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TheTurningPoint

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Lack of arm strength is just a product of him not being 100%. Its game 12, he has a knee problem, and was sick as a dog. No excuse for poor decisions, but the last pass I have no problems with the play call or throw. Kid just didnt have enough in the tank to make it. It was there and he tried to hit it.

It was the same throw he hit vs Purdue to Davaris and Chris Brown.
 

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Lack of arm strength is just a product of him not being 100%. Its game 12, he has a knee problem, and was sick as a dog. No excuse for poor decisions, but the last pass I have no problems with the play call or throw. Kid just didnt have enough in the tank to make it. It was there and he tried to hit it.

It was the same throw he hit vs Purdue to Davaris and Chris Brown.

So you're saying that it's Longo's fault...

:wink:
 

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Really bad play call? If Tommy had any arm strength at all he reaches Fuller on that. Fuller had the CB beat by a couple yards and would have scored a TD if a tommy hit him in stride.

You have to call plays with Tommy's limitations in mind. You don't get a free pass on a play call just because your player is incapable of executing it; in fact, that makes the play call even worse. You need to KNOW what your players are capable of and call plays accordingly. "Read option" might be a dandy play on paper in a given situation, but you don't call it with an immobile quarterback. Your logic would defend a Tommy Rees read option by arguing that "if Tommy had any speed at all he beats the defensive end for a touchdown." You KNOW Tommy is slow and you KNOW he has a weak arm, so you call plays accordingly.
 

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You have to call plays with Tommy's limitations in mind. You don't get a free pass on a play call just because your player is incapable of executing it; in fact, that makes the play call even worse. You need to KNOW what your players are capable of and call plays accordingly. "Read option" might be a dandy play on paper in a given situation, but you don't call it with an immobile quarterback. Your logic would defend a Tommy Rees read option by arguing that "if Tommy had any speed at all he beats the defensive end for a touchdown." You KNOW Tommy is slow and you KNOW he has a weak arm, so you call plays accordingly.

Agree.
 

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Lack of arm strength is just a product of him not being 100%. Its game 12, he has a knee problem, and was sick as a dog. No excuse for poor decisions, but the last pass I have no problems with the play call or throw. Kid just didnt have enough in the tank to make it. It was there and he tried to hit it.

It was the same throw he hit vs Purdue to Davaris and Chris Brown.

I agree. Tommy can make that throw ... he just couldn't make it at that exact moment.
 

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You have to call plays with Tommy's limitations in mind. You don't get a free pass on a play call just because your player is incapable of executing it; in fact, that makes the play call even worse. You need to KNOW what your players are capable of and call plays accordingly. "Read option" might be a dandy play on paper in a given situation, but you don't call it with an immobile quarterback. Your logic would defend a Tommy Rees read option by arguing that "if Tommy had any speed at all he beats the defensive end for a touchdown." You KNOW Tommy is slow and you KNOW he has a weak arm, so you call plays accordingly.



Agree. Also, I think I recall it being a first down call. I just don't think it's a good first down call in any event. That the call worked against someone else in a different context, doesn't mean it's a high percentage, smart call, with four minutes left, on the road, down by 7, with a QB who was sick, on first down, when there are other options.
 

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Not sure if people could see this on TV, but there was one instance where we had to burn a timeout because we couldn't get the play in against BYU. Kelly chewed out Feissenger specifically after that which was surprising to me because I didn't expect that to be on the Red Army. Maybe it was just a one time thing, but it could be the hand signals/relaying the play that is the problem.
 
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