'11 TX ATH Cam McDaniel (Signed Notre Dame LOI)

NDhoosier · Oct 25, 2013

I didnt think it was that difficult to understand. It is an action shot that looks like he posed for it.

ulukinatme · Oct 26, 2013

kuehnja said:
Greg Bryant's pics and now this? I'm starting to rethink everything that's felt natural to me at this point in my life.

This is where Kuehnja comes out of the closet

koonja · Oct 26, 2013

ulukinatme said:
This is where Kuehnja comes out of the closet

Can you blame me? We get Bryant, Jaylon, and now this, all in one year? Like I stood a chance.

Cackalacky · Oct 26, 2013

kuehnja said:
Can you blame me? We get Bryant, Jaylon, and now this, all in one year? Like I stood a chance.

Had you ever read Shakespeare, a sweet sonnet or two might ease your aching heart.

koonja · Oct 26, 2013

Cackalacky said:
Had you ever read Shakespeare, a sweet sonnet or two might ease your aching heart.

I haven't, but since you mentioned Shakespeare, you are now to Bogtrotter as Cam/Bryant are to kuehnja.

ulukinatme · Oct 27, 2013

I hope Cam is the starting back at this point. It's obvious this season that no other upperclassman has seized the opportunities they've been given and made the most of it like Cam has. One may argue that Folston has done very well with his limited carries, and I would put him at #2. I mentioned it last week, and this game today only solidifies that sentiment. Put Carlisle in the slot or something to get him in space, or do that Split Backs formation with Cam and Carlisle. GAIII should be Special Teams and #3 back again. I know service academies are disciplined and fairly good at fundamentals, but when you go down every carry on first contact from an Air Force defender...you probably shouldn't be the starting back. GAIII averaged 3.0 yards a carry, with Cam getting twice that and Folston getting 4.3. Carlisle ended up with 3 yards, but he only got 3 chances.

Irish YJ · Oct 27, 2013

RDU Irish said:
Nothing like being hit on by women twice your age.

Unless you're 43

irish1958 · Oct 27, 2013

Irish YJ said:
Unless you're 43

And you are speaking from experience?

tko · Oct 27, 2013

ulukinatme said:
I hope Cam is the starting back at this point. It's obvious this season that no other upperclassman has seized the opportunities they've been given and made the most of it like Cam has. One may argue that Folston has done very well with his limited carries, and I would put him at #2. I mentioned it last week, and this game today only solidifies that sentiment. Put Carlisle in the slot or something to get him in space, or do that Split Backs formation with Cam and Carlisle. GAIII should be Special Teams and #3 back again. I know service academies are disciplined and fairly good at fundamentals, but when you go down every carry on first contact from an Air Force defender...you probably shouldn't be the starting back. GAIII averaged 3.0 yards a carry, with Cam getting twice that and Folston getting 4.3. Carlisle ended up with 3 yards, but he only got 3 chances.

Bingo, Cam and Tarean #1 and #2 with Amir finding his way into the slot at times and GA III spelling guys for a breather. Where is Will Mahone?

Cackalacky · Oct 27, 2013

kuehnja said:
I haven't, but since you mentioned Shakespeare, you are now to Bogtrotter as Cam/Bryant are to kuehnja.

Lol. Bogs and I tore up some Shakespeare one day before our posts were relegated to the Island of misfit toys" thread.

Irish Insanity · Oct 27, 2013

ulukinatme said:
I hope Cam is the starting back at this point. It's obvious this season that no other upperclassman has seized the opportunities they've been given and made the most of it like Cam has. One may argue that Folston has done very well with his limited carries, and I would put him at #2. I mentioned it last week, and this game today only solidifies that sentiment. Put Carlisle in the slot or something to get him in space, or do that Split Backs formation with Cam and Carlisle. GAIII should be Special Teams and #3 back again. I know service academies are disciplined and fairly good at fundamentals, but when you go down every carry on first contact from an Air Force defender...you probably shouldn't be the starting back. GAIII averaged 3.0 yards a carry, with Cam getting twice that and Folston getting 4.3. Carlisle ended up with 3 yards, but he only got 3 chances.

tko said:
Bingo, Cam and Tarean #1 and #2 with Amir finding his way into the slot at times and GA III spelling guys for a breather. Where is Will Mahone?

