'10 IL QB Tommy Rees (Notre Dame Man)

[aubeirish]

Rees for Heisman.

 

[Irish Insanity]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>Though I walk through the valley in the shadow of the Big House I fear no Michigan, for they use corn as a school color and that is stupid</p>— Reesus (@reesus1842) <a href="https://twitter.com/reesus1842/statuses/375707946254360576">September 5, 2013</a></blockquote>
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[ulukinatme]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>Though I walk through the valley in the shadow of the Big House I fear no Michigan, for they use corn as a school color and that is stupid</p>— Reesus (@reesus1842) <a href="https://twitter.com/reesus1842/statuses/375707946254360576">September 5, 2013</a></blockquote>
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Actually, they don't use "Maize" anymore. After they switched jersey manufacturers they could not longer use that because it was trademarked. They're now the "Sun and Blue" which may be even stupider.

 

[kmoose]

He's middle of the pack on a good day. He can't move. Wait til he sees 8-9 in coverage.

I'm not doubting that he can make all the throws (maybe lacks a bit of arm strength) but he's not one of better QB's in CFB. Othewise, he'd be starting QB over the last 2 years. He's simply the guy we had no other choice but to turn too.


He's simply not a big time CFB QB. He's a good back up.

For f*ck's sake, pat. Give up the hate. There are 120 starting QBs in DI-FBS football. Is it really that hard to admit that Rees might be better than 65 or 70 of those guys?

 

[Irish Insanity]

Actually, they don't use "Maize" anymore. After they switched jersey manufacturers they could not longer use that because it was trademarked. They're now the "Sun and Blue" which may be even stupider.

I knew they changed manufacturers and that Maize wasn't allowed to be used anymore, but I didn't know they actually replaced it with 'Sun'. 'Sun and Blue' sounds stupid, well 'Maize and Blue' wasn't much better.

 

[BGIF]

Actually, they don't use "Maize" anymore. After they switched jersey manufacturers they could not longer use that because it was trademarked. They're now the "Sun and Blue" which may be even stupider.

They actually did change to "Sun" but they continue the deception that their color is Maize similar to their bogus claim about the unique "winged" helmet they ripped off from Princeton.


Maize of Lies

Uniple sources made The-Ozone aware Wednesday evening of one of the great deceptions in modern American sports—the University of Michigan's beloved color of "Maize" is, in fact, called "Sun", and not "Maize".

A July 18, 2010 piece appearing in The Michigan Daily, which is the University of Michigan student newspaper, details the deception, which began in 2007 when the athletic department signed an apparel deal with Adidas, thus ending their relationship with Nike.

"Nike also copyrighted the color 'Maize,' so Adidas actually had to make a new version of our school color, now known as 'Sun'..."

However, if you go to the Offical Micigan Football site you find:

Maize and Blue - MGOBLUE.COM - University of Michigan Official Athletic Site

Maize and Blue

Along with the famous Winged Helmet, Maize and Blue are some of the most recognizable icons in college history. Since the turn-of-the-century, Michigan athletes have worn Maize and Blue on the playing field.

The selection of school colors for Michigan has an interesting background. The first recorded association of any color with the University appears in 1859, when a ribbon of deep blue was attached to the diploma of an Elisha Jones. It was not until 1867 that a group of students formally met and adopted azure blue and maize as its official school colors. However, no one actually specified the exact colors until 1912, when school officials chose fabric ribbons depicting the actual shades.

The athletic department adopted its own shades of deep blue and bright yellow (gold) and Michigan athletic teams have been wearing the Maize and Blue for more than 100 years.

I like the last sentence were they slip in the word, "gold" as there color.

Often imitators; rarely innovators.

 

[ulukinatme]

They actually did change to "Sun" but they continue the deception that their color is Maize similar to their bogus claim about the unique "winged" helmet they ripped off from Princeton.


Maize of Lies





However, if you go to the Offical Micigan Football site you find:

Maize and Blue - MGOBLUE.COM - University of Michigan Official Athletic Site

I'm just going to assume that MGoBlow didn't get the memo, or Nike isn't aware and hasn't sued thier *** yet.

 

[IrishSteelhead]

Even Michigan State wore winged helmets before Michigan did.

IMO, who cares. scUM popularized winged helmets, so it doesn't matter if MSU and Princeton had them first. I liken this debate to the "PLAC" sign.

 

[BGIF]

Even Michigan State wore winged helmets before Michigan did.

IMO, who cares. scUM popularized winged helmets, so it doesn't matter if MSU and Princeton had them first. I liken this debate to the "PLAC" sign.

Princeton won a National Championship in 1935 in those helmets.

Michigan didn't do that until 13 years later. They've won a half title since.



Michigan's winning percentage in the winged helmets is .719.

Prior to donning their ugly hats their winning percentage was .763.

 

[drayer54]

Princeton won a National Championship in 1935 in those helmets.

Michigan didn't do that until 13 years later. They've won a half title since.



