'13 CA P Andrew Antognoli (Notre Dame Preferred Walk-On Verbal)

[Whiskeyjack]

Andrew Antognoli

Chris Sailer labels him a "5 Punter"

That's the same analyst that's quoted on Antognoli's Scout profile. Who is he?

 

[Ironman8]

That's the same analyst that's quoted on Antognoli's Scout profile. Who is he?

A kicking guru. Basically the same as Rubio for long snappers. Holds the camps and evaluates the top kicking specialists across the country.

 

[IndyIrishFan1]

I hope this a new trend. Most specialists are too inconsistent to justify spending a scholarship on outta high school. Taking promising candidates as preferred walk-ons and putting them on the roster only if they earn it makes a lot more sense.

Offering a guy like Brindza makes sense: nationally ranked combo (K/P) prospect with a huge leg. But if you can't get a guy like that, save the scholarship for a lineman.

Makes me wonder if we ought to be carrying a LS on scholarship. Why not just train an OL to do it?

I've been saying this for years. If you are a 3/4 star OL, why wouldn't you learn how to long snap too and save a roster spot for a team? I think that would be a nice feather in your cap if you're a decent OL coming out of high school.

 

[Ironman8]

Andrew punted at the Semper Fi All American Game.

 

[GreenSox04]

kid gets to be apart of an elite program, still gets a great education and isn't going all the way across the country.

sounds like a win win win.

 

[Buster Bluth]

I've been saying this for years. If you are a 3/4 star OL, why wouldn't you learn how to long snap too and save a roster spot for a team? I think that would be a nice feather in your cap if you're a decent OL coming out of high school.

It's not hard to be decent at it, but it's really hard to be very very very good at it. It's like a bass guitar haha

 

[woolybug25]

I like having him, but I don't think we should be using a scholarship on a punter until Brindza graduates.

The kid was going to have to pay his way to Harvard, but instead gets to get 1-2 years paid for at Notre Dame. I think that is an easy deal to make with this kid.

Welcome to ND.

 

[AdmiralBackhand]

Such great news.

 

[Grahambo]

Glad to have him aboard. Hope EV is watching. Lol

 

[ohara831]

Glad to have him Irish. The coaching staff knows what we need. Preferred walk on is just fine with me.

 

[Me2SouthBend]

Andrew Antognoli

Chris Sailer labels him a "5 Punter"

Love pulling the 5 star athletes from Cali.

 

[EddytoNow]

When Andrew gets on campus he can prove himself worthy of a scholarship. If one opens up through transfer or injury then he deserves a shot at that scholarship. Let's not undervalue our kickers. Without Brindza we are not 12-1 this year. Our depth at the kicking position is almost non-existent.

 

[koonja]

Looks athletic. Maybe we can get a little tricky in our punting game with an athlete like him.

 

[arrowryan]

He's 6'3"!?

Redzone threat!!!

 

[NoJusticeNoPeace]

Harvard doesn't give football scholarships, right?

Harvard and other Ivy League schools have you pay 10% of your parent's income for football players, so if his parents make a combined $100K he would only pay 10K a year at Harvard.

 

[irishog77]

Harvard and other Ivy League schools have you pay 10% of your parent's income for football players, so if his parents make a combined $100K he would only pay 10K a year at Harvard.

Interesting. Never heard that before. I like how they do this. And I'm assuming only up to a certain point on the income and/or the normal tuition cost.

 

[irishog77]

I hope this a new trend. Most specialists are too inconsistent to justify spending a scholarship on outta high school. Taking promising candidates as preferred walk-ons and putting them on the roster only if they earn it makes a lot more sense.

Offering a guy like Brindza makes sense: nationally ranked combo (K/P) prospect with a huge leg. But if you can't get a guy like that, save the scholarship for a lineman.

Makes me wonder if we ought to be carrying a LS on scholarship. Why not just train an OL to do it?

Certainly makes you wonder why TWO were on schollie this year!

 

[phork]

Can he field punts and run them back as well?

 

[rtrn2glory]

Harvard and other Ivy League schools have you pay 10% of your parent's income for football players, so if his parents make a combined $100K he would only pay 10K a year at Harvard.

This is the first time i've heard that?

just curious...what/who's your source?

 

[woolybug25]

Harvard and other Ivy League schools have you pay 10% of your parent's income for football players, so if his parents make a combined $100K he would only pay 10K a year at Harvard.

