'11 CA RB Amir Carlisle (Notre Dame Football Player)

[ACamp1900]

I fondly remember a she who once said, "It's not how long you make it, it's how you make it long!"

She told me the same thing.... Wait...

Hey! What's going on here!

 

[Who'saWildManNow]

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This is the first interview I've seen with Amir and I've come away extremely impressed. He is well spoken with a fantastic approach to everything.

 

[GBdomer]

Will get the first carry against Temple.

 

[pkt77242]

Will get the first carry against Temple.

I don't doubt that. I just wonder if he can stay healthy for a full season.

 

[GBdomer]

I don't doubt that. I just wonder if he can stay healthy for a full season.

We will see I have been preaching about this guy for two years, overall in terms of tools I think he has the best on the team. He just has a different gear.

 

[Irish8248]

.... That time I got ripped for saying he would be the feature back and Bryant is likely to RS

 

[arrowryan]

.... That time I got ripped for saying he would be the feature back and Bryant is likely to RS

Bryant is not red shirting

 

[GBdomer]

.... That time I got ripped for saying he would be the feature back and Bryant is likely to RS

Gregory is not redshirting but yes Amir will be the feature back.

 

[Irish8248]

GA3 had how many attempts last year as a "3Rd" back? Bryant will not be rushed into the lineup when there's no need

 

[arrowryan]

GA3 had how many attempts last year as a "3Rd" back? Bryant will not be rushed into the lineup when there's no need

I will give you all of my vbucks if he red shirts. I guarantee he doesn't if he is healthy

 

[GBdomer]

I will give you all of my vbucks if he red shirts. I guarantee he doesn't if he is healthy

Ha I don't want V Bucks I dont know what to do with them, but how about a 12 pack?

 

[arrowryan]

Ha I don't want V Bucks I dont know what to do with them, but how about a 12 pack?

Lets share a 12 pack in South Bend

 

[Irish8248]

Just don't see it... He won't be needed on ST like Atkinson was, we have depth at RB, and RB requires more than run right/Run left

 

[GBdomer]

Lets share a 12 pack in South Bend

Well if we are sharing lets get a 30. I'll be in for the Michigan State game.

 

[arrowryan]

Just don't see it... He won't be needed on ST like Atkinson was, we have depth at RB, and RB requires more than run right/Run left

Atkinson/Carlisle/Bryant will be your 3 deep

 

[Irishnuke]

I will give you all of my vbucks if he red shirts. I guarantee he doesn't if he is healthy

If he redshirts, I'll give you all of my vbucks and then you can give them to the other guy. He's not redshirting.

 

[Irish8248]

Exactly, if he's 3, then I fail to see the value in getting 4 touches A game... I do see value in having 4 years of getting 12+ per game

 

[Irishnuke]

Exactly, if he's 3, then I fail to see the value in getting 4 touches A game... I do see value in having 4 years of getting 12+ per game

I see value in putting the best players on the field, not the bench.

 

[arrowryan]

Exactly, if he's 3, then I fail to see the value in getting 4 touches A game... I do see value in having 4 years of getting 12+ per game

That's like saying why waste a year of Jaylon Smith's eligabilty when he might only play on passing downs? Because you want the best athletes on the field

 

[Irish8248]

I see value in putting the best players on the field, not the bench.

There's more value in giving the top 2 an extra Two attempts or allowing Cam/Will the Four plays so Bryant can save a year.... Unless hE jumps one of the starters or there's an injury

 

[Irish8248]

Jaylon has more opportunity on ST and can see more than 4 passing plays

 

[STLDomer]

Exactly, if he's 3, then I fail to see the value in getting 4 touches A game... I do see value in having 4 years of getting 12+ per game

If Bryant is has good as he is supposed to be he isn't sticking around for 5 years anyways...

 

[IrishLion]

If Bryant continues to improve in pass pro, he's going to play a lot of football by the end of the season.

He looked good blocking Jaylon and other studs in the Army game, but we'll see how he does blocking veteran linebackers when he arrives in the summer. If he can do it, BK will get him on the field.

 

[Irish8248]

If Bryant is has good as he is supposed to be he isn't sticking around for 5 years anyways...

Maybe so but were still talking about what amounts to 4 attempts this year if last season is any indicator of what a system with 2 feature backs means for a 3rd guy.... But back to Amir

 

[Luckylucci]

Something to keep in mind and I bring this up quite frequently, it's important to keep talent like Bryant engaged in the process. Sometimes I think that may mean giving him 3-4 reps/game. Or you run the risk of losing some of these kids. I also agree with STL, we just saw Cierre walk after 4. If Bryant is that good what makes u think he'd stay for 4?

 

[Irish8248]

You don't RS based on whose staying 3-4 years... You can't predict the future, maybe his sr year he suffers an injury or has an ok year of production, where he doesn't necessarily scream 1st or 2nd day selection, and it's better he comes back for a year... If he was a sr you just crushed any chance of making his stock stronger because you decided it was ok to give him 4 attempts a game as a freshman...

 

[Irishnuke]

Maybe so but were still talking about what amounts to 4 attempts this year if last season is any indicator of what a system with 2 feature backs means for a 3rd guy.... But back to Amir

You don't RS based on whose staying 3-4 years... You can't predict the future, maybe his sr year he suffers an injury or has an ok year of production, where he doesn't necessarily scream 1st or 2nd day selection, and it's better he comes back for a year... If he was a sr you just crushed any chance of making his stock stronger because you decided it was ok to give him 4 attempts a game as a freshman...

You can't base how many carries Bryant will get based off of how many GA3 got last year. GA was backing up two proven starting RBs. Bryant will be backing up no proven RBs. There is a reason he's a 5 star RB. If he deserves to get the carries, he'll get the carries. Simple as that.

 

[Irish8248]

Sigh, these are all the same arguments hashed out before... I get he's a 5 star, freak, and incredibly gifted, but unless he jumps one of the two, it's not happening. Not enough offensive plays to get everyone the ball. It was a consensus that Amir is the feature back, BK said GA 3 needed to get more touches and is looking like a complete back; where do you exactly see Bryant getting any kind of significant touches that are worth burning a year? You think he's going to be a Keith Marshall and get 100+ as a freshman? Only way that happens is if he jumps someone on the depth chart. This isn't a hard concept, it's just not enough to feed 3 backs, someone has to be the odd man out, so who is it?

Edit/add: in 2012 we had a 3 back system with GA getting 50 touches... In 2009 we had a 3 back system with Cierre/Armando/Hughes, with Hughes touching about 5 times a game... Really don't think I'm far-fetched in saying Bryant RS if he's getting 4-5 touches a game

 

[GBdomer]

Jaylon redshirts HAHAHAHAHAHAH, you don't bring in top 3 players to red shirt them

 

[Fbolt]

Jaylon redshirts HAHAHAHAHAHAH, you don't bring in top 3 players to red shirt them

Nope, you play them. However, 5 stars do not always pan out as some are average or total busts. Don't think that will happen here but one never knows. Looking forward to the best players playing.