CONFIRMED: Golson No Longer Enrolled At ND

[rtrn2glory]

prolly a dumb question, but can he play football there?

 

[Kingbish01]

I thought it has already be said that he was never there. Nothing more than a rumor.

 

[Kingbish01]

PER STLDOMER in the EG thread:

Tom Loy spoke with some sources about Golson and:

A) He didn't visit Riverside and was home in Myrtle Beach

B) Golson is expected to return to SB and take classes elsewhere and/or get a job and stay in shape

C) Golson is expected to work out over the summer w/ QB guru George Whitfield in Cali (Really really big deal)

 

[PANDFAN]

total piece of sh#t writing....rumor has been put to rest all ready and they took 3 people's tweets as news ...solid work

 

[Irishnuke]

Already talked about in EG thread.

 

[rtrn2glory]

thanks guys, didn't do enough investigating

 

[ThePiombino]

Tom Loy spoke with some sources about Golson and:

A) He didn't visit Riverside and was home in Myrtle Beach

B) Golson is expected to return to SB and take classes elsewhere and/or get a job and stay in shape

C) Golson is expected to work out over the summer w/ QB guru George Whitfield in Cali (Really really big deal)

Love the sound of this. Can't wait til 2014 lol.

Oh. BUMP!

 

[Whiskeyjack]

From Andy Staples' mail bag:

With Everett Golson's departure from Notre Dame, the transfer of Gunner Kiel takes on even more importance. It seems that over the years Notre Dame has had trouble maintaining depth at quarterback. Since the late 1990s, quarterbacks to transfer/leave/switch positions include: Zak Kustok, Arnaz Battle, Matt LoVecchio, Chris Olsen, Zach Frazer, Demetrius Jones, Dayne Crist and Kiel. While that's not exactly a Who's Who list of Heisman contenders, it has affected depth at a position where players are only a play (or infraction) away from taking the next snap. Is this happening at every major program, or does Notre Dame have a unique problem in retaining its quarterback talent?
-- Adam, Tampa

First of all, I cannot possibly express how much pleasure it gave me just to see names like Zak Kustok (one of my all-time favorite Northwestern players), Arnaz Battle and Matt LoVecchio flash in front of me for the first time in a decade. In fact, as a friendly tip to anyone attempting to get their Mailbag submissions published, a trip down memory lane involving long forgotten, somewhat obscure, but no less revered players from the late '90s or early 2000s is almost certain to catch my attention.

While I'm sure this problem may seem insular for Notre Dame-centric fans, the Irish's rate of quarterback attrition is not all that different from any other program that regularly signs four- or five-star signal callers. The days of blue-chip quarterbacks patiently waiting their turn for two or three years while developing behind a capable veteran are gone. If a guy isn't starting by his redshirt sophomore season, if not sooner -- and in particular, if he's stuck behind a guy who has a similar number of years of eligibility remaining -- he's probably heading elsewhere.

Case in point: Take a look at this list of Rivals.com's top-rated quarterbacks from the class of 2010 (guys who should be entering their third or fourth seasons). Besides the fact it's filled with spectacular busts, what's remarkable is that 14 of the top 20 prospects wound up transferring from their original schools. (The exceptions: Michigan's Devin Gardner, Missouri's James Franklin, Oklahoma's Blake Bell, Tennessee's Tyler Bray. Two others, UCF's Jeff Godfrey and Purdue's Sean Robinson, now play other positions.) It's probably an extreme example, but even the 2009 class, which included such standouts as USC's Matt Barkley, West Virginia's Geno Smith, Georgia's Aaron Murray and Clemson's Tajh Boyd, still saw nearly half of the top 20 transfer. This offseason alone we've seen two rising sophomores who could very well have started at their respective schools, Oklahoma State's West Lunt and Penn State's Steven Bench, bolt.

