2014 NBA Free Agency and Draft

[koonja]

I think the Cavs could contend for a title this year. It wouldn't surprise me if they're in the finals, with or without the trade.

 

[Grahambo]

I think the Cavs could contend for a title this year. It wouldn't surprise me if they're in the finals, with or without the trade.

As much crap as the East gets, Cavs won't survive past the ECF as they stand. Bulls, with a healthy Rose, would be the favorites. LBJ needs Love more then he needs Wiggins.


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[Irish Insanity]

As much crap as the East gets, Cavs won't survive past the ECF as they stand. Bulls, with a healthy Rose, would be the favorites. LBJ needs Love more then he needs Wiggins.


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Nobody knows what Rose will be, even if he's healthy. And it's a big if at this point. 2 knee surgeries in 2 years. Played very little competitive ball in 2 years. They did gain Gasol, but they also lost Deng. I'd say it's close to a coin flip. But I'd take an experienced Lebron.

 

[woolybug25]

Nobody knows what Rose will be, even if he's healthy. And it's a big if at this point. 2 knee surgeries in 2 years. Played very little competitive ball in 2 years. They did gain Gasol, but they also lost Deng. I'd say it's close to a coin flip. But I'd take an experienced Lebron.

The Bulls lost Deng a long time ago. He only played 23 games for Chicago last year. He's a damn good player, but the team moved on without him fine. That's water under the bridge at this point.

 

[zelezo vlk]

Nobody knows what Rose will be, even if he's healthy. And it's a big if at this point. 2 knee surgeries in 2 years. Played very little competitive ball in 2 years. They did gain Gasol, but they also lost Deng. I'd say it's close to a coin flip. But I'd take an experienced Lebron.

Jimmy is a better defender than Deng now anyways. Rose by all accounts is looking great so I expect him to he a serviceable athletic point at the very least. That alone will vault the Bulls to the top 2 and the depth may put them over the top.

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[TheTurningPoint]

I like the Gasol pickup for the Bulls. But Im not 100% sold how he will fit with their team. I dont think they can afford to have Noah and Gasol on the floor at the sametime, and if you designate one to the bench you arent playing to either one of their strengths. Noah and Gasol are exceptional team players, but Im just not sold on Noah playing the 4, or Gasol playing the 4.

 

[irishog77]

I like the Gasol pickup for the Bulls. But Im not 100% sold how he will fit with their team. I dont think they can afford to have Noah and Gasol on the floor at the sametime, and if you designate one to the bench you arent playing to either one of their strengths. Noah and Gasol are exceptional team players, but Im just not sold on Noah playing the 4, or Gasol playing the 4.

Perhaps. But Gasol won 2 titles (and played for a 3rd) with Bynum. And it's not like Noah has has much of a scoring offensive game. He's good at moving the ball, screening, passing, and knocking down occasional 10-12 footers. Noah's mobile enough to play 4 defensively along side Gasol, if necessary.

I think pairing the 2 of them together (along with the rest of their frontcourt), will be good. The only question I have is wether or not age/desire have eroded Gasol's effectiveness, or his ability to be tough-- honestly, he has been pretty soft mentally and/or physically the last couple of years.

If the Bulls are getting a version of Gasol similar to 2010, then I have no doubt the move will work out well for them.

 

[Grahambo]

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[TheTurningPoint]

Perhaps. But Gasol won 2 titles (and played for a 3rd) with Bynum. And it's not like Noah has has much of a scoring offensive game. He's good at moving the ball, screening, passing, and knocking down occasional 10-12 footers. Noah's mobile enough to play 4 defensively along side Gasol, if necessary.

I think pairing the 2 of them together (along with the rest of their frontcourt), will be good. The only question I have is wether or not age/desire have eroded Gasol's effectiveness, or his ability to be tough-- honestly, he has been pretty soft mentally and/or physically the last couple of years.

If the Bulls are getting a version of Gasol similar to 2010, then I have no doubt the move will work out well for them.

