Who is Likely Next (2013)

[Ironman8]

I was thinking the same thing ... that's the one situation where I feel like every course of action you could take is problematic, unless the staff knows of extra schollies that will become available due to transfer/medical issues (if they do, we could just take Fitts, one of Isaac/Prevot/Hollins, and Vanderdoes ... if our scholarship situation stays the way it is I don't see how we can take 3 more 2013 guys though).

It would be a good problem to have, and we certainly threw ourselves in the mix for Fitts and Hollins, but I just don't think it was enough to pull them from UCLA (especially with their parents not visiting). Hopefully in homes this week can change that.

In my opinion we have a 50/50 shot with EV, with UCLA as the competition. It will probably come down to a NSD pick with everyone in the dark.

Isaac is a wild card, and we will have to wait and see if he visits.

 

[koonja]

Prevot is visiting February 3rd? Throughout the weekend? The lone visitor, correct?

 

[NOLAIrish]

USC written article if anyone has ESPNinsider:

ESPN 150 DE enjoys Notre Dame trip - USC Trojans Blog - ESPN

Not much new there. Does point out that he has the option to EE at UCLA and Washington since they both operate on a quarter-based schedule rather than semesters. I can't imagine that's going to have much of an effect on his decision, though.

 

[Ironman8]

Prevot is visiting February 3rd? Throughout the weekend? The lone visitor, correct?

Would arrive on Friday, Feb. 1st. There is smoke Isaac may visit as well, but as of now nothing is set.

 

[koonja]

Would arrive on Friday, Feb. 1st. There is smoke Isaac may visit as well, but as of now nothing is set.

Thanks. Perhaps I'm looking too deep, but 'would arrive'? Isn't it set in stone that he's visiting or is there a chance he cancels after his visit to AM?

 

[Ironman8]

Thanks. Perhaps I'm looking too deep, but 'would arrive'? Isn't it set in stone that he's visiting or is there a chance he cancels after his visit to AM?

I guess there is always that chance, but the further away from the weekend it gets, the less likely that becomes.

I keep going back to the sources we have said multiple times that Prevot would not end up at USC and that he is not an 'A&M type kid'. Hope it is true.

 

[rtrn2glory]

so it's a done deal that prevot is visiting this weekend??

 

[IrishLax]

so it's a done deal that prevot is visiting this weekend??

For now the visit is on and it appears the only thing that could change that would be the commitment of another prospect that would take his spot.

 

[GoldenIsThyFame]

Wonder if BK puts the heat on Hollins during the in home this week.

 

[IrishLax]

Wonder if BK puts the heat on Hollins during the in home this week.

No reason not to. Either he commits or he doesn't. Either way we end up in a better situation with the clarity.

 

[Whiskeyjack]

No reason not to. Either he commits or he doesn't. Either way we end up in a better situation with the clarity.

Maybe the staff prefers Prevot? Conventional wisdom has long been Hollins was ours if we'd only push for him. If true, the fact that he hasn't committed yet indicates that he may be a contingency plan.

 

[BleedBlueGold]

Does the staff see Prevot at ILB/OLB also? I read a Hollins quote saying the staff likes him inside and outside. If he can play both and Prevot is more of a CAT prospect, then it's a no-brainer that Hollins should be allowed to commit if he chooses, closing the door on Prevot. I'm not conviced he's a backup plan. I just think of them as 1a and 1b. My opinion.

 

[Whiskeyjack]

Does the staff see Prevot at ILB/OLB also? I read a Hollins quote saying the staff likes him inside and outside. If he can play both and Prevot is more of a CAT prospect, then it's a no-brainer that Hollins should be allowed to commit if he chooses. IMO

True. And I've always gotten the impression that the staff prefers Hollins over Prevot. But the rumors that he's been a simple push away from committing to us for quite some time give me pause.

 

[Emcee77]

Maybe the staff prefers Prevot? Conventional wisdom has long been Hollins was ours if we'd only push for him. If true, the fact that he hasn't committed yet indicates that he's a contingency plan.

That wisdom may have been incorrect though. Sapp learned last week that Hollins was heavily favoring UCLA. If we get him now it will only be because he was, in his own words, "blown away" by the visit this weekend.

After his visit he told 247 that he had to go home and confer with his parents -- a good thing for us, as his dad is thought to be favoring ND. So first we have to see if he is still as blown away by ND when BK sits down with him as he was when he left campus. If so, then I think he'll commit. If he doesn't commit to ND to BK, but he doesn't commit to UCLA either, then that's when I'll start to wonder if there are other recruits we prefer.

 

[IrishLax]

Maybe the staff prefers Prevot? Conventional wisdom has long been Hollins was ours if we'd only push for him. If true, the fact that he hasn't committed yet indicates that he's a contingency plan.

Touche. That is actually a really good point I didn't consider. I had always assumed the only reason we weren't pushing for Hollins was AQM... and hadn't considered that maybe the staff would rather have Prevot.

Hollins has a better first step and could probably be more versatile... but Prevot has the better frame. Who do you like better?

 

[Whiskeyjack]

Hollins has a better first step and could probably be more versatile... but Prevot has the better frame. Who do you like better?

I would have said Prevot a week ago, but Hollins' recently reported versatility (according to our staff) has caused me to reconsider. If they feel that Hollins could be effective inside (and Prevot couldn't), then it's got to be Hollins, hands down. ILB is a huge position of need for us.