Absolutely correct. We are 7 games in. Cam has shown he deserves the bulk of the carries, and equally so, GA III and Amir have shown they don't. Cam was arguably our #3 at best when the season started. He's the only one to show more than what was expected of him. And Folston, while its been a small sample, has shown he may be young but he also will produce better than about anyone else on the depth chart.

Kelly has always said the best players will see the field. But I just don't feel like he's stayed with that at the RB position. Prior to yesterdays game he said he wanted to get Amir and GA III going. Why? They haven't done it to this point with plenty of opportunity, no reason force what isn't happening.

As far as Mahone, I thought he was moved to the slot?

Irish YJ · Oct 27, 2013

irish1958 said:
And you are speaking from experience?

Nope LOL. When I was young, I loved the older ladies. Nothing like a 40 year old hot blonde life-guard when you're 22. Now that I'm 43, I still prefer someone a few years older. But... the ones half my age are looking better and better every year older I get.

Bogtrotter07 · Oct 27, 2013

Cackalacky said:
Lol. Bogs and I tore up some Shakespeare one day before our posts were relegated to the Island of misfit toys" thread.

That we did kind gentle soul.

Alas, poor Yorick! I knew him, Horatio, a fellow of infinite jest, of most excellent fancy. He hath borne me on his back a thousand times, and now, how abhorred in my imagination it is! My gorge rises at it. Here hung those lips that I have kissed I know not how oft. —Where be your gibes now? Your gambols? Your songs? Your flashes of merriment that were wont to set the table on a roar? Not one now to mock your own grinning? Quite chapfallen? Now get you to my lady’s chamber and tell her, let her paint an inch thick, to this favor she must come. Make her laugh at that.—Prithee, Horatio, tell me one thing.

And that thing about being hit on by ladies twice your age?

I wish I were hit on by a lady my own age. Usually it takes them too long to get the teeth in, lipstick on straight and their bra's on frontwards.

Cackalacky · Oct 28, 2013

Bogtrotter07 said:
That we did kind gentle soul.

Alas, poor Yorick! I knew him, Horatio, a fellow of infinite jest, of most excellent fancy. He hath borne me on his back a thousand times, and now, how abhorred in my imagination it is! My gorge rises at it. Here hung those lips that I have kissed I know not how oft. —Where be your gibes now? Your gambols? Your songs? Your flashes of merriment that were wont to set the table on a roar? Not one now to mock your own grinning? Quite chapfallen? Now get you to my lady’s chamber and tell her, let her paint an inch thick, to this favor she must come. Make her laugh at that.—Prithee, Horatio, tell me one thing.

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Bogtrotter07 · Oct 28, 2013

The one on the right is me!

Cackalacky · Oct 28, 2013

Bogtrotter07 said:
The one on the right is me!

Thou goatish fool-born coxcomb!
I must admit I look better than poor Yorik.

Bogtrotter07 · Oct 28, 2013

However, I do not look better than Mel Gibson, (then) not now.

irishpat183 · Oct 28, 2013

ulukinatme said:
I hope Cam is the starting back at this point. It's obvious this season that no other upperclassman has seized the opportunities they've been given and made the most of it like Cam has. One may argue that Folston has done very well with his limited carries, and I would put him at #2. I mentioned it last week, and this game today only solidifies that sentiment. Put Carlisle in the slot or something to get him in space, or do that Split Backs formation with Cam and Carlisle. GAIII should be Special Teams and #3 back again. I know service academies are disciplined and fairly good at fundamentals, but when you go down every carry on first contact from an Air Force defender...you probably shouldn't be the starting back. GAIII averaged 3.0 yards a carry, with Cam getting twice that and Folston getting 4.3. Carlisle ended up with 3 yards, but he only got 3 chances.

I agree. Cam is the workhorse...but we need big play ablity and that's why I think we've stuck with GAIII for so long. But he's just not made for this. Let Folston take over as #1a.

GAIII is simply a special teamer. Nothing wrong with it, but we need to stop expecting him to be somethiing he's not.

Love Cam...but we really need a big time RB. Folston may be that guy.

