Does 1 Loss End ND's Playoff Hopes?

[IRISH in MT]

It appears that getting robbed is robbing ND again! #10 with 1 loss MAY end our hopes afterall. Bunch of B.S.

 

[clashmore_jon]

i liked this article....so you're saying there's a chance?!

College Football Playoff Rankings Released, What We Learned About Notre Dame's Chances - Her Loyal Sons

 

[IRISH in MT]

Looks like our srew job at FSU is screwing ND again. The first Playoff Poll was released Tuesday night and ND sits at #10?!?! Here is the sh!tass Playoff Poll Rankings as of 10/28/2014.

1) Miss State 7-0: @ #4 Bama (11/15), @ #3 Ole Miss (11/29), SEC Chipper
2) Florida State 7-0: @ Louisville (Thurs. 10/30), @ Miami (11/15 rivals), ACC Chipper
3) Auburn 6-1: @ #3 Ole Miss (11/1), @ #9 Georgia (11/15), @ #4 Bama (11/29), SEC Chipper
4) Ole Miss 7-1: #23 LSU (10/25)*, #6 Auburn (11/1), #1 Miss St (11/29), SEC Chipper
5) Oregon 7-1: Stanford (11/1), @ #19 Utah (11/8), PAC 12 Chipper
6) Bama 7-1: @ #23 LSU (11/8), #1 Miss St (11/15), #6 Auburn (11/29), SEC Chipper
7) TCU 6-1: @ #25 West Virginia (11/1), #11 K State (11/8), @ Texas (11/27)
8) Michigan State 7-1: #12 Ohio State (11/8), Big 10 Chipper
9) K State 6-1: Texas (10/25)*, OK State (11/1), @ #10 TCU (11/8), @ #13 Baylor (12/6)
10) Notre Dame 6-1: @ #14 Arizona State (11/8), Louisville (11/22), @ #21 U$C (11/29)
11) Georgia 6-1: #6 Auburn (11/15), SEC Chipper
12) Arizona 6-1: @ UCLA (11/1), @ #19 Utah, #14 Arizona St (11/28), PAC 12 Chipper
13) Baylor 6-1: @ #18 Oklahoma (11/8), OK State (11/22), #11 K State (12/6)
14) Arizona State 6-1: @ Washington (10/25)*, #19 Utah (11/1), #8 ND (11/8), @ #15 Arizona (11/28), PAC 12 Chipper
15) Nebraska 7-1: @ Wisconsin (11/15), #24 Minnesota (11/22), Big 10 Chipper
16) Ohio State 6-1: @ Penn State (10/25)*, @ Michigan State (11/8), Big 10 Chipper
17) Utah 6-1: #21 U$C (10/25)*, @ #14 ASU (11/1), #7 Oregon (11/8), @ Stanford (11/15), # 15 Arizona (11/22)
23) East Carolina 6-1: @ Cinci (Thurs. 11/13), UCF (12/4)
24) Duke 6-1: @ Pitt (11/1), @ Syracuse (11/8), Virginia Tech (11/15), UNC (11/20), ACC

***Marshall -0: Western Kentucky (11/28)

Updated the Front Thread Page

 

[BobbyMac]

i liked this article....so you're saying there's a chance?!

College Football Playoff Rankings Released, What We Learned About Notre Dame's Chances - Her Loyal Sons

I read that earlier this morning and I think it's spot on. Everybody here needs to read NDTex's summation.

A TCU loss at WVU would probably provide us with the metric to forecast how things unfold in the future.

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[IRISH in MT]

i liked this article....so you're saying there's a chance?!

College Football Playoff Rankings Released, What We Learned About Notre Dame's Chances - Her Loyal Sons

So in summary, don't schedule any FCS games and hope to God that a few teams you beat end up in the Top 25 by year end. I like how our win over then #13 Stanford and 3 time defending Pac 12 Champion doesn't mean squat now. F'ing ACC Refs.

 

[philipm31]

Even if we beat FSU, I doubt we would get much credit for it since the rest of our schedule is looking downright horrible. I am not all that surprised to be honest. If we get a decent bowl now, then I will be surprised.

 

[T Town Tommy]

Even if we beat FSU, I doubt we would get much credit for it since the rest of our schedule is looking downright horrible. I am not all that surprised to be honest. If we get a decent bowl now, then I will be surprised.

Depends on who loses in front of you. I still think an 11-1 ND gets in. Too many others in front right now will lose another game. Win out and let it fall where it may. For the record, my Bama team is in the same boat. Win out or go home.

