Post Game Observations Stanford '14

[tko]

Shaw=swollen vagina, still!!!!

 

[dublinirish]

2014 #14 Stanford at #9 Notre Dame | Noonkick

full game replay chapeaus

 

[Senoj13]

I guess there's a rule the band can only play so long once they reset the play clock, after one warning there's a penalty. There was one warning.

NBC gave a decent definition of the rule. Apparently, the band needs to stop playing once the play clock gets down to 15 seconds. Same goes for stadium music. Band was still playing at the 10 second mark and Shaw freaked out.

 

[TheOneWhoKnocks]

I dont recall what elmer did on left side of line last year. All I know is that he doesnt belong on the field at R Tackle or Guard. Hes been bad every game.

 

[dublinirish]

Watching the tape Elmer seems to be carrying too much weight around his mid section. A kid that tall shouldn't be that sloppy looking.

 

[#1rish]

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3:40 is just awesome

 

[Bogtrotter07]

No disagreement there. I was referring to the the times they got pushed back or made contact, but couldn't get any movement where strength and leverage come into play. The planned QB draw is the best example. Great call by BK and it looked like EG could pick up a huge chunk until Elmer got handled.

All right! Since everyone keeps talking about it. The play everyone keeps referring to is the designed quarterback draw that Kelly called. Yes, Elmer looked terrible when the camera showed him on that play. But he had a defender moving to where a defender saw the stationary quarterback on that play. The hole had been open. And was open long enough for Golson to make it through. But Golson really hesitated too long on that one. Elmer, not having a clue as to what was going on at that time, let the defender walk around him. Which would have been fine if the quarterback was headed up field. But he wasn't. So the whole thing looked stupid. But it was an all involved, not just Elmer!

 

[PANDFAN]

Thanks

the band and stadium music must stop by time the play clock reaches 15sec unless they haven't broken the huddle...

 

[GoldenBoy3]

I saw someone said it, but we played our 2nd worst game of the year and beat a very solid Stanford team. In a week were many ranked teams lost, you just have to be pleased with surviving.

1. I thought Golson was decent. He threw a lot of balls behind is receivers, and was late on some reads. He still has that tendency to try and do too much, and winds up putting the ball in some bad places. All in all, he stuck it together and lead the team on that final drive.

2. I know Stanford has a great D Line, but our O Line is just inept. They can protect Golson, and they cant create running lanes.

3. Im a fan of McDaniel, but I think we all know that Bryant is a stud back. With that said how can we expect him to progress and get production with only a few carries a game. McDaniel is a fierce back who will get those tough yards, but there is no home run factor there. Bryant needs his carries, and this team needs to develop some sort of a running game.

4. Lastly I had a lot of hope for Chris Brown this year, just hasn't become the WR I thought he would. And you also have to love that huge Golson run when he wrapped to arms over the ball.

Oh well, GO IRISH!

 

[Grahambo]

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3:40 is just awesome

"There's an all out blitz! The whole world is coming!"

 

[dmort]

I don't know if this video of Koyack's catch has been posted.This video has an excellent view of the play and sheer pandemonium afterwards.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sVZ3M3M8uKk

 

[#1rish]

 

[ab2cmiller]

I don't know if this video of Koyack's catch has been posted.This video has an excellent view of the play and sheer pandemonium afterwards.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sVZ3M3M8uKk

Someone needs to put a GoPro on their head at one of those moments and then be lifted up in the stands for the push ups. That would be a cool shot.

 

[JughedJones]

I don't know if this video of Koyack's catch has been posted.This video has an excellent view of the play and sheer pandemonium afterwards.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sVZ3M3M8uKk

That's just awesome!

I love how everyone starts jumping up and down pointing at the wide open Koyack. What great seats for that play!

 

[BobD]

Absolutely awesome.

