'14 FL WR Corey Holmes (Notre Dame Signee)

[NDdomer2]

sounds like nd. how is Mora not there, or maybe he was but that quote made it sound like he wasn't.

 

[koonja]

Paging Buster? Aww hell, I'll do it. Current rankings for our next recruit:

Scout: #34 WR.
Rivals: #31 WR
ESPN: 84 rating (one of our highest)
247: 90 rating
247composite: .92

 

[andre784]

Well he's most likely gonna be Irish. If his decision is based on playing time according the new update, UCLA has 3 WR recruits already while we just have Brent committed so he should lean our way I would think.

 

[koonja]

Well he's most likely gonna be Irish. If his decision is based on playing time according the new update, UCLA has 3 WR recruits already while we just have Brent committed so he should lean our way I would think.

Plus we have 2 transfers in the classes above him, and our two best receivers have a combined 3 yeas eligibility left, and that's including this season.

 

[Domina Nostra]

Before the trip, he basically said ND unless UCLA blows him away... If it does, he'll also consider other schools as well.

Since it's now down to ND and UCLA, that should mean ND. Smart kid, UCLA is fools gold.

 

[Redbar]

Before the trip, he basically said ND unless UCLA blows him away... If it does, he'll also consider other schools as well.

Since it's now down to ND and UCLA, that should mean ND. Smart kid, UCLA is fools gold.

You are absolutely right here, he did say that. I think he enjoyed UCLA but, I did not get the feeling that he was blown away. Cautiously optimistic, here.

 

[BleedBlueGold]

I believe Izzy is a lock once admissions processes him. That realistically leaves just 2 spots. If Holmes jumps on board then it's only one spot remaining for Quick, Dupre and Lazard. I would not want to turn away any of those guys and certainly not two of them. Again I like Holmes a lot but not better than those other 3 guys.

I could be completely wrong, but is it possible the staff slow plays Izzy? Quick is the #1 Z and eventhough he could also play DB, I'm not sure the staff would use a spot on Izzy if they could get Quick.

My opinion:

WR1) Dupre
WR2) Brent
WR3) Holmes
WR4) Quick

Then you could make a case for the staff possibly taking a 5th if Izzy, Lazard, or someone else decides to come in later and after the staff has a better idea about Dupre, Quick, Holmes.

You could also make a case for Juju Smith and Quick being ATH and the staff taking them regardless and sorting the situation out later. Meaning, they may accept Izzy and Quick. Who knows...

Personally, I'm good with the slow play/saving spots technique for now. It's still early and it seems like the staff is hitting OLB/DE hard as well. I'd rather have a spot for Chad Thomas (if he so chooses) over Izzy (if he's cleared) but that's just me.

As far as Holmes, I have a good feeling he'll be Irish in the coming days.

 

[Rizzophil]

I don't think we have better than a 25% chance of getting Depre

 

[PANDFAN]

I could be completely wrong, but is it possible the staff slow plays Izzy? Quick is the #1 Z and eventhough he could also play DB, I'm not sure the staff would use a spot on Izzy if they could get Quick.

My opinion:

WR1) Dupre
WR2) Brent
WR3) Holmes
WR4) Quick

Then you could make a case for the staff possibly taking a 5th if Izzy, Lazard, or someone else decides to come in later and after the staff has a better idea about Dupre, Quick, Holmes.

You could also make a case for Juju Smith and Quick being ATH and the staff taking them regardless and sorting the situation out later. Meaning, they may accept Izzy and Quick. Who knows...

Personally, I'm good with the slow play/saving spots technique for now. It's still early and it seems like the staff is hitting OLB/DE hard as well. I'd rather have a spot for Chad Thomas (if he so chooses) over Izzy (if he's cleared) but that's just me.

As far as Holmes, I have a good feeling he'll be Irish in the coming days.

we play this game every year and we always end up w/ extra scholarships...sign up boys and natural attrition will take place

 

[OCIrish]

I don't think we have better than a 25% chance of getting Depre

Well, I think we have 0% chance at Depre.......Dupre, on the other hand......gotta like it better than 25%!!

 

[BleedBlueGold]

we play this game every year and we always end up w/ extra scholarships...sign up boys and natural attrition will take place

I'd love to have that policy, but ND doesn't oversign so they have to be picky and play their cards just right. Signing anyone and everyone early, immediately removes the possibility of landing a prospect who's deciding later or on NSD. Conversely, saving too many spots for NSD guys can leave you empty handed in the end. ND has to play the middle ground. Take some now, save some for later. I hate it, but it's the reality.

