 – vs. Virginia
Nov. 15 – at Miami, Fla.
Nov. 22 – vs. Boston College
Nov. 29 – vs. Florida
Dec. 6 – ACC Championship Game

ANALYSIS: Florida State cleared its last major hurdle when it came from behind to beat then #25 Louisville on the road. The Seminoles were down 21-0 in the first half against the Cardinals, but they rallied late for the 42-31 win. Miami on the road is looking like a much tougher game than it did a few weeks ago, as the Hurricanes are on a three game win streak (beat Cincinnati 55-34, Virginia Tech 30-6, North Carolina 47-20). Florida’s win over Georgia was big for the Gators, who are now 4-3 with some winnable games remaining on the schedule. The Seminoles need Florida to win out, which could possibly get the Gators back into the Top 25 and give the Seminoles one more quality win. Notre Dame would need Florida State to lose twice to pass them in the polls, so at this point in time Notre Dame fans should be pulling for Florida State to win out, which would mean Notre Dame’s only loss is against the No. 2 (possibly No. 1) team on the road in a hotly contested game. It’s not as good as a quality win, but it still helps.

3. AUBURN TIGERS (7-1)

KEY WINS: at #7 Kansas State (20-14), #16 LSU (41-7), at #11 Ole Miss (35-31)
LOSS: at #1 Mississippi State (38-23)

SCORING OFFENSE: 38.8 (No. 13)
SCORING DEFENSE: 22.0 (No. 34)
TOTAL OFFENSE: 498.1 (No. 17)
TOTAL DEFENSE: 378.6 (No. 54)
SCORING MARGIN: +16.8

REMAINING SCHEDULE

Nov. 8 – vs. Texas A&M
Nov. 15 – at #20 Georgia
Nov. 22 – vs. Samford
Nov. 29 – at #5 Alabama
Dec. 6 – SEC Championship Game

ANALYSIS: Auburn racked up another very impressive win, beating then #4 Ole Miss on the road in what was a great football game. Ole Miss gave Auburn everything they could handle, something I did not think the Rebels could do, but Auburn pulled it out in the end. The win was huge for Auburn, as they now have by far the best resume of the one-loss teams. Some bad news for Auburn, their defense gave up 492 yards (7.0 per play) to an average to below-average Ole Miss offense. That’s the third straight game the Tiger defense gave up at least 469 yards and 31 points. Auburn has also allowed 498.7 yards and 34.7 points per game over their last three games. Auburn still has an extremely difficult schedule remaining. They have a home contest against Texas A&M this weekend, which should be a relatively easy win. Auburn then travels to Athens to take on Georgia, a team that is now in a must-win mode to win the SEC East. After a bye week against Samford, the Tigers travel to Alabama for the Iron Bowl. If they manage those four wins, Auburn would still need to win the SEC Championship game. If Auburn wins out they absolutely deserve to be in the playoffs. Notre Dame needs Auburn to lose one more game, hopefully against Georgia. Auburn losing to Georgia and beating Alabama would be the ideal situation for Notre Dame.

4. OREGON DUCKS (8-1)

KEY WINS: #8 Michigan State (46-27), at #22 UCLA (42-30), Washington (45-20), Stanford (45-16)
LOSS: #12 Arizona (24-31)

SCORING OFFENSE: 45.4 (No. 6)
SCORING DEFENSE: 24.8 (No. 56)
TOTAL OFFENSE: 533.8 (No. 5)
TOTAL DEFENSE: 458.6 (No. 103)
SCORING MARGIN: +20.6

REMAINING SCHEDULE

Nov. 8 – at #17 Utah
Nov. 15 – Bye Week
Nov. 22 – vs. Colorado
Nov. 29 – at Oregon State
Dec. 5 – Pac 12 Championship Game

ANALYSIS: Oregon took a huge step forward this weekend by whipping Stanford 45-16. Stanford was one of two final major hurdles before the Pac 12 title game. The win, coupled with the Ole Miss loss, vaulted Oregon into the Top 4. Although Oregon is in position to win out, there are not any more “big wins” left on the schedule. A win on the road over Utah this weekend would be a good one, but it does not compare with some of the “huge wins” that are still there for the SEC West teams to have. So Oregon is going to have to look really, really good over its final five games and cannot afford any slip ups. It would seem the only way Notre Dame can pass Oregon is if the Ducks lose another game.

