Brady Quinn signed by the Jets

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Well, if Brady stays healthy, he wants to play for another five years, which I think it a fantasy, but it's already been two years.

Not sure how long Mallett wants to stay on the sidelines, honestly.

Brady signed an extension this offseason that keeps him in NE through 2017 (five more seasons including this one). I personally think he's going to do it, if healthy. An injury is the only thing I see holding him back. Reports out of camp are that he looks better now at age 36 than he ever has. Maybe banging a Brazilian model is the new fountain of youth?

Mallett isn't going to have a choice in the matter. He's under contract through next season but he'll likely be dealt this offseason. I wouldn't be surprised to see NE bring back Tebow either during the season or in the offseason when they unload Mallett.
 

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Funny you should say that

Mark Sanchez Stats, News, Videos, Highlights, Pictures, Bio - New York Jets - ESPN

Tim Tebow Stats - ESPN

So Tebow has 17 tds to 9 int. Sanchez has 68 tds and 69 int. Tebow has 75.3 QB rating and Sanchez has a 71.7 QB rating. Just saying.

Interesting that you leave out his completion percentage, yardage, attempts advantage, you know things that are fairly important for a quarterback.

Just Saying.

Sanchez has also been to back to back AFC CG appearances, including 4 road playoff wins, you know something else Timmy has never done or will do.

Oh, and also the fact that Sanchez can actually throw a spiral and not wormburners like Timmy.
 
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Interesting that you leave out his completion percentage, yardage, attempts advantage, you know things that are fairly important for a quarterback.

Just Saying.

I agree about completion percentage. But the yards, and attempts just means that he had more opportunity. What the Hell does that mean? That Rex Ryan is an idiot for staying with him? Those mean nothing. Nice try.
 

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Brady signed an extension this offseason that keeps him in NE through 2017 (five more seasons including this one). I personally think he's going to do it, if healthy. An injury is the only thing I see holding him back. Reports out of camp are that he looks better now at age 36 than he ever has. Maybe banging a Brazilian model is the new fountain of youth?

Mallett isn't going to have a choice in the matter. He's under contract through next season but he'll likely be dealt this offseason. I wouldn't be surprised to see NE bring back Tebow either during the season or in the offseason when they unload Mallett.

Tebow as the backup to Brady??

Are you insane? Mallett is many times over the better option because NE does not run an offense that Tebow can operate.


Look at what happened when Brady went down before in 2008. Matt Cassel, another USC product actually who played behind Leinart, went out and had a career year because he COULD throw, had no major hitch in his delivery, and could make quick decisions.

Bringing back Tebow would mean that they would be wasting a roster spot on a person who cannot even spell Brady in practice.

I hate BB with a passion because he is a liar and a cheat, but he is not stupid or wasteful when it comes to personnel, so I don't think for a second that Tebow would ever get the call from NE to back up the QB position, ever.
 

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"....if you can't make all the throws, you can't play in this league." Y! SPORTS

For any league, the premium on QB is their ability to make all the throws, make accurate reads, have proper footwork and many other things that Tim cannot do, even after years of football.

I would say it is Urban's fault, except for the fact that he ran and created an offense that was perfect for Tim, whereas even the read option is not suited for Tebow because again you would NEVER have to respect his "passing ability", since he has none.
 
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Tebow as the backup to Brady??

Are you insane? Mallett is many times over the better option because NE does not run an offense that Tebow can operate.


Look at what happened when Brady went down before in 2008. Matt Cassel, another USC product actually who played behind Leinart, went out and had a career year because he COULD throw, had no major hitch in his delivery, and could make quick decisions.

Bringing back Tebow would mean that they would be wasting a roster spot on a person who cannot even spell Brady in practice.

I hate BB with a passion because he is a liar and a cheat, but he is not stupid or wasteful when it comes to personnel, so I don't think for a second that Tebow would ever get the call from NE to back up the QB position, ever.

I agree Mallett is a better option than Tebow, but the consensus in these parts is the Pats will unload Mallett and try to get some draft compensation in return. They were looking to deal him this year and won't let him play out his contract and then walk. BB doesn't operate that way.

So what are their choices? 1.) Draft a rookie to backup Brady or 2.) Bring in a free agent. Don't discount the fact both Belichick and McDaniels (drafted Tebow) love Tebow and are arrogant enough to think they can develop him into a serviceable backup. You can point to all the stats you want, but Tebow is a winner with the "it" factor. I'd love for him to backup Brady.
 

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I agree about completion percentage. But the yards, and attempts just means that he had more opportunity. What the Hell does that mean? That Rex Ryan is an idiot for staying with him? Those mean nothing. Nice try.