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[irish1958]

The three Stanford D-linemen are all fifth year seniors as is an ILB. To expect our young, inexperienced and reshuffling line to dominate them is not realistic. These guys are 23 or 24 years old and have had five years of top college weight training and conditioning, in addition to being great athletes. Elmer is a real sophomore, and is giving up three years of experience, conditioning and development and has been given a major position change in the last two weeks.
In addition Standord does real red shirting which means that they have five years to graduate, making their academic load considerably easier than ours.
Notre Dame must remove the four year graduation requirement. This alone would be in keeping with almost all college programs (?except the service academies) and reduce the academic load by 20% (120/12=10; 120/15=8) with no change in graduation rate or academic excellence. And it would remove the embarrassing sham of graduate school eligibility we require. How many of our fifth year eligible graduate students obtain an advanced degree?
This is a self-imposed handicap which has no value.

 

[irish1958]

And we out-gained them by 100 yards! On the ground.

 

[IrishLion]

All right! Since everyone keeps talking about it. The play everyone keeps referring to is the designed quarterback draw that Kelly called. Yes, Elmer looked terrible when the camera showed him on that play. But he had a defender moving to where a defender saw the stationary quarterback on that play. The hole had been open. And was open long enough for Golson to make it through. But Golson really hesitated too long on that one. Elmer, not having a clue as to what was going on at that time, let the defender walk around him. Which would have been fine if the quarterback was headed up field. But he wasn't. So the whole thing looked stupid. But it was an all involved, not just Elmer!

I gotta disagree with this.

The defender went straight through Elmer with a bull-rush; Elmer did not let the defender "walk around him." Elmer is supposed to make an outside rush as easy as possible on the defender on that play, but he got driven straight through instead.

And yes there was a wide open hole, but it was closed when Elmer got blown up directly into the middle. I don't think Golson waited too long at all. If anything, he went too quickly. If he would've waited a bit longer, he might have seen Elmer get mauled and been able to go to the right rather than straight into Elmer's back.

And I promise I'm not trying to pile on. Stanford's front 7 is no joke. But Hegarty has to do better against the finesse-type of pass rush moves that caused him problems all day on Saturday, and I think Elmer just needs a shot of confidence to get him out of his funk. He's too big and too gifted physically to get dominated like he did at times on Saturday.

 

[irish1958]

Elmer is also too tall to be a guard. At 6'6" he looses the leverage he needs to handle the bull rushes.

 

[ab2cmiller]

Got a chuckle from Pat McAfee's tweet

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Just heard <a href="https://twitter.com/SergioBrown38">@SergioBrown38</a> joyously screaming like an adolescent thru the halls of the hotel..That can only mean 1 thing..Congrats <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/NotreDame?src=hash">#NotreDame</a></p>— Pat McAfee (@PatMcAfeeShow) <a href="https://twitter.com/PatMcAfeeShow/status/518539572180185088">October 4, 2014</a></blockquote>
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[wizards8507]

I think everyone is being too hard on the offensive line when it comes to pass protection. Many of the pocket breakdowns were the result of Golson dancing around and changing the pursuit angle of the defender to one that the linemen weren't expecting. I'm not blaming Golson for this per se, but it's something that happens when you have a QB who wiggles around back there.

That said, I think the run blocking criticism is very fair.

 

[dublinirish]

I think everyone is being too hard on the offensive line when it comes to pass protection. Many of the pocket breakdowns were the result of Golson dancing around and changing the pursuit angle of the defender to one that the linemen weren't expecting. I'm not blaming Golson for this per se, but it's something that happens when you have a QB who wiggles around back there.

That said, I think the run blocking criticism is very fair.

so basically you want Tommy Rees back?

 

[wizards8507]

so basically you want Tommy Rees back?

Sadly, I've been accused of such nonsense sentiment many times with no italics.

 

[dublinirish]

Sadly, I've been accused of such nonsense sentiment many times with no italics.

Aha! There is truth to what you say though. Some mobile QB's due to tend to "run into" sacks a more unathletic pocket qb might no let happen. I guess with a QB like Golson you have to take the rough with the smooth, he might take more sacks but he's also gonna avoid some and make plays on the perimeter.