5. ALABAMA CRIMSON TIDE (7-1)

KEY WINS: #23 West Virginia (33-23), Texas A&M (59-0), Florida (42-21)
LOSS: at #11 Mississippi (17-23)

SCORING OFFENSE: 36.5 (No. 18)
SCORING DEFENSE: 14.0 (No. 2)
TOTAL OFFENSE: 508.9 (No. 11)
TOTAL DEFENSE: 277.3 (No. 4)
SCORING MARGIN: +22.5

REMAINING SCHEDULE

Nov. 8 – at #16 LSU
Nov. 15 – vs #1 Mississippi State
Nov. 22 – vs. Western Carolina
Nov. 29 – vs. #3 Auburn
Dec. 6 – SEC Championship Game

ANALYSIS: Alabama gained a spot despite having a bye week, thanks to Ole Miss losing to Auburn. The Crimson Tide have a lot of big games remaining on their schedule. This weekend Alabama travels to Baton Route to take on #16 LSU. A week later Alabama hosts #1 Mississippi State before a scrimmage against Western Carolina. Alabama will end the season with a home game against #3 Auburn, and if the Crimson Tide win out they would likely play in the SEC title game. If Auburn runs the table and goes 5-0 they will almost be guaranteed a spot in the playoffs. At that point the question is what becomes of Mississippi State? That should be interesting to watch. This weekend’s game against LSU will be one of the top games to watch. Of course for Notre Dame, a LSU win would be huge.

6. TCU HORNED FROGS (7-1)

KEY WINS: #18 Oklahoma (37-33), at #23 West Virginia (31-30), Minnesota (30-7)
LOSS: at #13 Baylor (58-61)

SCORING OFFENSE: 48.0 (No. 2)
SCORING DEFENSE: 22.6 (No. 40)
TOTAL OFFENSE: 550.0 (No. 3)
TOTAL DEFENSE: 370.0 (No. 48)
SCORING MARGIN: +25.4

REMAINING SCHEDULE

Nov. 8 – vs. #9 Kansas State
Nov. 15 – at Kansas
Nov. 22 – Bye Week
Nov. 27 – at Texas (Thursday)
Dec. 6 – vs. Iowa State

ANALYSIS: Going into last weekend, TCU was resting on its win over Oklahoma. Now, with its 31-30 come from behind victory over #23 West Virginia, the Horned Frogs have two “big wins” on their resume. TCU gets another chance this weekend when it takes on #7 Kansas State. It will serve as the biggest “elimination game” of the weekend. This could be TCU’s last big test. If the Horned Frogs get past Kansas State its last big test would be a road game against 4-5 Texas. This could really be the weekend that decides whether or not TCU is a legitimate playoff team. Kansas State still has two really tough tests remaining, so Notre Dame fans should be pulling for Kansas State to pull off the victory, as the Wildcats have a tougher road to remain unbeaten.

7. KANSAS STATE WILDCATS (7-1)

KEY WINS: #15 Oklahoma (31-30), Texas (23-0), Oklahoma State (48-14)
LOSS: #3 Auburn (14-20)

SCORING OFFENSE: 38.3 (No. 15)
SCORING DEFENSE: 18.6 (No. 12)
TOTAL OFFENSE: 424.1 (No. 56)
TOTAL DEFENSE: 321.1 (No. 16)
SCORING MARGIN: +19.7

REMAINING SCHEDULE

Nov. 8 – at #6 TCU
Nov. 15 – Bye Week
Nov. 20 – at #23 West Virginia
Nov. 29 – vs Kansas
Dec. 6 – at #12 Baylor

ANALYSIS: Kansas State whipped Oklahoma State this weekend, a win that allowed them to leap Michigan State and come in at #17 in the second poll. The Wildcats have a very tough road remaining. As was noted above, Kansas State plays in an elimination game this weekend against TCU. One of those teams will likely be removed from playoff contention. With games remaining against #23 West Virginia and #12 Baylor, Kansas State could conceivably get back into the mix, but it would be tough. Kansas State is a good football team and is one of the very few teams that rank in the Top 20 nationally in both scoring offense and scoring defense. That is a big reason the Wildcats keep winning despite not having the top-to-bottom talent of most of their opponents.