That's not entirely true. First of all, the aid is setup just like financial aid, and anybody that has done that knows it is not like accepting a scholarship. Furthermore, it isn't just a flat 10%

At most Ivy League institutions, families earning less than about $65,000 annually are now asked to make no contribution to their children’s education. Families making $65,000 to $180,000 might be expected to pay 10 percent to 18 percent of their annual income on a sliding scale. Ten years ago, such families would have been expected to pay almost twice as much, and their child would probably have accumulated a debt of about $25,000 after four years.

Also, if your family makes over $200K a year (a great deal of our recruiting class's parents do), this type of aid is unavailable.

But yes... this change has helped the Ivy league tremendously in recent years.

 

[Me2SouthBend]

For the love of God, get this kid listed on the front page!

 

[irishff1014]

We need good special teams. I really like this. Nice surprise.

 

[Kak7304]

I've been saying this for years. If you are a 3/4 star OL, why wouldn't you learn how to long snap too and save a roster spot for a team? I think that would be a nice feather in your cap if you're a decent OL coming out of high school.

There's a reason NFL teams use one of their valuable 53 roster spots on a longsnapper.

 

[ThePiombino]

How many schools can claim to have a kid decommit from and Ivy League school to walk-on no less!!!

Welcome aboard, Andrew!

 

[Green Mountains]

This is the kind of kid that makes me worry about our graduation rate!

Welcome aboard Andrew.

 

[NoJusticeNoPeace]

This is the first time i've heard that?

just curious...what/who's your source?

I had a friend who got a Harvard offer and this is what they told him apparently.

 

[dad4aa]

Long question but I need clarification. If I am smart enough to get a full ride academic scholarship to Notre Dame and then decide during open tryouts to walk-on and make it, how is my scholarship viewed by the NCAA?

Depending on the answer, this would be my follow up question. If this kid is smart enough to be accepted at Harvard, might this not be the case here?

Not trying to pull an "SEC" move and cheat, just curious how this works.

 

[Emcee77]

Long question but I need clarification. If I am smart enough to get a full ride academic scholarship to Notre Dame and then decide during open tryouts to walk-on and make it, how is my scholarship viewed by the NCAA?

Depending on the answer, this would be my follow up question. If this kid is smart enough to be accepted at Harvard, might this not be the case here?

Not trying to pull an "SEC" move and cheat, just curious how this works.

Notre Dame doesn't give academic scholarships, as far as I know, just need-based and athletic.

In any case, even if it did, as soon as you took the field you would count toward the 85 limit, regardless of the fact that your scholarship is non-athletic. In other words, ND would only have 84 athletic scholarships to give out as long as you played for ND.

We were discussing this in another thread and NOLA looked up the rule.

 

[Buster Bluth]

If this kid is smart enough to be accepted at Harvard, might this not be the case here?

You don't have to be super smart to play sports at Harvard. If you get a 28 ACT score they tend to look at you, that and then weighed with your class rank and other factors.

For all I know, he got a 36 and is the next Isaac Newton, but Harvard/Yale guys normally are 29-33 ACT from my experience and that's not going to get you a scholarship at Notre Dame (right?). I say that as a guy whose best friend was recruited to play at Yale and whose 8th grade science teacher played at Harvard, so just remembering tidbits from back in the day.

I think everyone must be on a football scholarship (or the bigger sport, if they played football and another...which is always football). Remember when that Rhodes Scholar from Florida State played? He would certainly be an full-ride academic guy but it doesn't matter.

 

[Emcee77]

You don't have to be super smart to play sports at Harvard. If you get a 28 ACT score they tend to look at you, that and then weighed with your class rank and other factors.

For all I know, he got a 36 and is the next Isaac Newton, but Harvard/Yale guys normally are 29-33 ACT from my experience and that's not going to get you a scholarship at Notre Dame (right?).

I think everyone must be on a football scholarship (or the bigger sport, if they played football and another...which is always football). Remember when that Rhodes Scholar from Florida State played? He would certainly be an full-ride academic guy but it doesn't matter.

Actually, Myron Rolle might be the only exception. If you win an academic scholarship based on your collegiate, not high school academic performance, completely independent of the needs of the football team and available in the same amount to a non-football player, you can play football without counting toward the 85 limit. If any such scholarships are available to upperclass FSU students, and Myron Rolle happened to win one, then FSU could have taken 86 kids that year or years. Strange exception, huh? Doubt it has ever been applied.