Rioting in St Louis

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Cop threatened to shoot a reporter on camera.

Brown was shot 6 times, twice in the head.

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Rather be wearing a mask than being an 8 year old getting hit with tear gas, the tear gas they said they wouldn't use.
 

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Rather be wearing a mask than being an 8 year old getting hit with tear gas, the tear gas they said they wouldn't use.

We don't know what happened. I can only imagine the horrors of being shot at in a gas mask with a hostile crowd in front of you.
 

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Rather be wearing a mask than being an 8 year old getting hit with tear gas, the tear gas they said they wouldn't use.

2 things.... 1) why would a responsible parent allow their 8 year old out there at 10pm on a school night? 2) that livestream video doesn't show much. Can't with certainty say it's directed at him not to mention he was roaming around in areas the media was told to stay out of for their safety.

Why can't these protesters just stay out of the street? That's one of the primary issues, that they are interrupting traffic flow.
 

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2 things....

Why can't these protesters just stay out of the street? That's one of the primary issues, that they are interrupting traffic flow.

If people could stay off the street, we wouldn't have this mess.
 

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That's right! No and I mean no good parent would let their under 18 year old (and that's pushing it) would let their child stay outside during a riot or "gathering'. That's fucking garbage!
 

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The convenient store that Brown allegedly robbed is now on fire. You're not helping your cause, "protesters".
 
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2 things.... 1) why would a responsible parent allow their 8 year old out there at 10pm on a school night? 2) that livestream video doesn't show much. Can't with certainty say it's directed at him not to mention he was roaming around in areas the media was told to stay out of for their safety.

Why can't these protesters just stay out of the street? That's one of the primary issues, that they are interrupting traffic flow.

The gassing started suddenly at 8 or 9, and this is important. I bet schools might still be closed.

There is no traffic flow since no one is driving, and it's the only place to have rallies of this size.
 

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The convenient store that Brown allegedly robbed is now on fire. You're not helping your cause, "protesters".

And jackasses on this thread are wringing their hands about the use of tear gas on these "peaceful demonstrations."
 

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I don't understand how people don't get that there are protesters and looters that are two separate groups.

There's nothing to protest! Protest at City Hall or wherever the hell, but do it at 1:00 PM on a Tuesday, not in the middle of the night to no one in particular. Also, if you're one of the "peaceful" ones, vocally and physically distance yourself from the thugs.

Another thing: Arson is not the same as looting. Looters are thieves. Arsonists are just violent for violence's sake.
 

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The gassing started suddenly at 8 or 9, and this is important. I bet schools might still be closed.

There is no traffic flow since no one is driving, and it's the only place to have rallies of this size.

I've been watching live since about 8-8:30. There were plenty of cars trying to get through W Florissant Ave but couldn't due to the "protesters". I don't care what time it is, you shouldn't have an 8 year old at a protest that is so enraged with passion and anger. The locals knew there was a much different pulse and higher tension last night. No reason for children to be anywhere near this event.

I know there is a difference between the looters and protesters but if you saw the "protesters" tonight, you know they were one in the same. Jumping, taunting, and baiting the police is not a peaceful protest.
 

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Well good luck! As a person who experienced the LA riots, there is no difference. They did not care what they did or were doing. It was just an excuse. I hate to say it. Ask any one from that eRa!!!!
 

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Hopefully everyone sees now why the police responded with such a strong SHOW of force when all this started..

Every one needs to go home.
 
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One of the entry wounds was through the right palm.

Staying indoors means giving up. A constant presence is needed to show that they won't let them be discouraged and it gives a continued call for justice. You could have told the Selma protesters to stay indoors as well.
 

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I'm about 20 min south of Ferguson. Not dangerous around here but there have been reports of random whites being targeted with violent crime through the city. Just to be safe, I've brought my Sig a little closer to the bed over the past week.
 
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Rally in support of Ferguson officer

^This is a peaceful rally. My buddy actually worked crowd control for this one and he said they stayed on the sidewalks, didn't impede traffic, and no police felt in harms way. Ferguson should take note.

The quotes from that rally are racist and garbage. They don't have any quarrel with cops when they are on the same side. The cops wouldn't gas them after saying they won't use gas. Cops didn't shoot one of their residents.
 

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The quotes from that rally are racist and garbage. They don't have any quarrel with cops when they are on the same side. The cops wouldn't gas them after saying they won't use gas. Cops didn't shoot one of their residents.

The quotes from Sharpton and the pro-Brown rallies are racist and garbage....
 