Um, the reason that Sanchez got all those extra reps is BECAUSE he was better than Tebow, who by the way was only Sanchez's teammate for ONE year.

Completion percentage is KIND OF a BIG deal for a QB and Tebow was WAY below average, you know?

Also, Sanchez has a MUCH better track record as a QB than Tim ever did or ever will,

When Tebow wins 4 road games in the playoffs, something that very very few NFL QBs have ever done, get back to me.

Tebow is a natural leader, but if he wants a job in the NFL, then he NEEDS to stop trying to be a QB because is not and never will be a good one, ever.
 
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I agree Mallett is a better option than Tebow, but the consensus in these parts is the Pats will unload Mallett and try to get some draft compensation in return. They were looking to deal him this year and won't let him play out his contract and then walk. BB doesn't operate that way.

So what are their choices? 1.) Draft a rookie to backup Brady or 2.) Bring in a free agent. Don't discount the fact both Belichick and McDaniels (drafted Tebow) love Tebow and are arrogant enough to think they can develop him into a serviceable backup. You can point to all the stats you want, but Tebow is a winner with the "it" factor. I'd love for him to backup Brady.

No, you would not. Unless Brady never get hurt, which is kinda iffy if you look at how scared the team and fans were when he went down in a practice, in which typically QBs are not ever supposed to be touched.

I agree that they will likely want to move Mallett, but they could also just re-sign him because, if anything, this little tryout with Timmy should have showed that they can not mold him into a serviceable QB.

Winners with it factors are nice, but you need more than an it factor to be a GREAT QB. You actually have to have SKILLS, mental and physical, to win in the NFL.

Tebow has no physical skills or mental skills to be a good enough QB to take up a roster spot. Anyone who thinks otherwise is fooling themselves.
 

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Um, the reason that Sanchez got all those extra reps is BECAUSE he was better than Tebow, who by the way was only Sanchez's teammate for ONE year.

When Tebow wins 4 road games in the playoffs, something that very very few NFL QBs have ever done, get back to me.
Tebow is a natural leader, but if he wants a job in the NFL, then he NEEDS to stop trying to be a QB because is not and never will be a good one, ever.

I laughed at this. You earlier point out that Denver beat Pittsburgh in spite of Tebow but then talk about Sanchez winning 4 road playoff games. You just made the same argument for Sanchez that you criticized for Tebow. I think you have a mancrush on Sanchez.
 

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I agree Mallett is a better option than Tebow, but the consensus in these parts is the Pats will unload Mallett and try to get some draft compensation in return. They were looking to deal him this year and won't let him play out his contract and then walk. BB doesn't operate that way.

So what are their choices? 1.) Draft a rookie to backup Brady or 2.) Bring in a free agent. Don't discount the fact both Belichick and McDaniels (drafted Tebow) love Tebow and are arrogant enough to think they can develop him into a serviceable backup. You can point to all the stats you want, but Tebow is a winner with the "it" factor. I'd love for him to backup Brady.

No, you would not. Unless Brady never get hurt, which is kinda iffy if you look at how scared the team and fans were when he went down in a practice, in which typically QBs are not ever supposed to be touched.

I agree that they will likely want to move Mallett, but they could also just re-sign him because, if anything, this little tryout with Timmy should have showed that they can not mold him into a serviceable QB.

Winners with it factors are nice, but you need more than an it factor to be a GREAT QB. You actually have to have SKILLS, mental and physical, to win in the NFL.

Tebow has no physical skills or mental skills to be a good enough QB to take up a roster spot. Anyone who thinks otherwise is fooling themselves.
 

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What makes you think Mallett would re-sign to be a backup for another 3-4 years? Stop fooling yourself.

Your anti-Tebow rants are annoying and not registering with me. You turned a "Tebow didn't get a fair shot from the Jets" comment, which is 100% true, into an opportunity to bash him. We get it. You don't like Tebow. Move along...
 

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Good for Brady.

P.s.

Remember when the contents of a link were about the player on the title of that link.
 

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Good for Brady.

P.s.

Remember when the contents of a link were about the player on the title of that link.

Seriously. This is not the Sanchez vs Tebow thread. Anyway, I felt sorry for Quinn, hearing he got cut. I'm not sure he has the accuracy to ever be a starter, but I no longer feel sorry for him knowing he makes at least $715,000 a year, gets to travel, and doesn't take a beating. And he also has an ND degree, and I bet is smart enough to not blow all his cash on his "entourage". If anyone here has a better job that than, I'd be amazed.
 
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Seriously. This is not the Sanchez vs Tebow thread. Anyway, I felt sorry for Quinn, hearing he got cut. I'm not sure he has the accuracy to ever be a starter, but I no longer feel sorry for him knowing he makes at least $715,000 a year, gets to travel, and doesn't take a beating. If anyone here has a better job that than, I'd be amazed.