 

[ab2cmiller]

BK's comments about the offensive line and specifically Elmer. Contrary to what most of us believe, he seems very happy with Elmer.
An Interview with Coach Kelly - UND.COM - University of Notre Dame Official Athletic Site

Q. Good afternoon, Coach. It seems with the realignment of the offensive line, you last week had to go into a bit of a frying pan with Syracuse and the different looks they presented. Then go into the fryer was Stanford with their defense. What's been your assessment of how that realignment has gone? I know you said on the last possession they really started picking up some of the combinations and all. After reviewing the tape, where do you think the line is at this point?

COACH KELLY: We got stronger as the game went along. I think Steve Elmer did some very good things as the game went on. Anderson, 91, is very difficult to handle. Elmer was able to block him one on one late in the game, which was huge for us. Nobody else has been able to do that. Hanratty was able to do some things in pass pro later in the game that he had missed earlier. So there was some progress made there.

 

[ulukinatme]

anyone explain why cam was in so much? I love the kid but was disappointed we didnt see more of the other guys.

We weren't going to be breaking home runs against Stanford's defense, we needed consistency and no turnovers. Cam played well despite the poor blocking against a tough front seven. He had the longest run of any of the backs.

3. Im a fan of McDaniel, but I think we all know that Bryant is a stud back. With that said how can we expect him to progress and get production with only a few carries a game. McDaniel is a fierce back who will get those tough yards, but there is no home run factor there. Bryant needs his carries, and this team needs to develop some sort of a running game.

Cam still gets big chunk plays when our line blocks well. Greg needs to learn to be more decisive, too much dancing around Saturday and not getting east and west. Getting east and west is what Cam does well. Greg still has to hone the other parts of his game too.

Cam is the most decisive back and best pass blocker. He's also deceptively strong and breaks a lot of tackles. My humble opinion is that he was the best back to use against the Stanford D

Yup. I expect we'll see more of Tarean and Greg against North Carolina, but Cam was the right choice Saturday.

OL: This is a problem. Back to back great recruiting classes and this is as good as ND can do? Are none of the OL from the '13 class good enough to replace Hegarty? Thank goodness for Ronnie Stanley. My patience with Steve Elmer is being tested.

They may still need time to develop. Many linemen don't come into their own until their Junior and Senior years. It's different than skill positions, much harder to unseat upperclassmen as a lineman unless you're a real stud and the depth ahead of you is weak.

Does anyone have audio from the radio call on Koyack's winning TD? Would love to hear Pinkett's call...

Meh, would rather hear Tony Roberts still, hearing him call that play would have been awesome.

 

[Bogtrotter07]

BK's comments about the offensive line and specifically Elmer. Contrary to what most of us believe, he seems very happy with Elmer.
An Interview with Coach Kelly - UND.COM - University of Notre Dame Official Athletic Site

Q. Good afternoon, Coach. It seems with the realignment of the offensive line, you last week had to go into a bit of a frying pan with Syracuse and the different looks they presented. Then go into the fryer was Stanford with their defense. What's been your assessment of how that realignment has gone? I know you said on the last possession they really started picking up some of the combinations and all. After reviewing the tape, where do you think the line is at this point?

COACH KELLY: We got stronger as the game went along. I think Steve Elmer did some very good things as the game went on. Anderson, 91, is very difficult to handle. Elmer was able to block him one on one late in the game, which was huge for us. Nobody else has been able to do that. Hanratty was able to do some things in pass pro later in the game that he had missed earlier. So there was some progress made there.

I tried earlier to distinguish early season line play, from playing against Stanford, by pointing out how much better ND did on Saturday, than Stanford's other opponents this year, including SC who also won by 3 points. But no one seems interested.

We have a young team and so many want to find something wrong with them.

 

[RDU Irish]

Learning on the job against the top defense in he country. Fair points by Kelly that he recognizes they had a tough opponent and getting owned on some level was going to be in the cards regardless.

Or it could be just nice talk b/c he is afraid of making a known problem worse by bruising egos.

 

[irish o'phile]

Rewatching the game

Mayock is a prick. He has a crush on Stanford (excluding Hogan)and talks alot of ish about ND.

We out toughed them. Our D looked better/ more physical than theirs. Pretty awesome thing to see given the fact that it is Stanford. We are way faster too.

Eye test says we should have won by more.

 

[Riddickulous]

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This guy had the best seat in the house.