'15 LA OT/DT Jerry Tillery (Notre Dame Early Enrollee)

[GoldenDomer]

You talk to other teams!?!

Seriously guys, Tristen Hoge says that Jerry is Irish through and through

 

[Irish#1]

Whether mom is trying to deflect pressure or she really wants him at LSU, I still like where we stand.

I still like our chances.

We're still in good shape. He's had so much pressure that I would have expected to see a crack in the armor by now. As level headed as he is, if he starts getting pressure from teachers that could turn him off and backfire on LSU.

We're still in good shape here.

We're still in good shape and I like our chances.

 

[Booslum31]

We're still in good shape and I like our chances.

I like the way you think. I think we are going to be ok here.

 

[GoldenDomer]

"He gets a phone case engraved with "Go Irish", he gets a dog tag engraved, "Go Irish", everything he has is, "Go Irish"... He's not going anywhere, dont believe any of the hype." -Tristen Hoge

 

[Kaneyoufeelit]

"He gets a phone case engraved with "Go Irish", he gets a dog tag engraved, "Go Irish", everything he has is, "Go Irish"... He's not going anywhere, dont believe any of the hype." -Tristen Hoge

And Barnett had an ND golf bag and his room covered in ND stuff. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

 

[GoldenDomer]

And Barnett had an ND golf bag and his room covered in ND stuff. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Thunder = Stolen.

 

[Booslum31]

And Barnett had an ND golf bag and his room covered in ND stuff. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Are you doubting Mr. Hoge?

 

[Kaneyoufeelit]

Are you doubting Mr. Hoge?

No. I'm doubting that having ND stuff reflects a strong commitment from Mr. Tillery.

 

[Booslum31]

No. I'm doubting that having ND stuff reflects a strong commitment from Mr. Tillery.

I agree...but I also trust is Tristen...he believes.

 

[Irish#1]

I agree...but I also trust is Tristen...he believes.

I like the way you think. I think we are going to be ok here.

 

[Bogtrotter07]

There are many similarities between Jerry and failed recruiting efforts. I won't argue that. There are also many similarities between Jerry and successful ones.

A key point is how early in the process Jerry selected ND. Does that serve to ghost some recruiting stories, or does that set him apart?

 

[Bogtrotter07]

Barnett went on a "secret visit" that was the deal breaker from all I have read. Tillery has not attempted this kind of secrecy.

 

[Bogtrotter07]

I attempted to point out that Tillery was an offensive lineman, and even as offensive linemen go, much smarter than average. Will that translate to wisdom? Who knows?

 

[Bogtrotter07]

But I still feel it is hard for someone who hasn't lived ND to buy in before they get there, so for Tillery's parents, spending time with the Hodges is a support system they may have needed. After all, we all just read how this is exactly what Urban is doing, and may have been key in landing Hilliard over ND.

 

[Bogtrotter07]

PS. : Tried to get this message on since yesterday. Internal server error, sorry about breaking it into multiple posts!

 

[OCIrish]

PS. : Tried to get this message on since yesterday. Internal server error, sorry about breaking it into multiple posts!

Bullshit, I think you're just trying to get your post count higher .......

 

[Bogtrotter07]

Bullshit, I think you're just trying to get your post count higher .......

Yeah, baby! That's it! I took a page from one of the mod's suffering the same malaise! Broke it up. I may start doing it on all my posts from now on!

 

[OCIrish]

Yeah, baby! That's it! I took a page from one of the mod's suffering the same malaise! Broke it up. I may start doing it on all my posts from now on!

There ya go!!! Sometimes you've got to stick with what works!!!!!!

 

[OCIrish]

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[STLDomer]

Barnett went on a "secret visit" that was the deal breaker from all I have read. Tillery has not attempted this kind of secrecy.

Not accurate.

 

[NDinL.A.]

There are many similarities between Jerry and failed recruiting efforts. I won't argue that. There are also many similarities between Jerry and successful ones.

A key point is how early in the process Jerry selected ND. Does that serve to ghost some recruiting stories, or does that set him apart?

Off the top of my head, a few years ago, Chris Martin was our first commit. Tee Shephard, who went on a couple of secret visits to USC and almost flipped, then was never admitted to ND anyway, was also first to commit in his class. So it's not an indicator of being solid, if recent history is being used.

