'12 IN QB Gunner Kiel (Cincinnati Transfer)

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loomis41973 said:
Looks GREAT....over 300 qb rating.

Kiel is the real deal.
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Not how I saw it, at all.

The receivers are all WIDE open, and ZERO pass rush by Toledo.

Yes, he did a good job of at least hitting these wide open receivers.

But did you notice how pin point accurate Golson needed to be, during the Michigan game?

And every receiver was in full motion.

The Cincy receivers pretty much just sat there, waiting for the pass, with the only exception being the last touchdown pass of the first half.

Seriously, I am not trying to rip the kid, but you cannot possibly even compare Kiel's performance, versus the Toledo defense, to Golson's, vs Michigan's.

Toledo did make some defensive adjustments, the second half.
 
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ndftbl said:
Not how I saw it, at all.

The receivers are all WIDE open, and ZERO pass rush by Toledo.

Yes, he did a good job of at least hitting these wide open receivers.

But did you notice how pin point accurate Golson needed to be, during the Michigan game?

And every receiver was in full motion.

The Cincy receivers pretty much just sat there, waiting for the pass, with the only exception being he last touchdown pass of the first half.

Seriously, I am not trying to rip the kid, but you cannot possibly even compare Kiel's performance, versus the Toledo defense, to Golson's, vs Michigan's.

Cincy did make some defensive adjustments, the second half.
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Poor defensive adjustments.
 
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I don't think anybody compared tonight to Golson last week. I'm firmly entrenched in the camp that was impressed with his outing, and happy he had a stellar debut.
 
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Possibly The 2006 Michigan State vs. Northwestern game when Spartans rallied to score 38 unanswered points to win 41–38 after trailing 38–3 with 9:54 left in the 3rd quarter.
 
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Shamrocks and Shenanigans said:
Glad to see Gunner found a home and is killing it on his first collegiate start.
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Just don't see it that way, at all.

The entire first half, his receivers were all WIDE open, and absolutely no pass rush.

He did do a good job of at least hitting these wide open receivers.
 
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ndftbl said:
Just don't see it that way, at all.

The entire first half, his receivers were all WIDE open, and absolutely no pass rush.

He did do a good job of at least hitting these wide open receivers.
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What could he have done to change your outlook?
 
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Awww hell. I was liking Gunner and rooting for him, but it just dawned on me that he looks like Rickety Cricket from 'Always Sunny' and now I hate him. Go Toledo.

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Kiel doesn't have the chest to he rooted against.

I can't use italics on my phone
 
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ndftbl said:
Just don't see it that way, at all.

The entire first half, his receivers were all WIDE open, and absolutely no pass rush.

He did do a good job of at least hitting these wide open receivers.
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Toledo has a terrible defense, allowing the receivers to be wide open, but Gunner's state line is still impressive. I'm not putting him up for the Heisman, but you gotta give him a little credit.
 
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He toyed with ND for over two years. Publicly said he was fine redshirting (and that he never even thought of transferring), and then transferred despite the incredible opportunity he had at ND to go to Cincinnati. How is this any better than Vanderdoes, Greenberry, Darby? If anything it is worse because he didn't want to be here, but took up a scholarship for a year and left a hole in the depth chart when he left. I am hoping for a pick six every time he throws it. Same situation as Lynch.
 
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'12 IN QB Gunner Kiel (Cincinnati Transfer)

IMO he personally never wanted to be at ND to begin with, but was appeasing outside influences (read: Mom). It is what it is, people will be vehemently against him now, for him, or indifferent.
 
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IrishSteelhead said:
What could he have done to change your outlook?
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Just don't think you can measure a QB, at all, when his receivers are all wide open, and no pass rush.

Golson, on the other hand, had to make pinpoint passes vs Michigan, to receivers who were always closely covered.

Like watching your daughter light it up on the soccer field, vs a weak opponent.

Wait till she plays the good team, to judge her performance.
 
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