'14 TN OT Alex Bars (Notre Dame Signee)

[Who'saWildManNow]

Awesome. Just awesome.

 

[Irishnuke]

Hopefully that same battle will take place in practice next year.

 

[md_bennett]

For a drill that is designed for OL to lose.....staff has been putting in work so far with seriously good talent. Round out this class championship style.

 

[Luckylucci]

Awesome. Just awesome.

For me this exactly how I feel. No need to articulate further. Just awesome.

 

[RyCo1983]

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[NDWorld247]

Our OL in 2016:

LT - Steve Elmer (Sr.) - 6'6", 300lbs+
LG - Quenton Nelson (RS So.) - 6'5", 300lbs+
C - Hunter Bivin (RS Jr.) - 6'7", 300lbs+
RG - Alex Bars (RS So.) - 6'6", 300lbs+
RT - Ronnie Stanley (5th YR Sr.) - 6'6", 300lbs+ OR Mike McGlinchey (RS Jr.) - 6'9", 300lbs+

As I see it, Elmer, Nelson, Bivin, and Bars are the top 4 OL out of the 9 we have in the 2013 and 2014 classes.

EDIT: WOW!

 

[Ultimate Penn St. Hater]

Hopefully that same battle will take place in practice next year.

This

 

[EuropeanDomer]

Mark Harrel, Colin Mcgovern, John Montelus..

 

[NDWorld247]

Mark Harrel, Colin Mcgovern, John Montelus..

And Byrne, Mustipher...but the ones I listed are our best and it's not really that close, IMO.

 

[Buster Bluth]

And Byrne, Mustipher...but the ones I listed are our best and it's not really that close, IMO.

Well you have to be the best at your position, not just OL. And you have to form the best five, not the best individuals.

 

[Luckylucci]

The staff does like to play the best 5 lineman but as of right now there is no way Bars play guard. Montelus was brought in for a reason and highly thought of by the staff. And I love Nelson as well but these are Olinemen, experience means as much as talent so let's not forget that. Elmer is a better lineman than Hanratty, why isn't he playing RG?

 

[Crazy Balki]

The staff does like to play the best 5 lineman but as of right now there is no way Bars play guard. Montelus was brought in for a reason and highly thought of by the staff. And I love Nelson as well but these are Olinemen, experience means as much as talent so let's not forget that. Elmer is a better lineman than Hanratty, why isn't he playing RG?

Because at this point, Lombard is better than Elmer and Hanratty. That's why we'll see him at Guard. Elmer will most likely play LT behind Zack Martin.

 

[dwshade]

Elmer and Bars are tackles. Neither will move inside.

 

[Luckylucci]

I wasn't insinuating that Elmer should play guard. I was pointing out that just because a guy is good means they are going to put out there at a different position. Elmer is better than hanratty but Elmer is a T and Hanratty is a G. So, Elmer has to wait his turn. Just like Montelus is a G/C and Bars is a T, Bars may just have to wait his turn.

 

[Bogtrotter07]

We have no idea what the growth and development of these hosses is gonna be.

And we have no idea what the coaches plans are.

For all we know the coaches are going to platoon 'em!

 

[Golden Glory]

https://vine.co/v/bLdDJPEUFDZ

I couldn't get the embedding to work but the link is the one on one with Bars and Carter.



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[NDWorld247]

I wasn't insinuating that Elmer should play guard. I was pointing out that just because a guy is good means they are going to put out there at a different position. Elmer is better than hanratty but Elmer is a T and Hanratty is a G. So, Elmer has to wait his turn. Just like Montelus is a G/C and Bars is a T, Bars may just have to wait his turn.

Our OL depth right now is not what it will be in 2016. Elmer is needed at LT because if Martin were to get injured, we'd be in big trouble without Elmer backing him up. Not to mention the staff sees Elmer as the LT of the future. A 4-year starter if they can somehow keep a redshirt on him. If not, a 3-year starter.

In 2016, the OL depth will be at a point that the best five will play and I was simply throwing out an example of what that best five were as I see it to illustrate how RIDICULOUS our OL will be. I view those five to be the best. I am not going to put down the others to support my opinion on a depth chart four years from now, but I'm confident the staff will put the best five out there and it will be spectacular.

Back to Bars, was he named the top OL performer at today's camp? I saw an update on Rivals hinting at that but someone pissed off our most reliable and consistent recruiting poster so that info hasn't been brought to the site yet.

 

[ThePiombino]

Do you guys realize that between the OLine depth and the addition of Byrant and Hood that we are basically following the Alabama blueprint of success on the offensive side? God help our opponents of the defensive side over the next few years. **** yes!

 

[Buster Bluth]

Do you guys realize that between the OLine depth and the addition of Byrant and Hood that we are basically following the blueprint of success on the offensive side?

FIFY

Some things while we're on the subject:

1) Alabama didn't invent terrific smash-mouth football.

2) Brian Kelly will not switch his offense to a pro-style or i-formation style. Notre Dame will remain in the spread.

3) Great OL can be great OL in the spread or not, it doesn't matter at all. Alabama doesn't do what they do because they dominate the trenches, that's a separate issue. They win because they are perfectly balanced. There are a million ways to run an offense, that's what they do and they do it verrrrry well. Brian Kelly runs a spread, and an OL advantage is arguably even more potent because of the fewer guys in the box. There is no superior style of football. Pro, spread, multiple, etc...it's just who is better at what they do.

 

[Bogtrotter07]

FIFY

Some things while we're on the subject:

1) Alabama didn't invent terrific smash-mouth football.