 

[irishfan]

Depends on who loses in front of you. I still think an 11-1 ND gets in. Too many others in front right now will lose another game. Win out and let it fall where it may. For the record, my Bama team is in the same boat. Win out or go home.

We're not in the same boat. You guys win out, you're 100% in. I can't say the same for ND.

 

[philipm31]

Depends on who loses in front of you. I still think an 11-1 ND gets in. Too many others in front right now will lose another game. Win out and let it fall where it may. For the record, my Bama team is in the same boat. Win out or go home.

No they are not. Win out and AL is totally in, and even with two losses, they will be in the argument.

ND, as usual, would have to have a perfect regular season just to get mentioned.

And to be quite honest, it is basically ND's fault that they have to depend so much on their entire schedule falling just right for them, like it did in 2012. Until the bowl game, of course.

 

[T Town Tommy]

We will see I guess. I think at 11-1 ND will have a great chance to get in. Same with Bama. Some things have to happen for that to play out but if we are both 11-1 at the end of it all, I think we both make it.

 

[irishfan]

We will see I guess. I think at 11-1 ND will have a great chance to get in. Same with Bama. Some things have to happen for that to play out but if we are both 11-1 at the end of it all, I think we both make it.

Hope so. The homer in me is projecting this playoff group:

1) 13-0 FSU
2) 12-1 Bama
3) 12-1 Oregon
4) 11-1 ND

5) 12-1 Michigan State/Ohio State winner
6) 11-2 Georgia (loss to Bama in conf champ)

I think Auburn goes 9-3 and Ole Miss/Miss State go 10-2. I don't think any team makes it out of the Big-12 with only 1-loss.

 

[IRISH in MT]

We will see I guess. I think at 11-1 ND will have a great chance to get in. Same with Bama. Some things have to happen for that to play out but if we are both 11-1 at the end of it all, I think we both make it.

I think your Bama has a better chance if they win out. The nation is in love with the SEC West. It would be wierd for a 1 loss ND not to make it. IF that happens then I am all for joining the ACC for football too.

 

[IRISH in MT]

The Irish dropped a spot in the USA Today Coach's Poll so I can't figure we will be climbing in the eyes of the Playoff Committee. Time for a Signature win this weekend on the road against a ranked team!

*Playoff Rankings as of 10/28/2014.

1) Miss State 7-0: @ #4 Bama (11/15), @ #3 Ole Miss (11/29), SEC Chipper
2) Florida State 7-0: @ Miami (11/15 rivals), ACC Chipper
3) Auburn 6-1: @ #9 Georgia (11/15), @ #4 Bama (11/29), SEC Chipper
***#4 Ole Miss is 7-2 after losing to Auburn
5) Oregon 7-1: @ #19 Utah (11/8), PAC 12 Chipper
6) Bama 7-1: @ #23 LSU (11/8), #1 Miss St (11/15), #6 Auburn (11/29), SEC Chipper
7) TCU 6-1: #11 K State (11/8), @ Texas (11/27)
8) Michigan State 7-1: #12 Ohio State (11/8), Big 10 Chipper
9) K State 6-1: @ #10 TCU (11/8), @ #13 Baylor (12/6)
10) Notre Dame 6-1: @ #14 Arizona State (11/8), Louisville (11/22), @ #21 U$C (11/29)
***#11 Georgia is now 6-2 after losing to Florida
***#12 Arizona is now 6-2 after losing to UCLA
13) Baylor 6-1: @ #18 Oklahoma (11/8), OK State (11/22), #11 K State (12/6)
14) Arizona State 6-1: #8 ND (11/8), @ #15 Arizona (11/28), PAC 12 Chipper
15) Nebraska 7-1: @ Wisconsin (11/15), #24 Minnesota (11/22), Big 10 Chipper
16) Ohio State 6-1: @ Michigan State (11/8), Big 10 Chipper
***#17 Utah is now 6-2 after losing to ASU
***#23 East Carolina is now 6-2 after losing to Temple
24) Duke 6-1: @ Syracuse (11/8), Virginia Tech (11/15), UNC (11/20), ACC

***Marshall -0: Western Kentucky (11/28)

 

[philipm31]

So we need MSU and KSU to lose this weekend. A Baylor loss would be nice too. That might clear some of the dead wood in front of us.

I am hoping we get a "New Year's Day Bowl", if we do not get into the CFP.

 

[philipm31]

Sadly, once we beat ASU, they will miraculously become unranked.

 

[koonja]

Sadly, once we beat ASU, they will miraculously become unranked.

So us beting ASU vs. MSU beating OSU is a push (although you could argue our win is better because it's on the road).

