'15 TX WR Jalen Guyton (Notre Dame Signed NLI)

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I don't think speed is his strong suit

It most certainly is A strong suit. He's not a slot-type receiver that is major threat in space, but he is incredibly fast in stride. He possesses close to DAT's speed, but not necessarily his elusiveness. Way I see it, he is thriving in one of the toughest leagues in the toughest football state in the country.
 

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It most certainly is A strong suit. He's not a slot-type receiver that is major threat in space, but he is incredibly fast in stride. He possesses close to DAT's speed, but not necessarily his elusiveness. Way I see it, he is thriving in one of the toughest leagues in the toughest football state in the country.

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I am not gonna give you the response that this response deserves.

Tape tells the story my friend. I know what I saw, and that wasn't just speed, but it was speed against TOP competition. I don't know what makes you think he doesn't possess great speed. DAT is fast, faster than Guyton no question, but there's more to his game than simply speed. He is elusive, difficult to bring down. Things that Guyton doesn't possess. I never said he's faster or better than DAT, but simply stating the obvious. Kid is fast, VERY fast in his routes. He also possess very precise route running skills to compliment his speed. Don't know what's so blasphemous about that statement.
 

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Tape tells the story my friend. I know what I saw, and that wasn't just speed, but it was speed against TOP competition. I don't know what makes you think he doesn't possess great speed. DAT is fast, faster than Guyton no question, but there's more to his game than simply speed. He is elusive, difficult to bring down. Things that Guyton doesn't possess. I never said he's faster or better than DAT, but simply stating the obvious. Kid is fast, VERY fast in his routes. He also possess very precise route running skills to compliment his speed. Don't know what's so blasphemous about that statement.


Come on man! How are you even gonna sit here and say something about DeAnothy Thomas. But then say Thomas is faster then Guyton and then say nothing in Guytons game resembles DAT's.

24 7 rates him with 5 speed and watch the film nothing what so ever jumps out as a speed WR. All he does is run a go route. Then I watched the film and his route running is pretty good for a high school senior. He also runs a ton of go routes. So according to 24 7 who breaks down film and rates players

Guyton speed is 5
Route running a 6
Agility a 5
Change of direction 5
YAC a 6

So once again watch the film and what jumps out to you? What jumps out to you were you would even put him in the same sentence as DAT
 
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Come on man! How are you even gonna sit here and say something about DeAnothy Thomas. But then say Thomas is faster then Guyton and then say nothing in Guytons game resembles DAT's.

24 7 rates him with 5 speed and watch the film nothing what so ever jumps out as a speed WR. All he does is run a go route. Then I watched the film and his route running is pretty good for a high school senior. He also runs a ton of go routes. So according to 24 7 who breaks down film and rates players

Guyton speed is 5
Route running a 6
Agility a 5
Change of direction 5
YAC a 6

So once again watch the film and what jumps out to you? What jumps out to you were you would even put him in the same sentence as DAT

Is that out of 10? If that's the case, then 24/7 has just as much credibility in rating players than they do writing articles. Route Running a 6/10? Dude's probably one of the best route runners in the country. You have to remember that Guyton looks fast against TOP COMPETITION. That is the highest classification in Texas. Even with elite speed, it's not going to look like someone with the same speed playing somewhere like Oregon. Texas has much better teams, so Guyton gets challenge on a constant basis.

DAT was a bad example, but to say this guy isn't fast is just plain wrong. His speed and route running skills are among the elite of this class. He's not necessarily athletic, or an elusive receiver. Kind of like Will Fuller, only a tad slower but better control right now.
 

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Is that out of 10? If that's the case, then 24/7 has just as much credibility in rating players than they do writing articles. Route Running a 6/10? Dude's probably one of the best route runners in the country. You have to remember that Guyton looks fast against TOP COMPETITION. That is the highest classification in Texas. Even with elite speed, it's not going to look like someone with the same speed playing somewhere like Oregon. Texas has much better teams, so Guyton gets challenge on a constant basis.

DAT was a bad example, but to say this guy isn't fast is just plain wrong. His speed and route running skills are among the elite of this class. He's not necessarily athletic, or an elusive receiver. Kind of like Will Fuller, only a tad slower but better control right now.


How can you sit here and say he has elite route running? I never saw him run constant routes, neither have you. 24 7 has broken down game tape and evaluated him. You have watched a 5 minute youtube video. Just like I have, and watching that tape I can't understand how you can say he has great speed with elite route running ability. It honestly blows my mind

Fast is fast it doesn't matter who it's against. Everyone in the NFL is fast but you know who stands out regarding speed.

Does Guyton stand out with his speed? No
Does his route running? No
 
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Seriously, GB. Sean and Koon are impossible to debate with. Neither of them ever thing they are wrong. Just let it go. Not worth it, bro.
 

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Seriously, GB. Sean and Koon are impossible to debate with. Neither of them ever thing they are wrong. Just let it go. Not worth it, bro.

That's it, I'm done. I'm difficult to argue with? Sometimes you guys are so pessimistic that I swear if a pen drops you guys see it as a heralding of the coming apocalypse.

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Your right Peoria, I can never admit when I am wrong and I am impossible to talk to I guess. All I asked was for his reasoning.

I guess Sean will go back to making youtube videos
Koon will just start posting on 24 7
GB will just shut up and only give recruiting updates

There was a period there after "GB". I wasn't saying you were hard to deal with, just Koon and Sean. I suppose your grasp on the English language extends from writing to reading comprehension as well, huh :hug:
 
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There was a period there after "GB". I wasn't saying you were hard to deal with, Just Koon and Sean. I suppose your grasp on the English language extends from writing to reading comprehension as well, huh :hug:

Classic.
 

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Sorry man, it looked like a comma instead of a period. My bad, I also do have a learning disability when it comes to reading comprehensions and writing. So, ya that would make sense.
 

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I'm at work, is it that bad? I can't understand why the early game was on ABC, but the US is on ESPN? Weird.

I think because games on ABC on Sundays can only be during the day. Pretty sure it's just a timing thing.
 

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I'm at work, is it that bad? I can't understand why the early game was on ABC, but the US is on ESPN? Weird.

No... not bad. I won't spoil for you if you're DVRing it. I just figure being drunk and watching football... whether American or world style... go hand in hand.
 

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I think because games on ABC on Sundays can only be during the day. Pretty sure it's just a timing thing.

That's probably true, I didn't think about whatever shows they have on in their prime time slots.
 

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It most certainly is A strong suit. He's not a slot-type receiver that is major threat in space, but he is incredibly fast in stride. He possesses close to DAT's speed, but not necessarily his elusiveness. Way I see it, he is thriving in one of the toughest leagues in the toughest football state in the country.

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No... not bad. I won't spoil for you if you're DVRing it. I just figure being drunk and watching football... whether American or world style... go hand in hand.

I'm not, just looked at the score. Honestly shocked and proud of them boys!
 
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Seriously, GB. Sean and Koon are impossible to debate with. Neither of them ever thing they are wrong. Just let it go. Not worth it, bro.

There was a period there after "GB". I wasn't saying you were hard to deal with, just Koon and Sean. I suppose your grasp on the English language extends from writing to reading comprehension as well, huh :hug:

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