Video of Mike Rice Abusing Players

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IrishLax said:
Tim Pernetti out as Rutgers Scarlet Knights athletic director, source says - ESPN New York

Seems kinda ridiculous to me. All he did wrong was give a guy a second chance... so the message is to never show compassion and only focus on watching your own back. Got it.
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I may be wrong but I think one of the issues is that Pernetti didn't show the president the video clips at the time of the initial suspension (at least that is what the president says). It makes it look as if he was trying to cover up the entirety of the behavior even if he really wasn't.
 
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GoldenIsThyFame said:
I may be wrong but I think one of the issues is that Pernetti didn't show the president the video clips at the time of the initial suspension (at least that is what the president says). It makes it look as if he was trying to cover up the entirety of the behavior even if he really wasn't.
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This was my angle in Post #46. Although I used the words "cover up", it was more like a misrepresentation of the entire truth on behalf of the athletic department.

I just put myself in the shoes of the parents of these kids and know how I would have reacted if I saw my child treated this way. As a Marine, I know and have experienced first hand how important discipline is. Ask my children, I'm a huge proponent of the priciple. But there is a fine line between discipline and disrespect/mistreatment. That line was crossed here...period.
 
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IrishLax said:
Tim Pernetti out as Rutgers Scarlet Knights athletic director, source says - ESPN New York

Seems kinda ridiculous to me. All he did wrong was give a guy a second chance... so the message is to never show compassion and only focus on watching your own back. Got it.
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Respectfully disagree. His job is to show compassion and focus on watching his players' backs as much as it is to do so for his coach or himself. He failed at that.

As a teacher, I have always viewed my first job as the Hippocratic oath...i.e., "first, do no harm." Putting your students/players in danger is the quickest way to get fired. This coach could have easily given kids a concussion, broken a nose, or any number of other things with the shots he was firing at the kids' heads.

That said, I'm not sure I agree with forcing the AD to resign. I do think he made a bad decision. It's just a pretty terrible situation.
 
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IrishJayhawk said:
Respectfully disagree. His job is to show compassion and focus on watching his players' backs as much as it is to do so for his coach or himself. He failed at that.

As a teacher, I have always viewed my first job as the Hippocratic oath...i.e., "first, do no harm." Putting your students/players in danger is the quickest way to get fired. This coach could have easily given kids a concussion, broken a nose, or any number of other things with the shots he was firing at the kids' heads.

That said, I'm not sure I agree with forcing the AD to resign. I do think he made a bad decision. It's just a pretty terrible situation.
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Right, I think he made the "wrong" choice not firing Rice... but I don't think it was such an egregiously wrong decision that he has to go down with him. He made a judgement call... he either had to try to fire him with cause which would be a huge sh*tstorm and cost the athletic department a lot... or he could suspend him, fine him heavily, and employ a "no tolerance" policy so if the slightest thing happened again he would be fired.

Again, I think it's sensationalized because we're seeing all of his "worst" back-to-back-to-back... in reality he was probably crossing the line... what? Once a week? And kids have come out and said after the fact that they think the way it is all being portrayed is misleading.

Tough spot to be in for the AD. I can see both sides of the decision he made... and whether or not he 'had to go'. I guess I just empathize with him because now he's jobless and his career is effectively over because some other guy decided to be a total douche and he was forced to try to handle a really difficult situation that he didn't create.
 
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GoldenIsThyFame said:
Letter of Resignation from Tim Pernetti

Says that he wanted to fire Rice initially but RU's cumbersome process kept him from doing it.
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If this is accurate, it just furthers my point. If he said "fire him" and a bunch of lawyers, HR, etc. got in the way and said "no, let's just suspend"... then he's a sacrificial lamb.

I also heard that a bunch of members of the BoT signed off on the suspension. So why is he the fall guy?
 
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If this is accurate, it just furthers my point. If he said "fire him" and a bunch of lawyers, HR, etc. got in the way and said "no, let's just suspend"... then he's a sacrificial lamb.

I also heard that a bunch of members of the BoT signed off on the suspension. So why is he the fall guy?
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There's always more to these stories than we know. And the schools and administrators are often legally bound to silence.

And, yes, we saw a clipped together montage. But I feel like any other coach would have taken a step back after one incident of throwing a ball at a player. That's a serious, "I need to get myself under control" moment. The fact that there were so many incidents, even if they had been clipped together, indicates to me that (a) there were many others that we didn't see, (b) he was out of control, and (c) didn't care to or couldn't change his behavior.
 
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What a piece of **** (P.S. I hate Deadspin with a passion, but an SI guy I follow RT this).

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>Mike Rice is coaching a 12-year-old girls AAU basketball team. Seriously: <a href="http://t.co/UwLchv81kJ" title="http://deadspin.com/is-mike-rice-really-coaching-12-year-old-girls-now-472882380">deadspin.com/is-mike-rice-r…</a></p>— Richard Deitsch (@richarddeitsch) <a href="https://twitter.com/richarddeitsch/status/323665424782876672">April 15, 2013</a></blockquote>
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If the parents and players want him to be their coach I really don't care.
 
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Rice is a scumbag, let me be clear..

The thing that bothers me is the fact that we can put bob knight in an Applebee's commercial with digger and have a good laugh about this kind of issue at the very same time.

Again I'm not defending rice or comparing his actions to knights in terms of harshness or severity but.. Just my 2 cents
 
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