 

[Bogtrotter07]

Not accurate.

What is not accurate about this. Many sources quoted that Barnett went on a visit to Oregon that was not known by anyone. ISD sources state that Kelly ended all communication with Barnett based upon the way he handled himself. That Barnett just wanted to "explore other options" while he was committed. That is why he still remained committed for a few days, before he totally de-committed and announced that the only school that wasn't in play was ND.

Off the top of my head, a few years ago, Chris Martin was our first commit. Tee Shephard, who went on a couple of secret visits to USC and almost flipped, then was never admitted to ND anyway, was also first to commit in his class. So it's not an indicator of being solid, if recent history is being used.

I agree with you 100%.

I am sorry my post needed to be parsed in several pieces, and that I wasn't clearer. What I was trying to say that most people are seeing Jerry's early commit as being a key indicator as to what he will do. I am saying that is ambiguous. I think his being an offensive linemen is key, and other than Decker the wrecker, which was under extremely unusual circumstances, I don't think that we have seen that kind of vacillation, or wandering interest under Kelly/Hiestand. (Yes, Decker was pre-Harry.) And I don't think talking about the Martins changing to ND or other o-linemen switching to ND from another school is comparable. Since Kelly has been here with Longo, the training table, surgeons, and trainers, even before Hiestand replace Warinner, ND was a better destination for lineman than almost any school in the nation!

 

[STLDomer]

What is not accurate about this. Many sources quoted that Barnett went on a visit to Oregon that was not known by anyone. ISD sources state that Kelly ended all communication with Barnett based upon the way he handled himself. That Barnett just wanted to "explore other options" while he was committed. That is why he still remained committed for a few days, before he totally de-committed and announced that the only school that wasn't in play was ND.

He informed the staff ahead of time he would take a visit to Oregon,

 

[Bogtrotter07]

He informed the staff ahead of time he would take a visit to Oregon,

Before the initial trip? I am not doubting you, but that goes against everything I read. Granted it wasn't my top read, but I thought that he went to Oregon on the QT, then came back and told Kelly he intended to visit Oregon. Pardon me if I was wrong.

 

[NDinL.A.]

He informed the staff ahead of time he would take a visit to Oregon,

This is true. They knew a week ahead of time and were livid about it. That's why they already had QB's in mind and were gauging their interest by the time the media found out.

 

[STLDomer]

Before the initial trip? I am not doubting you, but that goes against everything I read. Granted it wasn't my top read, but I thought that he went to Oregon on the QT, then came back and told Kelly he intended to visit Oregon. Pardon me if I was wrong.

This is true. They knew a week ahead of time and were livid about it. That's why they already had QB's in mind and were gauging their interest by the time the media found out.

What LA said. He did inform the staff. They weren't happy, but it wasn't a secret trip.

 

[Bogtrotter07]

I will stand corrected on that. I thought he had already visited. But still.

Barnett's visit was a deal breaker based upon the understanding and relationship Kelly had with Barnett and his parents. I don't see the same thing with Tillery.

Obviously, the whole recruiting class effort was based upon the lynchpin of the elite quarterback. To see proof of this, we lost at least one recruit who had seriously been considering ND, whom Barnett had been recruiting, and committed on a dime to Oregon.

The key point remains that recruiting a quarterback, an elite one, is an entirely different proposition, with many different implications, than recruiting a lineman.

But thanks for the correct information!

 

[Irish#1]

It's been posted before, but is worth repeating. OL are a different breed. They tend to be more level headed and aren't prone to being Prima Donnas that seek attention. Tillary doesn't seem to display any traits that give me concern.

 

[Irish To The Core]

It's been posted before, but is worth repeating. OL are a different breed. They tend to be more level headed and aren't prone to being Prima Donnas that seek attention. Tillary doesn't seem to display any traits that give me concern.

True...but then there is always Seantrel Henderson.

 

[GoldenDomer]

It's been posted before, but is worth repeating. OL are a different breed. They tend to be more level headed and aren't prone to being Prima Donnas that seek attention. Tillary doesn't seem to display any traits that give me concern.

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