MIT Shooting

[irishff1014]

The Uncle seems very angry in his press conference.

I just realized that the Uncle lives in MD.

 

[Zwidmanio]

Good point.

And I bet the family is bracing for some negative crap....Unfortuntely, people take it out on family members (I assume they didn't have anything to do with it, but we'll see)

I completely agree. It's a shame how some take the actions of a few and attribute them to a larger group.

 

[irishpat183]

I don't understand the reluctance to believe that individuals of the Islamic religion would attack Americans in a terrorist act...its not like it hasn't happened before.

It's a poltical play.

The left was PRAYING it was a "right winger"...so they'll do anyting to backtrack now. Or figure out a way to label this domestic

They wanted nothing more than to say "I told you so"!!!!


Just check out clips of Chris Matthews and MSNBC this week...just as bad as those that pointed out the kids at the race that "looked" like terrorists.

 

[Irish Houstonian]

I don't think that's going to happen.

Besides, they're cheechy's, not russians.

Yup. Russia's already fighting them, and would probably welcome our assistance. (Assuming these guys are part of a larger Chechen terror cell, which isn't clear).

 

[Rhode Irish]

And how do you know this, Mr Anti-speculation?

Remember the guys that planned 9/11? There were here for years learning to be pilots..acting like "normal americans".

This kid came here as a nine year old to be a sleeper cell?

 

[irishpat183]

I feel so bad for the MIT cop and his family.....

 

[irishpat183]

This kid came here as a nine year old to be a sleeper cell?

They train them much younger than that over there. The radicals grow up hating the US

 

[irishpat183]

So does anyone have anyother news on the other people that have been arrested/detained?????

 

[irishff1014]

This kid came here as a nine year old to be a sleeper cell?

Still doesn't make him american.

 

[PANDFAN]

They train them much younger than that over there. The radicals grow up hating the US

hell yeah they are...there are pics of kids that appear to be 5-6 w/ guns at the al-queda training places.....they absolutely hate us!!! the worst part is that they use religion to make it like they are doing "god's work"

 

[Rhode Irish]

I don't understand the reluctance to believe that individuals of the Islamic religion would attack Americans in a terrorist act...its not like it hasn't happened before.

There is no reluctance on my part to believe anything. I don't have a preference for the bombers motives, unlike a lot of people here. I'm just saying, these guys don't fit the profile of what we think of as traditional islamic terrorists. I think it is pretty clear they are Muslims and they are terrorists. It just seems like they're lone wolves and not connected to a network based on the way they've operated.

 

[AvesEvo]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>Suspects in <a href="https://twitter.com/search/%23Boston">#Boston</a> bombings have never been to Chechnya according to their uncle. <a href="https://twitter.com/search/%23Watertown">#Watertown</a></p>— AJELive (@AJELive) <a href="https://twitter.com/AJELive/status/325273709038419968">April 19, 2013</a></blockquote>
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[IrishLion]

This kid came here as a nine year old to be a sleeper cell?

It's a possibility. I'm in a history of terrorism class at the moment, and they raise children to hate all Americans from birth.

 

[irishpat183]

There is no reluctance on my part to believe anything. I don't have a preference for the bombers motives, unlike a lot of people here. I'm just saying, these guys don't fit the profile of what we think of as traditional islamic terrorists. I think it is pretty clear they are Muslims and they are terrorists. It just seems like they're lone wolves and not connected to a network based on the way they've operated.

But you have to think....Let's say they came over here with the intent to be productive citizens and get educated...etc.

With that being said....what would make them suddenly turn and do this, if it wasn't some radical thing backing them?

So they either came here to do harm....or the radical islam finally got to them (probably a group?).

Either way, they're radical islamic terrorists. And I doubt they worked alone.

 

[NoJusticeNoPeace]

Russia and Chechnya haven't really been fighting over the last few years. It's a pro-Russian government and the major separatist leaders were killed. It's still a volatile region but it isn't like Afghanistan in 2001.

 

[AvesEvo]

It's a possibility. I'm in a history of terrorism class at the moment, and they raise children to hate all Americans from birth.

Really? Because it sounds like the younger brother had a lot of American friends.

 

[NoJusticeNoPeace]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>Suspects in <a href="https://twitter.com/search/%23Boston">#Boston</a> bombings have never been to Chechnya according to their uncle. <a href="https://twitter.com/search/%23Watertown">#Watertown</a></p>— AJELive (@AJELive) <a href="https://twitter.com/AJELive/status/325273709038419968">April 19, 2013</a></blockquote>
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Now this is strange.