Michigan's winning percentage in the winged helmets is .719.

Prior to donning their ugly hats their winning percentage was .763.

Nebraska was the undisputed greatest team in the world that year. Michigan claiming a national title is like TCU claiming one a few years back because they didn't lose.

 

[Junkhead]

For f*ck's sake, pat. Give up the hate. There are 120 starting QBs in DI-FBS football. Is it really that hard to admit that Rees might be better than 65 or 70 of those guys?

65 or 70? Tommy is better than 115 of them after week 1. The Heisman coronation will have to wait a few more weeks though.

 

[clashmore_jon]

He's middle of the pack on a good day. He can't move. Wait til he sees 8-9 in coverage.

I'm not doubting that he can make all the throws (maybe lacks a bit of arm strength) but he's not one of better QB's in CFB. Othewise, he'd be starting QB over the last 2 years. He's simply the guy we had no other choice but to turn too.


He's simply not a big time CFB QB. He's a good back up.

You mean Amir o'clock?

 

[BGIF]

5 stats to know: Notre Dame at Michigan - Stats & Info Blog - ESPN

2. Tommy Rees has completed 57 percent of his passes thrown 20 yards or longer in the last two seasons, 19 percentage points higher than Everett Golson. Rees had two touchdowns on such passes in Week 1 vs. Temple, both going to DaVaris Daniels.

Rees had a career-high seven completions that gained 20 yards or more against the Owls. That’s the most by a Notre Dame quarterback since Jimmy Clausen had seven in 2009 against Washington.

Michigan has allowed six touchdowns and has no interceptions on passes thrown 20 yards or longer since the start of last season. The Wolverines and Utah are the only two AQ defenses that do not have an interception on such passes.

 

[Cackalacky]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>If you ever look down at the field and only see one pair of footprints, thats when <a href="https://twitter.com/search?q=%23Reesus&src=hash">#Reesus</a> was carrying the team</p>— Josh Schultz (@josh_schultz24) <a href="https://twitter.com/josh_schultz24/statuses/375425622228480000">September 5, 2013</a></blockquote>
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I am starting to feel the faith.

 

[ndfi78]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>If you ever look down at the field and only see one pair of footprints, thats when <a href="https://twitter.com/search?q=%23Reesus&src=hash">#Reesus</a> was carrying the team</p>— Josh Schultz (@josh_schultz24) <a href="https://twitter.com/josh_schultz24/statuses/375425622228480000">September 5, 2013</a></blockquote>
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I literally LOLed at that one.

 

[Cackalacky]

5 stats to know: Notre Dame at Michigan - Stats & Info Blog - ESPN
Rees had a career-high seven completions that gained 20 yards or more against the Owls. That’s the most by a Notre Dame quarterback since Jimmy Clausen had seven in 2009 against Washington.

Michigan has allowed six touchdowns and has no interceptions on passes thrown 20 yards or longer since the start of last season. The Wolverines and Utah are the only two AQ defenses that do not have an interception on such passes

We need our WRs to get vertical. Might open up the run game.

 

[kmoose]

We need our WRs to get vertical. Might open up the run game.

Let's hope that the O-line opens up the run game...

 

[BGIF]

We need our WRs to get vertical. Might open up the run game.

So we need to pass to run rather than run to pass?

I could have sworn Carlisle's 45 yd sweep, followed by GA's tackle breaking rumble up the middle for another first down, set up the 32 yd TD strike to Daniels against single coverage.

Did I get that sequence wrong?

 

[Cackalacky]

So we need to pass to run rather than run to pass?

I could have sworn Carlisle's 45 yd sweep, followed by GA's tackle breaking rumble up the middle for another first down, set up the 32 yd TD strike to Daniels against single coverage.

Did I get that sequence wrong?

LOL.:embarrass. You are right. I literally typed out that same statement and erased it before posting what I posted. Don't mind me. I'll take either or as long as we beat them.

 

[BGIF]

Rees 314 yds gives him 5073 career yds and moves him pasr Jarious Jackson into 6th place on the ND All-Time Passing list.

Rick Mirer is in 5th place with 5997.

 

[Irish Insanity]

REESUS

that is all

 

[BGIF]

Career TDs

Career TDs

1. Quinn 95
2. Clausen 60
3. Powlus 52
4. Mirer 41
5. Rees 39
6. Jackson 34
7. Beuerlein 27
8. Montana 25

 

[BGIF]

Career INTs

Career INTs

1. Beuerlein 44
2. Quinn 39
3. Kiel 32
4. Clements 29
5. Clausen 27
5. Powlus 27
7. Rees 26
8. Montana 25

 

[anarin]

1. Beuerlein 44
2. Quinn 39
3. Kiel 32
4. Clements 29
5. Clausen 27
5. Powlus 27
7. Rees 26
8. Montana 25

Crazy that one of the greatest QB's in NFL history was 25 and 25 td/ints in college. Never know I guess.