That would be a great job.
 

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What makes you think Mallett would re-sign to be a backup for another 3-4 years? Stop fooling yourself.

Your anti-Tebow rants are annoying and not registering with me. You turned a "Tebow didn't get a fair shot from the Jets" comment, which is 100% true, into an opportunity to bash him. We get it. You don't like Tebow. Move along...

No, I do not dislike him at all. I personally think that he is WAY overrated as a QB.

It is just that simple, and instead of saying that the Jets screwed him over--which may well be true, while also true that he had his shot to unseat Sanchez and never could (and he was actually 3rd on the depth chart behind BRADY QUINN) before McDaniels decided to go against convention and elevate Tebow to the starter when Orton went down.

Personally, I do not think that Quinn gets on the field much more than Tebow did, but he is STILL a better QB than Tebow.

So good luck to Brady in NY and to Timmy in whatever else he does with his life.

As I said, I think that he would be an excellent motivational speaker. I know that they sold out the FedEx Forum in Memphis for him, and that typically only happens when the Grizzlies are in the playoffs or someone like Justin Timberlake comes back home to perform in Memphis, which he will in November.

So yeah, I think he is a great person, just not a great QB.

Brady Quinn is much more suited to being a backup QB than Tebow, and if he unseats Sanchez, that would be interesting, but you never know how things will work out.
 

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It is just that simple, and instead of saying that the Jets screwed him over--which may well be true, while also true that he had his shot to unseat Sanchez and never could (and he was actually 3rd on the depth chart behind BRADY QUINN) before McDaniels decided to go against convention and elevate Tebow to the starter when Orton went down.

No he didn't. THAT'S THE POINT!!! The HC didn't want to give Tebow a fair shot. Do you remember how bad Sanchez was that year? Ryan still refused to play Tebow. You would argue that's because Tebow isn't any good, but I'd argue it's because Ryan is a stubborn prick and didn't want to give in to the pressure and admit he made a mistake with Sanchez. Regardless, Tebow didn't get a fair shot.

Getting back to Quinn...has the environment changed? I'm not convinced it has. Ryan still wants to prove Sanchez is a viable QB, and if he stinks, he'll want to prove the rookie QB is the future. I don't know the ins-and-outs of the internal politics in the Jets office, but I'm confident in saying the best QB doesn't always get a chance to play. That doesn't bode well for Mr. Quinn.

And all of you people saying he has a great job because he's getting paid a lot of money to hold a clipboard...while that's true, elite athletes want a chance to play and compete. If you asked Quinn would he rather be the starting QB and not get paid or get paid $700,000 and sit on the bench, I bet he'd choose to play.
 

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No he didn't. THAT'S THE POINT!!! The HC didn't want to give Tebow a fair shot. Do you remember how bad Sanchez was that year? Ryan still refused to play Tebow. You would argue that's because Tebow isn't any good, but I'd argue it's because Ryan is a stubborn prick and didn't want to give in to the pressure and admit he made a mistake with Sanchez. Regardless, Tebow didn't get a fair shot.

All due respect (and then I'll bow out of the hijacked thread), Ryan saw him every day in practice for a full season. Maybe he really didn't want him, but maybe Tebow made it very clear in that time that he's not an NFL QB. We keep hearing that his (Tebow's) mechanics have gotten better. Put him in a pre-season game and it's just as long as ever. Probably why he got cut again.

Reminds me of people criticizing BK over Rees vs. Crist or Rees vs. Hendrix. I trust that the guy who sees them every day has some insights that I do not.
 

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All due respect (and then I'll bow out of the hijacked thread), Ryan saw him every day in practice for a full season. Maybe he really didn't want him, but maybe Tebow made it very clear in that time that he's not an NFL QB. We keep hearing that his (Tebow's) mechanics have gotten better. Put him in a pre-season game and it's just as long as ever. Probably why he got cut again.

Reminds me of people criticizing BK over Rees vs. Crist or Rees vs. Hendrix. I trust that the guy who sees them every day has some insights that I do not.

99 out of 100 times I agree with you on this. But in this instance, there was more at play and a lot of "experts" have discussed how unfairly Tebow was treated in NY. They didn't give him a chance. I hope Quinn is treated better.
 

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This is prolly Quinn's last year in the league.

I sure hope he's been working on his insurance/finance marketing skills. There's real gold to be made selling to fellow alums.
 

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According to reports the Jets may re-sign Quinn Monday probably for less money.
 

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translation: Quinn will be the 3rd qb on the roster, and will basically ride the bench all year and collect game checks. still beats working a real job
 

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logical move by the jets as if they kept him they would have to pay him guaranteed money
 
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