Then again, how close are Vanderdoes and Fitts to Prevot? If adding Prevot boosts our chances with either of those guys, it would change my answer.

 

[Emcee77]

Touche. That is actually a really good point I didn't consider. I had always assumed the only reason we weren't pushing for Hollins was AQM... and hadn't considered that maybe the staff would rather have Prevot.

Hollins has a better first step and could probably be more versatile... but Prevot has the better frame. Who do you like better?

I've said for weeks that I like Prevot better ... but I've changed my mind. Now that I know that the staff thinks Hollins can play either ILB or OLB, I prefer Hollins. Prevot is a pass rushing CAT, and probably no more than that, unless he undergoes a KLM-like transformation, and we are recruiting true DEs like Vanderdoes and Fitts, so not sure we even need Prevot to make that transformation. Considering all that, I prefer Hollins.

 

[IrishLax]

That wisdom may have been incorrect though. Sapp learned last week that Hollins was heavily favoring UCLA. If we get him now it will only be because he was, in his own words, "blown away" by the visit this weekend.

After his visit he told 247 that he had to go home and confer with his parents. First we have to see if he remains as blown away when BK sits down with him as he was when he left campus. If so, then I think he'll commit. If he doesn't, but he doesn't commit to UCLA either, then that's when I'll start to wonder if there are other recruits we prefer.

Well, it was correct at one point but is now quite outdated. The issue at hand is that we backed off for a big chunk of time in the middle stretch and he really solidified things more with UCLA than they were previously heading up to the OV to South Bend. So coming into the visit, most thought it would be a very long shot... whereas initially what got him classified as a soft commit was that he made very strong public comments about his interest in other schools including ND.

You're spot on though that as things stand right now it's not like ND can just push a button and get him to commit. Chances are likely greater than 50% that he will stick with UCLA.

 

[Emcee77]

I would have said Prevot a week ago, but Hollins' recently reported versatility (according to our staff) has caused me to reconsider. If they feel that Hollins could be effective inside (and Prevot couldn't), then it's got to be Hollins, hands down. ILB is a huge position of need for us.

Then again, how close are Vanderdoes and Fitts to Prevot? If adding Prevot boosts our chances with either of those guys, it would change my answer.

Wow, great minds think alike

 

[koonja]

I have a man-crush on tall, athletic OLBs. Give me Prevot. He's an athletic super-freak.

What makes Hollins able to move inside but Prevot not able to?

 

[Whiskeyjack]

I have a man-crush on tall, athletic OLBs. Give me Prevot. He's an athletic super-freak.

To be fair, neither Hollins or Prevot is tall; at least according to Diaco's ideal physical profile for OLB (see Councell and Ishaq).

What makes Hollins able to move inside but Prevot not able to?

We don't really know that for sure. Hollins' versatility is new information, and USC reportedly sees Prevot as a one-dimensional pass rusher. TIFWIW.

 

[koonja]

To be fair, neither Hollins or Prevot is tall; at least according to Diaco's ideal physical profile for OLB (see Councell and Ishaq).



We don't really know that for sure. Hollins' versatility is knew information, and USC reportedly sees Prevot as a one-dimensional pass rusher. TIFWIW.

Prevot is listed anywhere from 6'3 to 6'4 (not bad, but he's no Ishaq), while Hollins ranges from 6'1" to 6'2" based on what service you use. However, I'm skeptical of Hollins's listed height based on the videos I've seen.

 

[woolybug25]

However, I'm skeptical of Hollins's listed height based on the videos I've seen.

You are skeptical of everyone's height. lol

 

[koonja]

You are skeptical of everyone's height. lol

Just Diaco's, Hollins's, and my own, lol.

 

[KillaKelley9]

Not sure if this has been touched on or not, but I keep wondering the relationship between EV, Fitts, and Prevot, if any (besides the obvious USC connection. If we see one guy commit, do one or both of the other guys follow? Not making any predictions or anything like that but it's just something I keep going back to while dreaming about the finish to an incredible class and didn't know if anyone has had similar thoughts?

 

[WakeUpEchoes]

Robby Toma ‏@RobJob293
Coaches get so upset over players decommitting..yet in the blink of an eye they could leave a school for a "better job" #crooked

Truth. Although I've never seen a direct response from a coach getting upset...Save for Les Miles.

 

[Bogtrotter07]

How tall are you?

 

[Whiskeyjack]

Prevot is listed anywhere from 6'3 to 6'4 (not bad, but he's no Ishaq), while Hollins ranges from 6'1" to 6'2" based on what service you use. However, I'm skeptical of Hollins's listed height based on the videos I've seen.

Prevot is listed at 6'3'' by 247, Rivals and ESPN. Scout is the only one listing him at 6'4''.

Hollins is listed at 6'2'' by Rivals, ESPN and Scout. Only 247 lists him shorter than that (6'1.5'').

I think you may be exaggerating the height difference between them. Neither is close to Diaco's prototypical 3-4 OLB, so versatility (e.g. ability to play inside) should probably trump here.

 

[PANDFAN]

Truth. Although I've never seen a direct response from a coach getting upset...Save for Les Miles.

google bo pellini

 

[WakeUpEchoes]

google bo pellini

Wow I never saw this. That's nuts. What a clown. That is not good for future prospects.