No, I get that. Gasol and Bynum worked well. But Gasol was also a little bit younger. I just dont see Noah being able to guard Bosh or Love (if the Cavs get him). That will really take him out of his element being on the perimeter. I dont think they should worry about that over the course of the season, but in a 7 game series, I think is going to be a tough matchup for Noah.

 

[Grahambo]

Rose is a stud. Natural born talent and I think he will be fine (assuming he's healthy). Top 5 head coach with a Top 4 (at worst) team. I can see Chicago and Cleveland going back and forth all year.

 

[woolybug25]

No, I get that. Gasol and Bynum worked well. But Gasol was also a little bit younger. I just dont see Noah being able to guard Bosh or Love (if the Cavs get him). That will really take him out of his element being on the perimeter. I dont think they should worry about that over the course of the season, but in a 7 game series, I think is going to be a tough matchup for Noah.

Noah is one of the best defenders in the league and has had no issues guarding Bosh in the past. Most the time though, he was tasked with guarding Lebron when they faced the Heat. Usually did pretty well against him too (as good as anybody can, I suppose).

Edit - Noah is the reigning defensive player of the year. So there's that... lol

 

[ResLife Hero]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Report: <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Suns?src=hash">#Suns</a> Considering Presenting Greg Monroe An Offer Sheet. <a href="http://t.co/4sPQZYRIDT">http://t.co/4sPQZYRIDT</a> via <a href="https://twitter.com/247Sports">@247Sports</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/NBA?src=hash">#NBA</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Hoyas?src=hash">#Hoyas</a></p>— Michael Bohlin (@MBohlin247) <a href="https://twitter.com/MBohlin247/statuses/491253739064266752">July 21, 2014</a></blockquote>
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[zelezo vlk]

I've seen worse ideas.

 

[ResLife Hero]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Former No. 2 pick and troublesome Indiana Pacer Evan Turner is headed to the Celtics: <a href="http://t.co/9i0RfUsmHC">http://t.co/9i0RfUsmHC</a> <a href="http://t.co/wNeDC7DFu3">pic.twitter.com/wNeDC7DFu3</a></p>— SB Nation (@SBNation) <a href="https://twitter.com/SBNation/statuses/491330374224445440">July 21, 2014</a></blockquote>
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[sparkyND]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Report: <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Suns?src=hash">#Suns</a> Considering Presenting Greg Monroe An Offer Sheet. <a href="http://t.co/4sPQZYRIDT">http://t.co/4sPQZYRIDT</a> via <a href="https://twitter.com/247Sports">@247Sports</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/NBA?src=hash">#NBA</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Hoyas?src=hash">#Hoyas</a></p>— Michael Bohlin (@MBohlin247) <a href="https://twitter.com/MBohlin247/statuses/491253739064266752">July 21, 2014</a></blockquote>
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This actually would be great for the Suns. Trading Bledsoe for Monroe sounds even better. Monroe would be another strong post presence and gives Plumlee time to develop while preserving cap space in the long run.

 

[ResLife Hero]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Utah's trading John Lucas, Malcolm Thomas and Erik Murphy to Cleveland for Carrick Felix, future 2nd and $1M, sources tell Yahoo.</p>— Adrian Wojnarowski (@WojYahooNBA) <a href="https://twitter.com/WojYahooNBA/statuses/491716823331528705">July 22, 2014</a></blockquote>
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[ResLife Hero]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Report: Chicago <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Bulls?src=hash">#Bulls</a> offer Taj Gibson, Doug McDermott & Nikola Mirotic for Kevin Love. <a href="http://t.co/i9GPCQDFP8">http://t.co/i9GPCQDFP8</a> via <a href="https://twitter.com/247Sports">@247Sports</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/NBA?src=hash">#NBA</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/TWolves?src=hash">#TWolves</a></p>— Michael Bohlin (@MBohlin247) <a href="https://twitter.com/MBohlin247/statuses/491982587200409600">July 23, 2014</a></blockquote>
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[zelezo vlk]

Just as good if not better than the Bennett package, but it can't touch Wiggins.