8. MICHIGAN STATE SPARTANS (7-1)

KEY WINS: #15 Nebraska (27-22), Purdue (45-31), Indiana (56-17)
LOSS: at #5 Oregon (27-46)

SCORING OFFENSE: 45.5 (No. 5)
SCORING DEFENSE: 20.3 (No. 22)
TOTAL OFFENSE: 515.3 (No. 9)
TOTAL DEFENSE: 279.4 (No. 5)
SCORING MARGIN: +25.2

REMAINING SCHEDULE

Nov. 8 – vs. #16 Ohio State
Nov. 15 – at Maryland
Nov. 22 – Rutgers
Nov. 29 – at Penn State
Dec. 7 – Big 10 Championship Game

ANALYSIS: Michigan State didn’t play last weekend and they were jumped by Kansas State, who beat unranked Oklahoma State. I’m not sure how beating Oklahoma State, who isn’t very good, made the committee realize that Kansas State was now better than Michigan State. It’s also interesting that Kansas State’s only “big win” was over two-loss Oklahoma, who is currently ranked #15. Michigan State’s “big win” was over #13 Nebraska. Kansas State’s body of work is better, but it isn’t any better this week than it was last week. Michigan State gets its chance for another big win this weekend when it hosts #14 Ohio State. A win over the Buckeyes would give the Spartans two wins over Top 25 teams, which should boost their overall ranking. If the Spartans beat Ohio State they are set up for a strong finish, with road games against Maryland and Penn State to go along with a home game over Rutgers. After that it will boil down to Michigan State either getting a rematch against #13 Nebraska or a game against #25 Wisconsin.

9. ARIZONA STATE SUN DEVILS (7-1)

KEY WINS: #17 Utah (19-16), at USC (38-34), Stanford (26-10)
LOSS: #18 UCLA (27-62)

SCORING OFFENSE: 34.4 (No. 36)
SCORING DEFENSE: 24.1 (No. 49)
TOTAL OFFENSE: 483.6 (No. 22)
TOTAL DEFENSE: 385.3 (No. 58)
SCORING MARGIN: +10.3

REMAINING SCHEDULE

Nov. 8 – vs #10 Notre Dame
Nov. 15 – at Oregon State
Nov. 22 – vs Washington State
Nov. 28 – at #19 Arizona (Friday)
Dec. 5 – Pac 12 Championship Game

ANALYSIS: Arizona State won an overtime game at home over #17 Utah, which vaulted the Sun Devils up five spots to No. 9. The committee must have liked Arizona State’s resume, with quality wins over USC, Stanford and Washington as they headed into last week. With a win over a ranked them the committee went all in for Arizona State. This is actually a great thing for Notre Dame. If the Irish can go on the road and beat a Top 10 football team it would give them a huge win that right now the committee does not believe it has.

10. NOTRE DAME FIGHTING IRISH (7-1)

KEY WINS: Stanford (17-14), North Carolina (50-43), Syracuse (31-15)
LOSS: at #2 Florida State (27-31)

SCORING OFFENSE: 35.4 (No. 29)
SCORING DEFENSE: 21.6 (No. 28)
TOTAL OFFENSE: 458.3 (No. 34)
TOTAL DEFENSE: 359.1 (No. 41)
SCORING MARGIN: +13.8

REMAINING SCHEDULE

Nov. 8 – at #9 Arizona State
Nov. 15 – vs Northwestern
Nov. 22 – vs. Louisville
Nov. 29 – at USC

ANALYSIS: Notre Dame needed a fourth-quarter comeback to beat Navy, although the Midshipmen had the lead for just one possession. The concern for Notre Dame was whether or not they would get knocked down based on the win, but they did not. Notre Dame remains #10 and in good position to make a big jump this weekend. Arizona State leaped the Irish, so a Notre Dame win this weekend not only gives the Irish a huge win over a Top 10 team, it also would bump the Irish up one spot. TCU and Kansas State also play each other, and both are ranked ahead of the Irish. A Notre Dame win would also allow the Irish to jump the loser of that game. So a victory this weekend puts Notre Dame up to #8 at the very least. Notre Dame still very much has a shot at the playoffs as long as it keeps winning and handling its business.

