'14 MI DE Jhonathon Williams (Pending Transfer)

OCIrish

OCIrish

Fukk Michigan
Messages
3,280
Reaction score
218
Not at all unhappy about this commitment!!!! He's a project, for sure, but his ceiling is WAY high.......hopefully he shines in a couple of years!!!! Welcome to the Irish!!!!
 
GreenSox04

GreenSox04

LET THE BIG DOG EAT!
Messages
1,334
Reaction score
112
done, DONE.


<iframe width="640" height="360" src="//www.youtube.com/embed/AjZuGas6yRQ?feature=player_detailpage" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>
 
Last edited:
blueNDgold44

blueNDgold44

New member
Messages
1,995
Reaction score
67
tumblr_mqksaztVoX1ssjkcoo1_400.gif
 
TheChosen1

TheChosen1

New member
Messages
2,754
Reaction score
113
IrishLax said:
We just had this discussion in another thread... quoting my self:



There is little doubt in my mind that when he's done developing he's going to be a hand on the ground type of guy. He has a big frame and should be able to bulk up a ton. He's also a serious project player with a low floor, high ceiling... so maybe we'll never see him at all.

No, 6'6" in and of itself is not too tall for an OLB (see: Trent Murphy for Stanford, etc.)... and it's very possible you see him playing as a true OLB with this speed... but I'd personally bet against it relative to some other prospects. I think Williams and Trumbetti are destined to be much more DE types.
Click to expand...

Recruiting is sales...you tell the recruit whatever he wants to hear. You find a position for him when he gets here
 
B

Bogtrotter07

Guest
irishfanjho15 said:
And love this kids rangy game. Great pick up for ND. Welcome Jhonathon.
Click to expand...

I think this is worthy of a thread. This is going to be really important with this class at this time in the program. This isn't about the 85.

I only have Andrew, DeShone, Justin and it seems one other talked about it, but I cannot remember who.

Tá sé anaithnid . . . Tá brón orm.
 
Last edited:
Ironman8

Ironman8

Jaqen H'ghar
Messages
11,652
Reaction score
902
Bogtrotter07 said:
Anyone realize that he was recruited by the staff as a CAT. Or at least that is what he and all the services say.



Zactly! You can sign 30 if five can count for '13, (that class total minus its early enrollees), and you don't exceed 85 total scholarships.



It sort of does, with all due respect. Because you can count the EE's toward the earlier or later year, wherever you have room. Over three years you are going to max out, but don't you believe we have some impending Medical wavers and some transfers? Remember what happened last year?
Click to expand...

Uh no, with all due respect, 85 is the number. Early Enrolling does not matter in regards to the 85. It matters in regard to an SEC 28 yearly scholarship limit, but not in regards to the total.

We will sign until we get to 85 through prospects and 5th years. Hopefully attrition doesn't hit us after the fact.
 
ThePiombino

ThePiombino

The OG "TP"
Messages
16,476
Reaction score
6,245
Ironman8 said:
Uh no, with all due respect, 85 is the number. Early Enrolling does not matter in regards to the 85. It matters in regard to an SEC 28 yearly scholarship limit, but not in regards to the total.

We will sign until we get to 85 through prospects and 5th years. Hopefully attrition doesn't hit us after the fact.
Click to expand...



When's the last time we made it to fall with a full roster? Seems like every year we're dealing with self-imposed sanctions.
 
B

brewdog_14527

Well-known member
Messages
546
Reaction score
343
OK, we seem to recruit more cats than the crazy old lady at the end of the street. Is the plan for some of these to guys to grow into DE's? And I am curious how the staff handles these recruitments? Do they let them know that they may "grow" into DE's?
 
Old Man Mike

Old Man Mike

Fast as Lightning!
Messages
8,968
Reaction score
6,454
It is my belief that Coach is operating on a few first principles:

1). We are experiencing a ridiculous attrition of large defensive players this year [I'm speaking of the "unfair" amount of injuries]. This is the sort of shocker that forces one to conclude that you can't count on normal statistics in roster management when it comes to bigs.

2). We will experience a significant loss of many of the bigs that we have at the end of the season. Take a team "limping" in a critical area and reduce that area further and you have the makings of a catastrophe.

3). As I stated to Whiskey's distress a month or two ago, the evolution of our defense seems trending towards a fluid movement from a BIG end of a spectrum [NT] through a "small" end of that spectrum [CAT], within which players are going to slide according not only to need, but also defensive game plan for a given Saturday. Translation: The borders between CATs and DEs are blurring as to one's week-to-week role.

4). The best way to deal with this is to pile up as many BIGs who are also athletes as you can, especially if they can run. Because this is also a lean recruiting year for big DTs [unless you're Alabama, FSU, FL, LSU, etc], that means stockpiling CAT/DE hybrids in 2014.

.... an opinion.
 
B

Bogtrotter07

Guest
Ironman8 said:
Uh no, with all due respect, 85 is the number. Early Enrolling does not matter in regards to the 85. It matters in regard to an SEC 28 yearly scholarship limit, but not in regards to the total.

We will sign until we get to 85 through prospects and 5th years. Hopefully attrition doesn't hit us after the fact.
Click to expand...

Thanks for being respectful. We do agree exactly. I looked at the numbers.

And when you do the math, it is hard to see a time when you would be able to take more than twenty-five back to back. To do that you would have to start with a large number of upperclassmen, with no fifth years, and sustain tremendous repeated attrition. You are right in that if you could successively recruit more than fifty, back-to-back while following the rules, you would have other bigger problems to worry about.

My only question is when BK awards scholarships, like to Joe Schmidt, is that one year, like Weis did with Montana, or is that for the remainder of the players time and UND?

Oh, and Mike, a good opinion at that! Hope you had a good turkey day!
 
Last edited:
drake29

drake29

New member
Messages
911
Reaction score
41
Anybody else think Dion Jordan when they watch his highlights? similar height/build/athleticism...
 
Irish Insanity

Irish Insanity

Well-known member
Messages
9,885
Reaction score
584
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Everyone talking about MSU defense... Shutup they haven't even played anyone.</p>— Jhonny WIlliams (@Jhonny_willl) <a href="https://twitter.com/Jhonny_willl/statuses/406871725570142208">November 30, 2013</a></blockquote>
<script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>And when they did play a real team they lost. Go Irish&#55356;&#57152;&#55356;&#57288;&#55356;&#57152;&#55356;&#57288;</p>— Jhonny WIlliams (@Jhonny_willl) <a href="https://twitter.com/Jhonny_willl/statuses/406872272012455937">November 30, 2013</a></blockquote>
<script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
 
woolybug25

woolybug25

#1 Vineyard Vines Fan
Messages
17,677
Reaction score
3,018
Irish Insanity said:
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Everyone talking about MSU defense... Shutup they haven't even played anyone.</p>— Jhonny WIlliams (@Jhonny_willl) <a href="https://twitter.com/Jhonny_willl/statuses/406871725570142208">November 30, 2013</a></blockquote>
<script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>And when they did play a real team they lost. Go Irish��������</p>— Jhonny WIlliams (@Jhonny_willl) <a href="https://twitter.com/Jhonny_willl/statuses/406872272012455937">November 30, 2013</a></blockquote>
<script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
Click to expand...

Oh snap!
 
NDhoosier

NDhoosier

Well-known member
Messages
2,706
Reaction score
346
oh here we go... The extremely old Michigan State offer derail in 3... 2... 1...
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Top