 

[IrishinTN]

May not be enough spots available. Do you turn away Elam, Holley, Watkins, Smith, Carter, Williams, Yeargin, Luatua? At some point you can't say so and so has a spot reserved. At some point you simply run out of room.

The guys at 247 say this class will be bigger than most people think, around 25 (where the estimate had been 18 prior to the recruiting season) so I do believe there will be room for elites, but only elites, once spots starting drying up.

 

[STLDomer]

I expect 24 right now:

1 QB
1 RB
4 WR
4 OL
3 DE
1 DT
2 OLB
2 ILB
2 DB

That's 20. Add in best available for the remaining spots IMO

 

[PANDFAN]

I'd love to have that policy, but ND doesn't oversign so they have to be picky and play their cards just right. Signing anyone and everyone early, immediately removes the possibility of landing a prospect who's deciding later or on NSD. Conversely, saving too many spots for NSD guys can leave you empty handed in the end. ND has to play the middle ground. Take some now, save some for later. I hate it, but it's the reality.

ask only position need and contributors for 5th years...career ending injuries can happen over the course of the season...all before signing day...i realize the 5th years are not asked until after signing day but you can def see who you would even want to ask back before then

 

[BleedBlueGold]

I expect 24 right now:

1 QB
1 RB
4 WR
4 OL
3 DE
1 DT
2 OLB
2 ILB
2 DB

That's 20. Add in best available for the remaining spots IMO

You left out TE. Plus you almost need an ATH category w/ the way this staff recruits. Also, it's hard to predict how many LB and DE the staff will take considering some (Blakenship) will grow into that position but start at CAT.

 

[STLDomer]

You left out TE. Plus you almost need an ATH category w/ the way this staff recruits. Also, it's hard to predict how many LB and DE the staff will take considering some (Blakenship) will grow into that position but start at CAT.

Good catch

2 TE. That's 22, and I'm pretty confident in the other numbers.

 

[dublinirish]

edit: NVM

 

[Domina Nostra]

I expect us to go after 25, 26 if we go after a 2nd QB:

QB: 2 (2)
RB: 1 (3)
WR: 4 (7)
TE: 2 (9)
OL: 4 (13)
DT: 1 (14)
DE: 4 (18)
OLB:3 (21)
ILB: 2 (23)
DB: 2 (25)
K: 1 (26)

 

[STLDomer]

Damn I forgot Newsome was only scholly. That's 23

 

[STLDomer]

I expect us to go after 25, 26 if we go after a 2nd QB:

QB: 2 (2)
RB: 1 (3)
WR: 4 (7)
TE: 2 (9)
OL: 4 (13)
DT: 1 (14)
DE: 4 (18)
OLB:3 (21)
ILB: 2 (23)
DB: 2 (25)
K: 1 (26)

Do you expect us to oversign or have more attrition? The widely expected number at the moment is 24, maybe 25. I've never seen anyone expect 26.

Just in case, that was a serious question, if u say more attrition I couldn't argue with that as a transfer or medical redshirt would not be suprising at all

 

[Domina Nostra]

Do you expect us to oversign or have more attrition? The widely expected number at the moment is 24, maybe 25. I've never seen anyone expect 26.

I don't expect us to oversign.

What I mean is that I think we are aiming at a 25-26 man class (depending on how we assess the QB situation), and we will see what happens by February. The fact is that we have some recruits who are too good to slow play who want to jump on early, and some elite recruits with legitimate interest that want to play things out. That means we are going to have to stay open.

If the roster won't accomodate 26 by February, then I think we could easily survive taking 3 WRs, 2 OLBs, or 3 DEs, or some combination thereof. Some of the guys that we will be chasing at these positions will not have committed by then.

The DE/OLB and the OLB/ILB numbers are very fluid.

QB: 2 (2)
RB: 1 (3)
WR: 4 (7)
TE: 2 (9)
OL: 4 (13)
DT: 1 (14)
DE: 4 (18)
OLB:3 (21)
ILB: 2 (23)
DB: 2 (25)
K: 1 (26)

 

[STLDomer]

I don't expect us to oversign.

What I mean is that I think we are aiming at a 25-26 man class (depending on how we assess the QB situation), and we will see what happens by February. If the roster won't allow it by then, the 24 number sounds reasonable, and I think we could easily survive taking 3 WRs, 2 OLBs, or 3 DEs, or some combination thereof.