 

[IrishLion]

Crazy that one of the greatest QB's in NFL history was 25 and 25 td/ints in college. Never know I guess.

So you're saying Rees > Montana?

 

[MJ12666]

So we need to pass to run rather than run to pass?

I could have sworn Carlisle's 45 yd sweep, followed by GA's tackle breaking rumble up the middle for another first down, set up the 32 yd TD strike to Daniels against single coverage.

Did I get that sequence wrong?

While you are correct in this particular instance, and as a general rule if you can establish a good running attack the defense is susceptible to play action passes, ND does not have a power running game; and while they may not need to pass to run, they definitely need to spread the field out to run effectively. For example, against Temple on a third and two they attempted to run and were stopped for a loss. In the second series against Michigan they had third and I believe three, attempted to run and did not come close to making the first. Additionally, if my memory serves me correctly, they attempted to establish the run in the first two series in the Michigan game and did not get one first down. Now if you can provide some examples from the first two games where they lined up in a tight formation and ran effectively than I will cede the point that ND has an effective power running game that should be utilized with greater frequency in their game plan.

 

[Buster Bluth]

1. Quinn 95
2. Clausen 60
3. Powlus 52
4. Mirer 41
5. Rees 39
6. Jackson 34
7. Beuerlein 27
8. Montana 25

Rees will probably end third, which is just crazy.

Just wait until Kelly gets a QB who fits his program to stick around...

 

[BGIF]

While you are correct in this particular instance, and as a general rule if you can establish a good running attack the defense is susceptible to play action passes, ND does not have a power running game; and while they may not need to pass to run, they definitely need to spread the field out to run effectively. For example, against Temple on a third and two they attempted to run and were stopped for a loss. In the second series against Michigan they had third and I believe three, attempted to run and did not come close to making the first. Additionally, if my memory serves me correctly, they attempted to establish the run in the first two series in the Michigan game and did not get one first down. Now if you can provide some examples from the first two games where they lined up in a tight formation and ran effectively than I will cede the point that ND has an effective power running game that should be utilized with greater frequency in their game plan.

Why would you "cede the point that ND has an effective power running game that should be utilized with greater frequency in their game plan"?

No one was discussing Power Running Game until you interjected it with this post. Go back and read Post #1066. I cut and pasted a snippet of Keith's "Five Things We Learned" from the Temple game BEFORE the Michigan game.

Cackalacky, Kmoose, and I exchanged simple banter based on that snippet. You initiated a new topic, one I see you arguing over in the Post Game Thread.


ND has NOT had a real Power Running Game since '93 when Aaron Taylor, Ruddy, and Norman were ND's last great OLine. Zellars and Edwards were the FBs, Becton was a bell cow, and Burris moved from FS to Touchdown Maker in the Red Zone Full House Backfield. Zellars, Becton, and Burris three POWER runners behind an All-American OT. And there were 3 TEs named McBride, Chryplewicz, and Wallace to beef up that great OLine in short yardage. ND use to crank out 260 - 280 yds a game back then and a lot of rushing TDs - BECAUSE THEY COULD!

Then Holtz realizing the Option had seen it's day moved to the Blarney Offense and running was de-emphasized until Holtz realized he didn't have the receiving corps for that offense. So then he tried to have Powlus run the Option mixed in with Pro Sets, that didn't work so well either, did it?

Then ND had the Davie "I don't know what the hell Offense I have" followed by the Willingham "West Coast with little talent Offense and a lousy O.C." followed by the Weis "Schematic Advantage Offense with Willingham's recruits". The running game dwindled.

Now ND has Kelly's "Uptempo Spread" except there is no Uptempo 80 plays a game. There is no "Call and Haul" QB. There hasn't been either for 4 seasons. Golson was mobile but he couldn't "Call" at all. Check his Red Zone numbers, they stink. Rees can "Call" but his only positive "Haul" was a TD, the rest, all sacks. And Crist had trouble with the "Call" (head) AND the "Haul" (two knee surgeries).

 

[BGIF]

Rees will probably end third, which is just crazy.

Just wait until Kelly gets a QB who fits his program to stick around...

IF Rees stays on his current production rate, he'd pass Clausen and end up 2nd in most categories. He'd end up 2nd for TDs behind only Quinn, and 3rd for INTs behind Beuerlein and Quinn. He already #1in % Completions.

He's on pace for 4000 yds, 30 TDs, 12 INTs. Of course, MILEAGE DOES VARY. It's not a prediction but a simple projection of YTD. IF he does hit those numbers, he'd end up with 64 TDs and 36 INTs.

 

[Irishbounty28]

I don't think power runs are specific to certain formations. There are teams that run power out of the spread, Guz Malzahn being one of them.

We are not currently a team that focuses on power out of the spread, but it is something that is done around the country. I believe Clemson runs a power spread based offensive system.

I do agree that our offense lacks some power principles in any offensive set, but where I may differ is the ideology that power is specific to certain sets.