 

[woolybug25]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Report: Chicago <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Bulls?src=hash">#Bulls</a> offer Taj Gibson, Doug McDermott & Nikola Mirotic for Kevin Love. <a href="http://t.co/i9GPCQDFP8">http://t.co/i9GPCQDFP8</a> via <a href="https://twitter.com/247Sports">@247Sports</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/NBA?src=hash">#NBA</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/TWolves?src=hash">#TWolves</a></p>— Michael Bohlin (@MBohlin247) <a href="https://twitter.com/MBohlin247/statuses/491982587200409600">July 23, 2014</a></blockquote>
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That's probably the best offer they've gotten so far. McDermott and Mirotic are unproven, but with big time potential. Taj makes them better defensively immedietely.

I hate to lose any of those guys, frankly. But I'm fine with it for Love.

 

[NoJusticeNoPeace]

They have no use for Gibson since they are rebuilding, and Mirotic and McDermott aren't as highly regarded as the Cavs young guys or as desirable as having their own first rounders from Boston. It's not a good offer.

 

[zelezo vlk]

That's probably the best offer they've gotten so far. McDermott and Mirotic are unproven, but with big time potential. Taj makes them better defensively immedietely.

I hate to lose any of those guys, frankly. But I'm fine with it for Love.

I think they're definitely taking back a guy like K Mart too. I bet Gasol might be a bit angry if he's coming off the bench, but it's hard to argue that the team would have a better shot at winning a title.

However, losing McDermott means Dunleavy is probably starting...which I don't want.

They have no use for Gibson since they are rebuilding, and Mirotic and McDermott aren't as highly regarded as the Cavs young guys or as desirable as having their own first rounders from Boston. It's not a good offer.

Saunders wants players because he has to keep his job. Wiggins and Bennett wouldn't really save his job this year.

 

[Grahambo]

That's probably the best offer they've gotten so far. McDermott and Mirotic are unproven, but with big time potential. Taj makes them better defensively immedietely.

I hate to lose any of those guys, frankly. But I'm fine with it for Love.

That's probably the 3rd best deal outside of Wiggins/Klay. Sounds like Cleveland is looking for other pieces to add so that the Wolves can toss in one or two other guys.

 

[woolybug25]

They have no use for Gibson since they are rebuilding, and Mirotic and McDermott aren't as highly regarded as the Cavs young guys or as desirable as having their own first rounders from Boston. It's not a good offer.

Do you even know who Mirotic is? He's widely heralded as the best European prospect since Dirk. Past Wiggins, I don't see what prospect is better than any of them, especially Mirotic.

 

[gkIrish]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Report: 76ers may get in on the Cavs/T-Wolves trade....have high interest in Dion Waiters. (FOX)</p>— NBA Legion (@MySportsLegion) <a href="https://twitter.com/MySportsLegion/statuses/491990801342140416">July 23, 2014</a></blockquote>
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Not sure why Cavs would want to get rid of both Wiggins and Waiters. Who would play SG?

 

[Grahambo]

Do you even know who Mirotic is? He's widely heralded as the best European prospect since Dirk. Past Wiggins, I don't see what prospect is better than any of them, especially Mirotic.

If you're the Wolves, wouldn't you want Klay over a European guy who, despite loads of potential, hasn't played a minute in the NBA?

 

[woolybug25]

If you're the Wolves, wouldn't you want Klay over a European guy who, despite loads of potential, hasn't played a minute in the NBA?

Couldn't thy same thing be said for Wiggins?

 

[Grahambo]

Couldn't thy same thing be said for Wiggins?

Sure but which one has superstar talk surrounding him?

 

[BleedBlueGold]

Shit's cray in the NBA right now. Love it.

 

[BleedBlueGold]

Wooly, what kind of lineup are the Bulls looking at if Mirotic is as good as advertised? Gasol, Noah, McDermott, Butler, Rose...6th man Mirotic?

 

[zelezo vlk]

If you're the Wolves, wouldn't you want Klay over a European guy who, despite loads of potential, hasn't played a minute in the NBA?

Depends. Klay will probably get a max contract or close. If they don't want to pay him that then no they wouldn't want Klay.

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