2) Brian Kelly will not switch his offense to a pro-style or i-formation style. Notre Dame will remain in the spread.

3) Great OL can be great OL in the spread or not, it doesn't matter at all. Alabama doesn't do what they do because they dominate the trenches, that's a separate issue. They win because they are perfectly balanced. There are a million ways to run an offense, that's what they do and they do it verrrrry well. Brian Kelly runs a spread, and an OL advantage is arguably even more potent because of the fewer guys in the box. There is no superior style of football. Pro, spread, multiple, etc...it's just who is better at what they do.

Does everyone understand what Buster is saying here? Because this is and incredibly smart and insightful post. The only bad thing is if everybody understood this post it would cut half of the silly/fun conversations that are posted . . .

 

[JT_IRISH]

Does everyone understand what Buster is saying here? Because this is and incredibly smart and insightful post. The only bad thing is if everybody understood this post it would cut half of the silly/fun conversations that are posted . . .

II do and fully agree. Kelly is doing a fantastic job assembling great depth in the program. Our o-line is potentially dangerous. Defense has already overachieved. We are recruiting well but can we please lock down a QB situation. We should have had golson for 3-4 years with Kiel and Malik stepping in for a yr or 2 after yrs of development. Now we have tommy again and Malik as the future with Golson a huge question mark. We were so close to having great depth and guys pushing each other and now I feel back to square one.

 

[NDWorld247]

FIFY

Some things while we're on the subject:

1) Alabama didn't invent terrific smash-mouth football.

2) Brian Kelly will not switch his offense to a pro-style or i-formation style. Notre Dame will remain in the spread.

3) Great OL can be great OL in the spread or not, it doesn't matter at all. Alabama doesn't do what they do because they dominate the trenches, that's a separate issue. They win because they are perfectly balanced. There are a million ways to run an offense, that's what they do and they do it verrrrry well. Brian Kelly runs a spread, and an OL advantage is arguably even more potent because of the fewer guys in the box. There is no superior style of football. Pro, spread, multiple, etc...it's just who is better at what they do.

Alabama's success has less to do with X's and O's, or the system of offense or defense they run, and more to do with a.) talent and b.) how Saban and staff manifest that talent to succeed consistently (i.e. "The Process").

When I hear someone say we are following Alabama's blueprint, my mind goes to the two points above rather than think we are going to start running a pro-style offense. As you alluded to, Kelly's spread can have the same desired balance and potentially be even more productive.

As it pertains to talent and "The Process" and ND football...a.) ND is bringing in Alabama type talent, we just need to do it on a more consistent basis. b.) Brian Kelly is the only coach I have heard talk about "The Process" the same way Nick Saban does. I could be wrong on this, and please, someone, give me an example(s) of another coach that preaches "The Process" because I have been wondering lately, but Kelly is about the closest thing to Nick Saban as there is in college football today.

p.s. What does FIFY mean?

 

[Wild Bill]

Alabama's success has less to do with X's and O's, or the system of offense or defense they run, and more to do with a.) talent and b.) how Saban and staff manifest that talent to succeed consistently (i.e. "The Process").

When I hear someone say we are following Alabama's blueprint, my mind goes to the two points above rather than think we are going to start running a pro-style offense. As you alluded to, Kelly's spread can have the same desired balance and potentially be even more productive.

As it pertains to talent and "The Process" and ND football...a.) ND is bringing in Alabama type talent, we just need to do it on a more consistent basis. b.) Brian Kelly is the only coach I have heard talk about "The Process" the same way Nick Saban does. I could be wrong on this, and please, someone, give me an example(s) of another coach that preaches "The Process" because I have been wondering lately, but Kelly is about the closest thing to Nick Saban as there is in college football today.

p.s. What does FIFY mean?

Post is spot on. Chris Petersen seems like he has a process at Boise. Don't follow them close enough to know if he preaches it like BK.

Fify = fixed it for you

 

[EuropeanDomer]

https://vine.co/v/bLdDJPEUFDZ

I couldn't get the embedding to work but the link is the one on one with Bars and Carter.



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Carter looked very frustrated. Be dominated must be something strange for him. Anyway his explosiveness off the snap is insane.

 

[Bogtrotter07]

And Bars, keeping up with him is ridiculously insane!

 

[KyfightingIrish36]

Bars is really holding his own in the 5 star challenge, id say he will get a slight bump in the rankings.

 

[ACamp1900]

Carter looked very frustrated. Be dominated must be something strange for him. Anyway his explosiveness off the snap is insane.

He doesn't look happy... "Hey Big Guy, I no how you'll never have to face this frustration on game day.........."

 

[Bogtrotter07]

Someone said there was a bit of a difference with Barr and Carter today; any details?

 

[NDhoosier]

Carter blew him up today, Soloman Thomas beat Bars as well, but supposedly Bars bounced back and held Carter again...

 

[GoldenIsThyFame]

All Challenge Team

Rivals.com Football Recruiting - Five-Star Challenge: All-Challenge team

OL Alex Bars, Nashville (Tenn.) Montgomery Bell Academy: Bars is a huge kid with a great frame, and he looks like a pure right tackle. He has a nasty demeanor and is a terrific competitor. He had one of the best moments of the camp when he went against five-star Lorenzo Carter three straight times. On the first two reps, which Bars won, Carter ripped his jersey each time until it was practically torn off. Bars simply took it off, took the next rep shirtless and still bested one of the most athletic ends at the event. Bars struggled on Sunday, especially when he lost a few reps badly, but he has plenty of upside and the attitude you want in an offensive lineman.