11. MISSISSIPPI REBELS (7-1)

KEY WINS: #5 Alabama (23-17), at Texas A&M (35-20), vs. Boise State (35-13)
LOSS: at #19 LSU (10-7), #3 Auburn (35-31)

SCORING OFFENSE: 31.8 (No. 48)
SCORING DEFENSE: 13.2 (No. 1)
TOTAL OFFENSE: 426.4 (No. 55)
TOTAL DEFENSE: 327.4 (No. 19)
SCORING MARGIN: +18.6

REMAINING SCHEDULE

Nov. 8 – vs. Presbyterian
Nov. 15 – Bye Week
Nov. 22 – at Arkansas
Nov. 29 – vs. #1 Mississippi State
Dec. 6 – SEC Championship Game

ANALYSIS: Ole Miss losing to Auburn was huge for Notre Dame. I still do not understand why Ole Miss is considered such a highly ranked team. They’ve lost two games in a row but remain the No. 11 team in the country? Ahead of teams like Baylor, Nebraska and Ohio State? Ahead of a two-loss team in LSU that beat them? The committee loves Ole Miss for some reason, so seeing them get knocked off was big for the Irish. Ole Miss also suffered some devastating injuries in the game, especially the loss of wide receiver Laquan Treadwell, who is now out for the season. Ole Miss has to travel to Arkansas for what will be a tough game and they finish the season off by hosting #1 Mississippi State. I have a very hard time seeing Ole Miss passing a one-loss Notre Dame team, but with the Rebels just one spot behind Notre Dame, it is still a possibility, which to be honest is an absolute joke. Notre Dame fans should become huge Arkansas fans over the next couple of weeks, and then hope the Rebels can knock off Mississippi State in the season finale.

12. BAYLOR BEARS (7-1)

KEY WINS: #7 TCU (61-58), at Texas (28-7), at Iowa State (49-28)
LOSS: at #23 West Virginia (27-41)

SCORING OFFENSE: 50.4 (No. 1)
SCORING DEFENSE: 21.9 (No. 31)
TOTAL OFFENSE: 590.3 (No. 1)
TOTAL DEFENSE: 322.6 (No. 17)
SCORING MARGIN: +28.5

REMAINING SCHEDULE

Nov. 8 – at #15 Oklahoma
Nov. 15 – Bye Week
Nov. 22 – vs Oklahoma State
Nov. 29 – vs. Texas Tech
Dec. 6 – vs #7 Kansas State

ANALYSIS: Baylor has remained on the outskirts of the Top 10 due to his convincing loss to West Virginia. Of course, Baylor is a big victory away from making a big jump. Baylor already holds a huge win over #6 TCU. Baylor travels to Norman, Oklahoma this weekend to take on the Sooners. Right now, Oklahoma is ranked #15, and a victory this weekend would give Baylor two really good wins with the most recent win coming on the road. Baylor will also be looking for some style points against Oklahoma if it can win. TCU beat Oklahoma at home by 4, Kansas State beat Oklahoma on the road by 1. If Baylor can beat Oklahoma as soundly as it did last season (won 41-12) it would send a huge message. Baylor also has a home game against #7 Kansas State, so there will be two more opportunities for the Bears to send a message to voters.
13. NEBRASKA CORNHUSKERS (8-1)

KEY WINS: Miami (41-31), at Northwestern (38-17), Rutgers (42-24)
LOSS: at #8 Michigan State (22-27)

SCORING OFFENSE: 40.4 (No. 11)
SCORING DEFENSE: 19.7 (No. 16)
TOTAL OFFENSE: 490.6 (No. 20)
TOTAL DEFENSE: 339.8 (No. 25)
SCORING MARGIN: +20.7

REMAINING SCHEDULE

Nov. 8 – Bye Week
Nov. 15 – at #25 Wisconsin
Nov. 22 – vs. Minnesota
Nov. 28 – at Iowa (Friday)
Dec. 7 – Big 10 Championship Game