While quarterback transfers are hardly a new phenomenon -- think Troy Aikman (Oklahoma to UCLA) and Jeff George (Purdue to Illinois), among others -- the old model was a program like Florida State, where guys like Casey Weldon, Charlie Ward and Danny Kanell played only as juniors and seniors. Miami (Jim Kelly, Bernie Kosar, Vinny Testaverde, etc.) operated much the same way. Today, however, a more commonplace model is that of Texas, where Chris Simms, Vince Young, Colt McCoy and, in all likelihood, David Ash, will have all started for at least three full seasons. In the meantime, a slew of transfers -- Jevan Snead (Ole Miss), Garrett Gilbert (SMU), Connor Wood (Colorado) -- have gone on to start elsewhere.

Interestingly, Notre Dame is actually in relatively good shape compared to some; it can possibly replace Golson this season with Tommy Rees, a career 18-game starter who got bumped by the younger Golson but opted to stick around. Most major programs are lucky just to have a guy with garbage-time game experience on hand if its starter goes down.

 

[NDWorld247]

From Andy Staples' mail bag:

Case in point: Take a look at this list of Rivals.com's top-rated quarterbacks from the class of 2010 (guys who should be entering their third or fourth seasons). Besides the fact it's filled with spectacular busts, what's remarkable is that 14 of the top 20 prospects wound up transferring from their original schools. (The exceptions: Michigan's Devin Gardner, Missouri's James Franklin, Oklahoma's Blake Bell, Tennessee's Tyler Bray. Two others, UCF's Jeff Godfrey and Purdue's Sean Robinson, now play other positions.) It's probably an extreme example, but even the 2009 class, which included such standouts as USC's Matt Barkley, West Virginia's Geno Smith, Georgia's Aaron Murray and Clemson's Tajh Boyd, still saw nearly half of the top 20 transfer. This offseason alone we've seen two rising sophomores who could very well have started at their respective schools, Oklahoma State's West Lunt and Penn State's Steven Bench, bolt.

So, it's not BK's fault and the sky is not falling? I'm confused...

 

[Ironman8]

Even the almighty Nick Saban has been hit by QB transfers. 4 of the 8 QBs he has signed at Alabama have transferred.

 

[ACamp1900]

Golson was not on the campus of Riverside according to Riversides Head Coach.

That would have been a great move if he had gone there... if he's looking to play away... RCC is a local JuCo power as it is...

 

[irishroo]

Haven't read through the entire thread so not totally sure if this has been reported here, but I finally got the full story on Golson after hanging out this weekend with a buddy who happens to be one of our starting LBs:

Golson did, in fact, get caught cheating on an exam. This is not the first time that has happened. In this particular instance, Golson was not caught directly by his professor. Instead, another student saw him cheating and reported it to the professor. Golson then did not notify the coaches or academic advisors of the situation and essentially allowed them to find out from ResLife.

 

[irishog77]

Haven't read through the entire thread so not totally sure if this has been reported here, but I finally got the full story on Golson after hanging out this weekend with a buddy who happens to be one of our starting LBs:

Golson did, in fact, get caught cheating on an exam. This is not the first time that has happened. In this particular instance, Golson was not caught directly by his professor. Instead, another student saw him cheating and reported it to the professor. Golson then did not notify the coaches or academic advisors of the situation and essentially allowed them to find out from ResLife.

So, basically Golson knew a month ago.

 

[NDWorld247]

Haven't read through the entire thread so not totally sure if this has been reported here, but I finally got the full story on Golson after hanging out this weekend with a buddy who happens to be one of our starting LBs:

Golson did, in fact, get caught cheating on an exam. This is not the first time that has happened. In this particular instance, Golson was not caught directly by his professor. Instead, another student saw him cheating and reported it to the professor. Golson then did not notify the coaches or academic advisors of the situation and essentially allowed them to find out from ResLife.

Snitches get stitches

 

[pkt77242]

From Andy Staples' mail bag:

Not to be a jackass but I believe it is Stewart Mandel's mailbag.

 

[Grahambo]

Haven't read through the entire thread so not totally sure if this has been reported here, but I finally got the full story on Golson after hanging out this weekend with a buddy who happens to be one of our starting LBs:

Golson did, in fact, get caught cheating on an exam. This is not the first time that has happened. In this particular instance, Golson was not caught directly by his professor. Instead, another student saw him cheating and reported it to the professor. Golson then did not notify the coaches or academic advisors of the situation and essentially allowed them to find out from ResLife.