How would the committee stack up OSU beating MSU vs. us beating ASU? Really, there's not much difference (4 spots in the poll), but something tells me they'd value that win way more than us beating ASU.

Anyone else feel that way?

 

[Black Irish]

So us beting ASU vs. MSU beating OSU is a push (although you could argue our win is better because it's on the road).

How would the committee stack up OSU beating MSU vs. us beating ASU? Really, there's not much difference (4 spots in the poll), but something tells me they'd value that win way more than us beating ASU.

Anyone else feel that way?

I'll actually have a little faith here. If both ND and OSU win, I don't see the Buckeyes jumping the Irish.

 

[koonja]

I'll actually have a little faith here. If both ND and OSU win, I don't see the Buckeyes jumping the Irish.

I hope you're right. I'm hoping Wisconsin gets to the champ game and upsets either and I think they'll have a shot. On Wisconsin!

 

[philipm31]

I'll actually have a little faith here. If both ND and OSU win, I don't see the Buckeyes jumping the Irish.

By the end of the year, they might, especially when they win the B10 title.

But this weekend, if OSU and ND both win, we would stay ahead of them.

But unless USC is ranked in the top 15 by the time we play them, we won't get much credit for this schedule.

 

[CarrollVermin]

Moved to ASU game thread.

 

[stlnd01]

By the end of the year, they might, especially when they win the B10 title.

But this weekend, if OSU and ND both win, we would stay ahead of them.

But unless USC is ranked in the top 15 by the time we play them, we won't get much credit for this schedule.

If USC keeps winning, they'll be 8-3 coming off a win over UCLA when we play them. Should be Top 20 at least.

 

[IRISH in MT]

Sadly, once we beat ASU, they will miraculously become unranked.

So us beting ASU vs. MSU beating OSU is a push (although you could argue our win is better because it's on the road).

How would the committee stack up OSU beating MSU vs. us beating ASU? Really, there's not much difference (4 spots in the poll), but something tells me they'd value that win way more than us beating ASU.

Anyone else feel that way?

No kidding philipm31...just our luck they will fall off the face of the earth like Stanford did.

I agree koonja, I don't think they like ND and will make us "earn" that 4th spot by process of elimination. Here is to hoping we beat ASU this weekend and somehow Louisville and USC are ranked when we play them.

 

[philipm31]

If USC keeps winning, they'll be 8-3 coming off a win over UCLA when we play them. Should be Top 20 at least.

And then they drop out of the Top 25. We will never get enough respect for this schedule.

 

[Wild Bill]

By the end of the year, they might, especially when they win the B10 title.

But this weekend, if OSU and ND both win, we would stay ahead of them.

But unless USC is ranked in the top 15 by the time we play them, we won't get much credit for this schedule.

They have three lay ups after MSU (Minn, IU and Michigan) and a title game against an opponent that won't be ranked very high. I doubt it'll be enough to overcome a brutal loss at home to VTech.

 

[philipm31]

They have three lay ups after MSU (Minn, IU and Michigan) and a title game against an opponent that won't be ranked very high. I doubt it'll be enough to overcome a brutal loss at home to VTech.

Point is we literally have almost no shot at the top 4, even if the OSU win does not matter as much as you feel it does.

 

[IRISH in MT]

Point is we literally have almost no shot at the top 4, even if the OSU win does not matter as much as you feel it does.

At first with the way we lost and who and where we lost at, I thought there was no way a 1 loss ND was kept out of the playoff. After getting leap frogged by more teams last night in the latest Playoff Poll, I think we are doomed. I do like the fact ASU is ranked ahead of us for this weekend's game but other than U$C being ranked, we don't have the firepower wins the Committee is looking for.

 

[nd_fan]

If we can beat ASU by a large margin, that may get us farther ahead in the rankings.

 

[NDJimmy]

Scheduling is such a crap shoot. Before the season this looked like a tough schedule but our opponents have let us down.
Before the '43 & '89 seasons people probably didn't anticipate the collective opponents' records.
It's cyclical and future ND schedules will be good enough to get ND into the playoff.

 

[IRISH in MT]

Scheduling is such a crap shoot. Before the season this looked like a tough schedule but our opponents have let us down.
Before the '43 & '89 seasons people probably didn't anticipate the collective opponents' records.
It's cyclical and future ND schedules will be good enough to get ND into the playoff.

Agreed. It was #1 toughest schedule in August. I love how all the doubters said we couldn't win more than 9 games with as tough as schedule as ND had. Now they are turncoats claiming all our games are easy. B.S. if you ask me. Even Rice won their conference last year and that is the smallest conference we've played.