ANALYSIS: Nebraska’s resume is what is keeping it back right now. The Cornhuskers have a very good loss, a 5-point loss on the road against #7 Michigan State. Of course if anyone actually watched that game it wasn’t really that close. But on paper it looks good. What has hurt Nebraska is it lacks any good wins, but over the last three weeks Miami has whipped some opponents, which makes Nebraska’s victory over the Hurricanes look better and better. If Miami can somehow beat Florida State next weekend (Nov. 15) it could possibly vault them into the Top 25, which would be huge for Nebraska. If that does not happen, Nebraska still has three chances for quality wins. A season ending road win over Iowa would actually be a good win, although it won’t be a poll changer most likely. Next weekend, when Nebraska travels to #25 Wisconsin, is a chance for Nebraska to get another good win. A home win over Minnesota also won’t be a game changer, but it’s just one more quality win over a quality opponent. Of course, none of those games would be as big as a Big 10 title win over the winner of this weekend’s Michigan State/Ohio State game. Nebraska is going to have a tough road to get there, but they do have an outside shot at making the playoffs.

14. OHIO STATE BUCKEYES (7-1)

KEY WINS: Cincinnati (50-28), at Maryland (52-24), at Penn State (31-24)
LOSS: Virginia Tech (21-35)

SCORING OFFENSE: 45.6 (No. 4)
SCORING DEFENSE: 19.9 (No. 17)
TOTAL OFFENSE: 505.1 (No. 14)
TOTAL DEFENSE: 300.0 (No. 8)
SCORING MARGIN: +25.7

REMAINING SCHEDULE

Nov. 8 – at #8 Michigan State
Nov. 15 – at Minnesota
Nov. 22 – vs. Indiana
Nov. 29 – vs. Michigan
Dec. 7 – Big 10 Championship Game

ANALYSIS: On paper there is a lot to like about Ohio State’s resume. The Buckeyes are 7-1, they are ranked in the Top 10 in scoring offense and total defense, the Top 20 in scoring defense and total offense and the Buckeye are winning games by a margin of 25.7 points per game. But the problem for Ohio State is the fact its schedule has been a joke up to this point in time. Ohio State has zero wins over Top 25 teams, but worse yet is the fact its opponents thus far have a 33-36 combined record. Ohio State’s loss was also to a 4-5 Virginia Tech team that has lost to East Carolina, Georgia Tech, Pittsburgh, Miami, Boston College and is currently last in the ACC Coastal Division. A lot of that could change this weekend if the Buckeyes can get a road win over #8 Michigan State. Troubling for Ohio State is the fact that even if it beats Michigan State, a road game against Minnesota and home games against Indiana and Michigan won’t exactly impress voters. Notre Dame likely needs Ohio State to win this weekend in the matchup between two Top 15 teams.
 
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SEC and tiebreaker rules

SEC and tiebreaker rules

Since all of this involves how the three SEC teams finish, it's worth considering the new SEC tiebreaker rule

What's been added for the Playoff for either two or three teams tied with the same divisional records is:
G. Changed: Combined SEC record of the team’s cross-divisional opponents SEC teams play two cross-divisional teams a year.

Here are the current cross-divisional records for Alabama, Auburn and Mississippi State:

Alabama - Florida (3-3), Tenn (1-4) ---4-7

Auburn - South Carolina (2-5), Georgia (4-2) ---6-7

Miss State - Vanderbilt (0-5), Kentucky (2-4) ---2-9

Alabama has completed their cross-divisional schedule. Auburn has Georgia left to play and Mississippi State has Kentucky. Since we are assuming the division will have ties, we can assume Auburn gives Georgia a loss and Mississippi State beats Vandy. Each reduces its cross-divisional record with another loss, too.

The three teams remaining schedule is:
Alabama - LSU, Miss St, an FCS team, and Auburn.

Auburn - their FCS game, Tex A&M, Georgia and Alabama.

Mississippi State - their FCS team, Vandy, Alabama and Ole Miss.

Alabama has to win out or get a second (or third) loss.

Auburn has to win out or suffer a second loss.