 

[JJRob]

Haven't read through the entire thread so not totally sure if this has been reported here, but I finally got the full story on Golson after hanging out this weekend with a buddy who happens to be one of our starting LBs:

Golson did, in fact, get caught cheating on an exam. This is not the first time that has happened. In this particular instance, Golson was not caught directly by his professor. Instead, another student saw him cheating and reported it to the professor. Golson then did not notify the coaches or academic advisors of the situation and essentially allowed them to find out from ResLife.

was it Tommy?

 

[koonja]

That takes balls to turn in the star QB on a ND team that has championship aspirations in 2013. I'm going to leave it at that rather than say what I really think.

 

[dublinirish]

no way a student would do the same at an SEC School. (report EG to his prof i mean)

 

[Me2SouthBend]

Haven't read through the entire thread so not totally sure if this has been reported here, but I finally got the full story on Golson after hanging out this weekend with a buddy who happens to be one of our starting LBs:

Golson did, in fact, get caught cheating on an exam. This is not the first time that has happened. In this particular instance, Golson was not caught directly by his professor. Instead, another student saw him cheating and reported it to the professor. Golson then did not notify the coaches or academic advisors of the situation and essentially allowed them to find out from ResLife.

It's obviously one of Carlo's people,

 

[PANDFAN]

i like ur style

 

[phork]

That takes balls to turn in the star QB on a ND team that has championship aspirations in 2013. I'm going to leave it at that rather than say what I really think.

Everyone should be treated equal. I imagine some of the student population is a little envious of the free ride + academic lowering issue some athletes get in return for football.

Saying that, however, doesn't mean what this other student did was right. I kind of live life with the mantra of if it doesn't affect me I really don't care. (This doesn't mean if I see some guy mugging some old lady that I wouldn't step in)
This rat will do well in corporate America where this is not only a badge but is highly encouraged while stepping over the corpses of colleagues on your way up.

 

[Kak7304]

Regardless of what the other student did, Golson still cheated and is suffering the consequences for his actions.

 

[gkautz10]

If that was actually what happened, did the kid who turned Golson in do the most ethical thing possible, probably. Did he do the right thing, probably. I agree this type of thing is looked upon as commendable in corporate America and politics. However I have been taught to mind my own business. I don't know if I would have been able to turn him in.

Ultimately I think the kid did the right thing. The integrity of a ND degree is where it is because of the academic standards. If everyone cheated their way through school, the ND degree means nothing and is worthless.

Having just graduated from college, nothing pissed me off more than watching a dumbass get good grades on tests because they cheated.

 

[ChiRish]

Certainly a frontrunner for gif of the year. Hilarious.

 

[ChiRish]

What's especially disconcerting to me is that Golson knew about it and didn't tell the coaches or academic advisers. Granted I'm sure a lot of us would do the same in his position, but it had to have left the staff blindsided.

 

[ThePiombino]

If that was actually what happened, did the kid who turned Golson in do the most ethical thing possible, probably. Did he do the right thing, probably. I agree this type of thing is looked upon as commendable in corporate America and politics. However I have been taught to mind my own business. I don't know if I would have been able to turn him in.

Ultimately I think the kid did the right thing. The integrity of a ND degree is where it is because of the academic standards. If everyone cheated their way through school, the ND degree means nothing and is worthless.

Having just graduated from college, nothing pissed me off more than watching a dumbass get good grades on tests because they cheated.

This.

/discussion

 

[dublinirish]

if EG was cheating he should have reported himself. Unlikely but ethical.

 

[gkautz10]

if EG was cheating he should have reported himself. Unlikely but ethical.

What??? This has never happened in the history of the world. Why would you cheat and then turn yourself in?? Let's be unethical and then turn around and be ethical lol. Doesn't make any sense. I am going to go rob a bank and then take all the money right down to the police station and turn myself in.....

 

[dublinirish]

What??? This has never happened in the history of the world. Why would you cheat and then turn yourself in?? Let's be unethical and then turn around and be ethical lol. Doesn't make any sense. I am going to go rob a bank and then take all the money right down to the police station and turn myself in.....

Its called remorse. And plenty of criminals have turned themselves in.