The DE/OLB and the OLB/ILB numbers are very fluid.

QB: 2 (2)
RB: 1 (3)
WR: 4 (7)
TE: 2 (9)
OL: 4 (13)
DT: 1 (14)
DE: 4 (18)
OLB:3 (21)
ILB: 2 (23)
DB: 2 (25)
K: 1 (26)

I gotcha, obviously that extra one for a second QB is a big number

 

[BleedBlueGold]

It'd almost be easier to say Front 7: 10

These kids are going to grow and change positions. It's impossible to tell where they'll end up. DL/LB or Front7 is how I'd start classifying if I'm making charts...just my opinion.

 

[Fbolt]

A ton of talk about taking elite players-a word of caution-ND needs to overcome some hurdles and win this year. Another solid season and then the elite players will sign up. As has been stated for years, stringing together solid top 10 teams will put the Irish on the short list of many of the prospects Kelly and Co. are looking at.

 

[arrowryan]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p><a href="https://twitter.com/search?q=%23Rivals250&src=hash">#Rivals250</a> WR Corey Holmes previews a decision between <a href="https://twitter.com/search?q=%23NotreDame&src=hash">#NotreDame</a> and <a href="https://twitter.com/search?q=%23UCLA&src=hash">#UCLA</a> to come next week ($): <a href="http://t.co/k6vW5xuEVV">http://t.co/k6vW5xuEVV</a></p>— Jake Brown (@Jake_Brown) <a href="https://twitter.com/Jake_Brown/statuses/355722767515140097">July 12, 2013</a></blockquote>
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[Domina Nostra]

A ton of talk about taking elite players-a word of caution-ND needs to overcome some hurdles and win this year. Another solid season and then the elite players will sign up. As has been stated for years, stringing together solid top 10 teams will put the Irish on the short list of many of the prospects Kelly and Co. are looking at.

Amen. A lot of prospects who are Irish fans or who love the tradition are coming out of the woodwork, but the Irish weren't an option for them at 6-6.

 

[dwshade]

I could be completely wrong, but is it possible the staff slow plays Izzy? Quick is the #1 Z and eventhough he could also play DB, I'm not sure the staff would use a spot on Izzy if they could get Quick.

My opinion:

WR1) Dupre
WR2) Brent
WR3) Holmes
WR4) Quick

Then you could make a case for the staff possibly taking a 5th if Izzy, Lazard, or someone else decides to come in later and after the staff has a better idea about Dupre, Quick, Holmes.

You could also make a case for Juju Smith and Quick being ATH and the staff taking them regardless and sorting the situation out later. Meaning, they may accept Izzy and Quick. Who knows...

Personally, I'm good with the slow play/saving spots technique for now. It's still early and it seems like the staff is hitting OLB/DE hard as well. I'd rather have a spot for Chad Thomas (if he so chooses) over Izzy (if he's cleared) but that's just me.

As far as Holmes, I have a good feeling he'll be Irish in the coming days.

I think we have a far better shot with Lazard than with Dupre.

 

[Luckylucci]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p><a href="https://twitter.com/search?q=%23Rivals250&src=hash">#Rivals250</a> WR Corey Holmes previews a decision between <a href="https://twitter.com/search?q=%23NotreDame&src=hash">#NotreDame</a> and <a href="https://twitter.com/search?q=%23UCLA&src=hash">#UCLA</a> to come next week ($): <a href="http://t.co/k6vW5xuEVV">http://t.co/k6vW5xuEVV</a></p>— Jake Brown (@Jake_Brown) <a href="https://twitter.com/Jake_Brown/statuses/355722767515140097">July 12, 2013</a></blockquote>
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Not much there that we don't already know. Talked about his UCLA visit. Obviously enjoyed himself which should be expected. I haven't seen anything that would make me think he's going to be a Bruin after all the love he's shown ND. We've been on this kid for a long long time and his relationship with UCLA can't even come close to comparing to his relationship with Alford and ND. Those are my thoughts. ND all the way sometime next week.

 

[NDFAN22]

Id assume that with the quick turn around decision its ND. Especially earlier i seem to remember talk about really slowing things down for officials if it was going to be tough.

 

[Luckylucci]

Id assume that with the quick turn around decision its ND. Especially earlier i seem to remember talk about really slowing things down for officials if it was going to be tough.

Correct, he said that if the UCLA visit had a major impact he was going to go into the official visit mode.