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They should just declare marshal law on Ferguson, the people of the town clearly don't want peace. Bring in the Guard if necessary.
 
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>"RIOT POLICE WALKING THROUGH NEIGHBORHOODS SHOOTING GAS AT PEOPLE ON THEIR OWN PROPERTY. " <a href="https://t.co/l343HmRSjM">https://t.co/l343HmRSjM</a></p>— southpaw (@nycsouthpaw) <a href="https://twitter.com/nycsouthpaw/statuses/501235130707771392">August 18, 2014</a></blockquote>
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No it hasn't. There has been support from multiple races and ethnic groups in Ferguson while the pro-cops rally was all white except for one dude.

you should go burn down ur local gas stations in support of whatever it is ur supporting
 

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Capt Johnson Briefing 1:15 am Monday

Good morning I want to tank all law enforcement agencies for their support and fine work tonight protecting the citizens of Ferguson.

A Sunday that started with prayer, me messages of unity and peace and justice took a very different turn after dark. Molotov cocktails were thrown, there were shootings, looting, vandalism and other acts of violence that clearly appear not to have been spontaneous but premeditated criminal acts designed to damage property, hurt people, and to provoke a response. The catalyst was not civil disobedience but preplanned agitation and aggression, coordinated in many cases.

When Gov Nixon and Carla (sp?) Fogel first assigned me the task to help restore order to Ferguson the basic principles were to protect people's ability to make their voices heard. While keeping this community safe we needed to protect the good people of Ferguson, their businesses, and their property. That's why earlier tonight we were walking with and listening to the peaceful protestors voicing their frustration in a way that doesn't put others in personal danger. That's also why when we saw violent acts including shootings and the throwing of Molotov Cocktails and the destruction of businesses we had to act to protect lives and property. The first started to deteriorate with the shooting of a civilian on W. Florisant and Ferguson Avenue at approx 8:25 pm. We quickly responded with additional officers to reach the victim and got them to a safe position.

That was followed by shots being fired on officers, a number of Molotov Cocktails being hurled, a looting and vandalism of a numof businesses including Domino's Piazza, a Rally's auto parts store, Dollar store, and a self storage business. All were on W. Florissant.




N.B. I (BGIF) had this on DVR but my repeated stopping and backing up reset the DVR erasing the quotes. Sorry.


Timeline:

Citizen shot at 8:20 pm

Gunshots and Molotov cocktails thrown

8:28 report of 8 people wth guns. Tactical police were sent in response

I asked for ...

9:15 large crowd gathering

9:20 report McDonald's overrun

I had to increase response to act to protect lives and property.

For that that say the curfew cause this note that the shooting and Molotov Coctails started three and a half hours before the curfew went into effect.

Tonight by teleconference call between myself, the Chief of Police St Louis Co, Chief of Police St Louis City, and the Governor, we are planning additional steps to halt the violence.



Press Q&A
Two or three people injured.

National Guard? No not at this time.

Seven or eight arrests for failure to disperse.


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No justice no peace


Are you really this obtuse?

The investigation has to conclude, the DA has to take it to Grand Jury, and if an indictment is returned, a trial. It's not happening this weekend, so burn the neighborhood down. Aren't you fucking clever. Oh, and if a Special Prosecutor is appointed add to the timeline to get up to speed.


Do you even try to follow events or just post crap?

The level of violence increased tonight

Tonight Captain Johnson, black State police officer, in charge, who you have praised for restoring peace by replacing the white local chief of police, stressed the peaceful nature of the protest and the police walking with along the protestors until OTHERS started shooting and throwing rocks and Molotov Cocktails. Capt Brown praise ALL the law officers envolved tonight for protecting citizens and property. Captain increased the police presence and level of response to the increasing level of violence that successfully derailed the peaceful demonstration.


The violence tonight will beget an even bigger police presence. But then that's what a small sector really wants. Violence not resolution.
 

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Michael Brown Autopsy Finds Six Shots Struck Teen; - WSJ

By JOE BARRETT And MATTHEW DOLAN
Updated Aug. 18, 2014 12:58 a.m. ET

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The family autopsy was conducted by a former NYC M.E.

Findings:

GSWs to head likely cause of death

Six gunshot wounds, all to the front of the body. One to the top of the head, one to the forehead, four shots to the arm some of which passed though the chest and lungs.

No gunshot residue on the body. (The clothes were not examined by this M.E.)

No wounds found indicating a physical altercation.
 
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