 

[dublinirish]

Russia and Chechnya haven't really been fighting over the last few years. It's a pro-Russian government and the major separatist leaders were killed. It's still a volatile region but it isn't like Afghanistan in 2001.

its a puppet government installed by Moscow

 

[irishpat183]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>Suspects in <a href="https://twitter.com/search/%23Boston">#Boston</a> bombings have never been to Chechnya according to their uncle. <a href="https://twitter.com/search/%23Watertown">#Watertown</a></p>— AJELive (@AJELive) <a href="https://twitter.com/AJELive/status/325273709038419968">April 19, 2013</a></blockquote>
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The same uncle that hasn't seen or talked to them in years?

And where did they immigrat from?

 

[IrishLion]

Really? Because it sounds like the younger brother had a lot of American friends.

I'm not saying this is specifically the case with this guy, I was saying they could send a child over here as a 9-year-old with a hatred already developed.

EDIT: and I'm also not saying this is all Muslims obviously. I was speaking strictly on children raised amongst terrorist cells. They are raised from birth to hate all Americans for no reason other than "Jihad." Is that suspect number 2? We don't know. Is it possible? Yes. Is it possible that this was a strictly random act from two fvcked up people? Yes.

 

[FLDomer]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>Suspects in <a href="https://twitter.com/search/%23Boston">#Boston</a> bombings have never been to Chechnya according to their uncle. <a href="https://twitter.com/search/%23Watertown">#Watertown</a></p>— AJELive (@AJELive) <a href="https://twitter.com/AJELive/status/325273709038419968">April 19, 2013</a></blockquote>
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I thought I read somewhere that the were from a Russian region NEAR Chechnya...

 

[irishpat183]

Really? Because it sounds like the younger brother had a lot of American friends.

WHere was this confirmed? From what I heard, they were loners

 

[Rhode Irish]

It's a possibility. I'm in a history of terrorism class at the moment, and they raise children to hate all Americans from birth.

Yeah, maybe ten year olds that live in that part of the world do hate Americans, but the idea that a kid came here as a nine year with a mission that he sat on for ten years then activated it about as absurd an idea as I've ever heard. I think pretty clearly something happened to these guys to turn them at some point, and it probably happened somewhat recently (last year or two). The idea that a nine year old came here with this in mind a decade later shows virtually no understanding of human nature and the human condition.

 

[RuntheBall]

WHere was this confirmed? From what I heard, they were loners

CNN had a quote from a "friend" who went to highschool with the younger one. The kid said he "partied" and hungout with the younger brother suspect.

 

[irishpat183]

Yeah, maybe ten year olds that live in that part of the world do hate Americans, but the idea that a kid came here as a nine year with a mission that he sat on for ten years then activated it about as absurd an idea as I've ever heard. I think pretty clearly something happened to these guys to turn them at some point, and it probably happened somewhat recently (last year or two). The idea that a nine year old came here with this in mind a decade later shows virtually no understanding of human nature and the human condition.

The fact that, this day and age, that you just dismiss this as rubbish shows your naivety.

You obviously are dismissing how evil humans can be.

 

[Redbar]

Yeah, maybe ten year olds that live in that part of the world do hate Americans, but the idea that a kid came here as a nine year with a mission that he sat on for ten years then activated it about as absurd an idea as I've ever heard. I think pretty clearly something happened to these guys to turn them at some point, and it probably happened somewhat recently (last year or two). The idea that a nine year old came here with this in mind a decade later shows virtually no understanding of human nature and the human condition.

Reminds me of the panic over the possibility of a manchurian candidate after the Korean War, but hey, fear is a hell of a drug.

 

[Zwidmanio]

CNN had a quote from a "friend" who went to highschool with the younger one. The kid said he "partied" and hungout with the younger brother suspect.

I've seen/heard at least two or three interviews with friends or associates of the younger brother and nobody has indicated that there were signs that he was maladjusted. He was a wrestler, he earned a scholarship to go to college, etc. There have been some indications that the older brother might have been a loner though.

Of course, this is all based off of initial reports so, take it for what it's worth.

 

[irishpat183]

CNN had a quote from a "friend" who went to highschool with the younger one. The kid said he "partied" and hungout with the younger brother suspect.

Ahhhh....So I guess it was the older one.

 

[irishpat183]

Reminds me of the panic over the possibility of a manchurian candidate after the Korean War, but hey, fear is a hell of a drug.

Yep. Like telling everyone it's a "right wing extremist"....

 

[BleedBlueGold]

CNN reporting that older brother was a US citizen and younger brother has green card.