'11 CA DE/OT Troy Niklas (Signed Notre Dame LOI)

aubeirish · Jan 9, 2014

Damn. This one hurts. Good luck to Troy. He is an animal.

Rhode Irish · Jan 9, 2014

Just had the thought: this probably hurts us more in the running game than it does in the passing game. Which sucks, because I felt like we were setting up to just be a running force with big play potential in the pass game.

wizards8507 · Jan 9, 2014

aubeirish said:
Just an observation here. That graduation rate has got to take a drop this year. Not sure how I feel about that.

This. And I'd be interested to see the breakdown of opinions based on ND alumni and students versus general fans of the program.

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Kak7304 · Jan 9, 2014

Sports Guy: Ewing Theory 101 - ESPN Page 2

Hoping this happens times ten.

OlympiaIrishFan · Jan 9, 2014

And Par for the course--Bad News in the off season for ND Football--keeps coming. Good for Troy and being an NFL Player, and more NFL players from ND makes us look good to potential recruits.

But, crap so many hits to our football program.

pkt77242 · Jan 9, 2014

wizards8507 said:
This. And I'd be interested to see the breakdown of opinions based on ND alumni and students versus general fans of the program.

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Actually not this. As long as he was on track to graduate and was in good standing he doesn't count against us.

phork · Jan 9, 2014

Kak7304 said:
Holtz yelled as much as anyone. Saban and many other coaches do the same. This was a dumb controversy.

Yelling is yelling but 50 shades of purple was ridiculous.

Jebediah Springfield · Jan 9, 2014

GoldenIsThyFame said:
"What's your New Year's resolution, GITF?"

"GIVING UP CARING SO DAMN MUCH ABOUT ND EFFING FOOTBALL, THATS WHAT."

tussin · Jan 9, 2014

Kak7304 said:
Sports Guy: Ewing Theory 101 - ESPN Page 2

Hoping this happens times ten.

I know Niklas was good, but he ain't no Patrick Ewing. We don't qualify for the Theory.

Bluto · Jan 9, 2014

gkIrish said:
There are only like 3 players on the team that I would rather have than Niklas next year. This ducking sucks.

Personally I would rather have Nix, Schwenke, Shembo, Tuitt and Martin back.

aubeirish · Jan 9, 2014

Are we debating yelling here? Nothing wrong with Kelly yelling. It's football... There supposed to be yelling.

wizards8507 · Jan 9, 2014

Buster Bluth said:
Oh I see it now.. you're batshit crazy.

Right, anyone who disagrees with you or questions Kelly is batshit crazy. I love internet tough guys.

Kak7304 said:
Holtz yelled as much as anyone. Saban and many other coaches do the same. This was a dumb controversy.

That's why I said "somewhere between". I'm not a fan of the screaming but whatever, it is what it is. No one thing Kelly has done nor one problem with the program is super horrible but everything on top of everything just isn't quite right.

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nsisk157 · Jan 9, 2014

@NDatRivals: One difference between Niklas’ decision and Tuitt/Atkinson, the tight end alerted the Notre Dame coaching staff that he was leaving.

Class Act. I Recall When He committed and Did So By A Fax And No Fan Fare.. Wish Him The Best

(Phone Is Going Nuts, Please Excuse)

BeauBenken · Jan 9, 2014

I'm a little embarrassed to see my fellow mods flipping out like this...

And if everyone keeps getting at one another's throats, I'm going to have to close down the thread.

gkIrish · Jan 9, 2014

Bluto said:
Personally I would rather have Nix, Schwenke, Shembo, Tuitt and Martin back.

I mean that there are only 3 players still on the team that I would rather have than Niklas next season.

EG, Jaylon, and Keivarae.

Jebediah Springfield · Jan 9, 2014

BeauBenken said:
I'm a little embarrassed to see my fellow mods flipping out like this...

The day the boy became a man......

GoldenIsThyFame · Jan 9, 2014

BeauBenken said:
I'm a little embarrassed to see my fellow mods flipping out like this...

And if everyone keeps getting at one another's throats, I'm going to have to close down the thread.

I'm going to ban you first

WakeUpEchoes · Jan 9, 2014

wizards8507 said:
Right, anyone who disagrees with you or questions Kelly is batshit crazy. I love internet tough guys.

That's why I said "somewhere between". I'm not a fan of the screaming but whatever, it is what it is. No one thing Kelly has done nor one problem with the program is super horrible but everything on top of everything just isn't quite right.

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You're looking and reaching for someone to blame for a kid leaving for the draft. It's understandable. I think the decision is dumb. But Kelly isn't the guy to blame here.

Ironman8 · Jan 9, 2014

GoldenIsThyFame said:
I'm going to ban you first

Beau to ND Nation for a member to be named later.

Cali_domer · Jan 9, 2014

GoldenIsThyFame said:
I'm going to ban you first

Brooklyn · Jan 9, 2014

gkIrish said:
I mean that there are only 3 players still on the team that I would rather have than Niklas next season.

EG, Jaylon, and Keivarae.

I'd add Day, Stanley and Elmer on that list also.

wizards8507 · Jan 9, 2014

pkt77242 said:
Actually not this. As long as he was on track to graduate and was in good standing he doesn't count against us.

I don't care about the reported statistic. It's the principle that bugs me. We complain about football factories but then try to rationalize when we do the same thing on a lesser scale. "Everything is okay because we're not as bad as Bama and this doesn't hurt the numbers they report on ESPN." It shouldn't be that way. If student athletes are student athletes, then that's the expectation we should have, not just "our student athletes are more studenty than yours!"

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phork · Jan 9, 2014

aubeirish said:
Are we debating yelling here? Nothing wrong with Kelly yelling. It's football... There supposed to be yelling.

Not normal.

pkt77242 · Jan 9, 2014

gkIrish said:
I mean that there are only 3 players still on the team that I would rather have than Niklas next season.

EG, Jaylon, and Keivarae.

How about our Starting O-Line? Day, and Hel even J. Jones is probably more important due to depth.

phork · Jan 9, 2014

WakeUpEchoes said:
You're looking and reaching for someone to blame for a kid leaving for the draft. It's understandable. I think the decision is dumb. But Kelly isn't the guy to blame here.

We don't know that right now do we? If the "information" Troy is referring to is a coaching change, then it would indeed be Kelly's fault. (All reckless speculation)

Ironman8 · Jan 9, 2014

UCLA is going to get him to transfer before he signs an agent.

tko · Jan 9, 2014

phork said:
Not normal.

Glorious

BeauBenken · Jan 9, 2014

GoldenIsThyFame said:
I'm going to ban you first

Ironman8 said:
Beau to ND Nation for a member to be named later.

Just one member?!

Seriously, I love you guys, but don't make me whip out the guitar and play some Third Eye Blind.

Jebediah Springfield · Jan 9, 2014

wizards8507 said:
I don't care about the reported statistic. It's the principle that bugs me. We complain about football factories but then try to rationalize when we do the same thing on a lesser scale. "Everything is okay because we're not as bad as Bama and this doesn't hurt the numbers they report on ESPN." It shouldn't be that way. If student athletes are student athletes, then that's the expectation we should have, not just "our student athletes are more studenty than yours!"

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Uhh how do you feel about students dropping out when they are offered a good job or leave to start a company.

Sherm Sticky · Jan 9, 2014

Anyway Welch can stay? Lol

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