Bogtrotter07 · Oct 28, 2013

What if our blocking scheme is wrong? Does that make our blessing, or rush to judgement on any given back a little premature?

ulukinatme · Oct 28, 2013

irishpat183 said:
I agree. Cam is the workhorse...but we need big play ablity and that's why I think we've stuck with GAIII for so long. But he's just not made for this. Let Folston take over as #1a.

GAIII is simply a special teamer. Nothing wrong with it, but we need to stop expecting him to be somethiing he's not.

Love Cam...but we really need a big time RB. Folston may be that guy.

Folston may not be ready to be the starting back though. You can tell he's been getting more carries lately, so maybe they're preparing him for a role like that. Thats why I'm suggesting Cam at #1 and Folston to spell him. Cam isn't going to be the home run threat that GAIII is, but he's consistent between the tackles and he can still break some big runs as the USC game showed us. He's more than capable to be the starting guy while Folston gets experience.

Cackalacky · Oct 28, 2013

Bogtrotter07 said:
What if our blocking scheme is wrong? Does that make our blessing, or rush to judgement on any given back a little premature?

Kelly said in the presser that they had to make adjustments into gap type running due to what AFA was doing and that the adjustment helped. It is likely this has reduced the carries available to those backs capable of handling adjustments.

irishpat183 · Oct 28, 2013

Bogtrotter07 said:
What if our blocking scheme is wrong? Does that make our blessing, or rush to judgement on any given back a little premature?

GAIII has been here long enough to show SOME kinda improvement. He just hasn't.

Wild Bill · Oct 28, 2013

Bogtrotter07 said:
What if our blocking scheme is wrong? Does that make our blessing, or rush to judgement on any given back a little premature?

You know of a scheme that blocks eleven on every down?

GAIII could run behind emmitt Smith's line in Dallas and he'd still leave yards on the field.

Cackalacky · Oct 28, 2013

Irish19 said:
You know of a scheme that blocks eleven on every down?

GAIII could run behind emmitt Smith's line in Dallas and he'd still leave yards on the field.

We need a full back

irishfan · Oct 28, 2013

Like most here, I think Cam should be the #1 back with Folson getting ~8 carries a game as his backup. Throw GA back in his role from last year where he gets 3-5 carries a game where you try to get him in the open field.

I think they've got to start from scratch with Carlisle and move him to the slot for next year.

ND NYC · Oct 28, 2013

irishfan said:
Like most here, I think Cam should be the #1 back with Folson getting ~8 carries a game as his backup. Throw GA back in his role from last year where he gets 3-5 carries a game where you try to get him in the open field.

I think they've got to start from scratch with Carlisle and move him to the slot for next year.

cant say i disagree here...but would like perhaps more than 8 carries for folston

trivia question:
does chuck martin know that screens (to an RB out of the backfield) are allowed?

gkIrish · Oct 28, 2013

ND NYC said:
cant say i disagree here...but would like perhaps more than 8 carries for folston

trivia question:
does chuck martin know that screens (to an RB out of the backfield) are allowed?

What are these screens you speak of?

ulukinatme · Oct 28, 2013

ND NYC said:
trivia question:
does chuck martin know that screens (to an RB out of the backfield) are allowed?

Thats a good question. Other than some bubble screens maybe I don't think we've run any RB screens. You'd think with teams loading up the box and being aggressive the screen could be open. Maybe he's afraid with so many guys in the box that they'd sniff it out, flow with the blockers/RB and stuff it or get a pick? Thats my best guess, but probably not really Martin's thought process.

chubler · Oct 28, 2013

ulukinatme said:
Thats a good question. Other than some bubble screens maybe I don't think we've run any RB screens. You'd think with teams loading up the box and being aggressive the screen could be open. Maybe he's afraid with so many guys in the box that they'd sniff it out, flow with the blockers/RB and stuff it or get a pick? Thats my best guess, but probably not really Martin's thought process.

My guess is that such a play takes too long to develop, putting our lovable statue under center in a bad situation without an escape route since he's not mobile, and is therefore a high risk for a turnover.

Irishman77 · Oct 28, 2013

Screens never work with Rees. I am not taking a shot at Rees here, just saying screens require a lot of planned heat on a qb. Rees cannot move and must not get hit.

What I would love to see is no more empty backfields and having a check down back release . Amir could shine in this role IMHO

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