Either way, the Alabama-Auburn game could be an elimination game for the Playoff. If both have won out to that point, Bama will have given Miss St a loss.

Mississippi State has to win out because their cross-divisional record is the worst.
 
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Legacy:
you need to show "A thru F" as well.

all your showing is "G" which is the last and final tie breaker if "A thru F" dont determine the champ.
 

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Legacy:
you need to show "A thru F" as well.

all your showing is "G" which is the last and final tie breaker if "A thru F" dont determine the champ.

You should be able to click on the link.
 

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The frustrating part is that when you look at rankings would you put ND ahead of FSU on a neutral site? 9/10 times I would.
 

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I'm with Bryan Driskell in wondering why Ole Miss is #11.

I mean, I know why, but it's bull shit.

Ole Miss' ranking has been SUPER inflated by a win over Alabama who has been able to cruise through the season without any worry about how much easier their schedule looks compared to everyone else. Other than Bama, Ole Miss doesn't have a single quality win. They lost to LSU who got bitch smacked by Auburn, lost Miss State, should have lost to Wisconsin, and squeaked by freaking Florida. But at the same time, at least LSU has beaten Wisconsin and OLE MISS, so why the hell is Ole Miss above LSU? Cause fucking Bama.

I think you could safely make the argument that every single team from #12 - #16 should be ranked above Ole Miss.
 
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As much as I think Bama has earned significant benefit of the doubt, I also think FSU should get that same benefit and get a #1 ranking.

I agree with the FCS comments, drop them a spot or two if they play that crap in November.

Lots of Big12 love, if there is a one loss survivor there they will make the playoffs. I can't see two making it out alive though. TCU looks like they have the best shot but it all rides on this weekend.

SEC will sort itself out, win the conference and you are in. A second team, IMO, would mean there are only 3 teams overall with one loss or less. Not happening.
 

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As much as I think Bama has earned significant benefit of the doubt, I also think FSU should get that same benefit and get a #1 ranking.

I agree with the FCS comments, drop them a spot or two if they play that crap in November.

Lots of Big12 love, if there is a one loss survivor there they will make the playoffs. I can't see two making it out alive though. TCU looks like they have the best shot but it all rides on this weekend.

SEC will sort itself out, win the conference and you are in. A second team, IMO, would mean there are only 3 teams overall with one loss or less. Not happening.

The ND argument comes in to play here. Bama has 0 top 25 wins. 1 loss. And a close win against a very bad Arkansas team that hasn't won an SEC game in like 2 years.
MissSt and OleMiss shot up the rankings by beating teams who were ranked high at the start of the year and have faded into obscurity.
 

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The committee needs to set it so if your team plays a non fbs team you do not get into the final 4 ,period. If a MLB team played a AAA team would it add wins to its record? It is rediculous. I can understand fcs teams wanting to play fbs teams but start with teams that know they don't have a chance of getting in the playoffs.

I was thinking about this, but not quite as drastically as you. I think that if you play a non-FBS opponent, it shouldn't count as a win on your record. Then at the end of the season an 11-1 team will look better than a 10-1 team who is really 11-1 but got one of their wins against a non-FBS opponent.
 

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Hell, Oregons best win is MSU. Other than that they have played no one either. This shit is maddening.
 

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The ND argument comes in to play here. Bama has 0 top 25 wins. 1 loss. And a close win against a very bad Arkansas team that hasn't won an SEC game in like 2 years.
MissSt and OleMiss shot up the rankings by beating teams who were ranked high at the start of the year and have faded into obscurity.

I don't dismiss Miss State's win against Auburn that easily. Ole Miss is a pretty solid team who had Auburn beat minus a horrible play with Treadwell. Plus, they have stockpiled a bunch of injuries that their depth hasn't been able to suck up easily. As far as Bama... we will see. Their upcoming games will decide if they belong or not. Win out and I think we get in. Lose one and I think I will just have to go outside and burn some stuff down.
 

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I really think we jump Michigan State if we both win. The Committee seems to think the B1G is a joke, and is pretty infatuated with the PAC-12.

I also think OSU is going to win for some reason. Hate OSU, but I'm rooting for them and in theory they should have more talent than MSU easily. Better for us to have OSU win, but I think we will be ahead of the winner regardless.
 
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My question is, how would TCU make the playoffs? Picture this, if TCU and Baylor both win out, then Baylor would win the Big 12 championship by virtue of head-to-head. How would the committee justify putting TCU in the spot over a team that it lost to and won the conference (a team that is behind a 2-loss Ole Miss right now mind you.). Seems like ND would pass TCU regardless. ND may not have a conference title to their name, but in this theory, neither would TCU. Preferably, this becomes a moot point, and K-State upsets TCU and then falls to someone else later.
 

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There is a scenario where you could end up with five 6-2 teams in the SEC West. And Florida could win the East... Crazy times.
 

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fuck this comittee all to hell...ND should play the Big 12 regular season champ the week after SC.

tell em we will play whoever is on top anytime and anywhere.
make it happen jack.
even if its an exhibition who cares.

time to stir some shit up the rockne way.
 

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I really think we jump Michigan State if we both win. The Committee seems to think the B1G is a joke, and is pretty infatuated with the PAC-12.

I also think OSU is going to win for some reason. Hate OSU, but I'm rooting for them and in theory they should have more talent than MSU easily. Better for us to have OSU win, but I think we will be ahead of the winner regardless.

Rooting for OSU gives me diarrhea
 

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Playoff conference implications

Playoff conference implications

and shuts out ALL the sec.

ha!

In the other conferences a leader - or two leaders - have emerged.

It's fine to boast of all the top teams in your conference as well as offer valid criticisms of non-conference schedules. But with the way the Football Playoff has been established without guaranteeing conference champions participate, a conference runs the risk of bumping each other off. especially you have three or four top teams in the same division and none in the other division.

Every conference runs that risk as well as having their conference champion not finishing in the top four. Four slots. Five conference champions (and ND) possibilities.

ND will probably never get in with two losses - but maybe any top team in a conference runs the same risk of not being included if they suffer two losses.

The way Mike Slive advocated setting this up is what all have to live with.
 
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FWIW (for some reason i am incapable of posting photos.)

https://twitter.com/SECstats/status/530206207194046464/photo/1

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Notre Dame is the only Top 10 team without a win over a currently ranked Top 25 team. <a href="http://t.co/GWkLeUt51W">pic.twitter.com/GWkLeUt51W</a></p>— Irrelevant SEC Stats (@SECstats) <a href="https://twitter.com/SECstats/status/530206207194046464">November 6, 2014</a></blockquote>
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Michigan and Stanford are absolutely killing ND this year. Think about it, the one year ND destroys UM, they still find a way to punk the IRISH. God, I hate Michigan.

Not having a win over a single team ranked in the Top 25 but still being ranked in the top 10 is exactly why people say ND is always overrated. Hopefully, ND does something to silence the critics this weekend.
 
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Michigan and Stanford are absolutely killing ND this year. Think about it, the one year ND destroys UM, they still find a way to punk the IRISH. God, I hate Michigan.

Not having a win over a single team ranked in the Top 25 but still being ranked in the top 10 is exactly why people say ND is always overrated. Hopefully, ND does something to silence the critics this weekend.

That will all change this weekend, no worries. Once they win in the desert, the arguments against ND being in the hunt for the playoff will go away. If they beat USC and Louisville, while getting hosed on a last second call to FSU, the committee will be hard pressed to keep them out. After all, they don't play FCS teams. It's going to come down to ND's entire schedule being taken into account, plus some key losses by those ahead of ND currently.
 

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In the other conferences a leader - or two leaders - have emerged.

It's fine to boast of all the top teams in your conference as well as offer valid criticisms of non-conference schedules. But with the way the Football Playoff has been established without guaranteeing conference champions participate, a conference runs the risk of bumping each other off. especially you have three or four top teams in the same division and none in the other division.

Every conference runs that risk as well as having their conference champion not finishing in the top four. Four slots. Five conference champions (and ND) possibilities.

ND will probably never get in with two losses - but maybe any top team in a conference runs the same risk of not being included if they suffer two losses.

The way Mike Slive advocated setting this up is what all have to live with.

Finebaum says Mike Slive is a great man. A great American. Sounds like Blazing Saddles to me.
 
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