Lennay Kekua, A Hoax!

[Mr. McGibblets]

I swear, everything Swarbick said better 100% spot on because there are too many people with too much money and not enough time in the day who will re-expose anything misrepresenting what really went down.

 

[Cogs]

If we would have just played good ND football on January 7th then all we could say was "13-0 National Champs, come again."

But no, now we have to hear all this **** from the people around us.

 

[rikkitikki08]

Moral of the story you guys......Meet people in real life, they are pretty cool

 

[enrico514]

Hasn't someone already commented on how much money this hoax will cause Manti... couldn't the Teo family go after these poor excuses for human beings for lost income?

 

[johnnykillz]

There's no defamation here.

Are you kidding me?

 

[irishpat183]

The only solution to this is to win a BCS bowl next year. **** all of these ND haters... I cannot WAIT until next year when Golson and Daniels lead the offense to the best we've seen in awhile, we know the defense will do its part. GO IRISH

that's not fair, they have extra imaginary players on the field

 

[enrico514]

Moral of the story you guys......Meet people in real life, they are pretty cool

Many people end up meeting their significant other online... sometimes is takes months before they actually meet face to face.

 

[Irish Houstonian]

Technically, "defamation" is publishing a public and damaging lie, which Tuiososopo didn't do.

Te'o could sue for intentional infliction of emotional distress, but he could only recover damages resulting from his emotional stress.

So if he has a breakdown because of the loss of endorsement, he could recover that, but he couldn't recover the endorsement $ itself because that wasn't lost as a result of his breakdown. (It was vice versa). Make sense?

 

[Irish Insanity]

Hasn't someone already commented on how much money this hoax will cause Manti... couldn't the Teo family go after these poor excuses for human beings for lost income?

I believe I saw 350-500k before the draft just in endorsements

 

[Irish To The Core]

After watching Swarbrick's presser, I have no doubt that Manti was played here. I suspect the perpetrators might well have had extortion schemes on their brains. Online scammers are a dime a dozen, I feel bad for Manti. They knew that they could suck him in.

 

[rikkitikki08]

Many people end up meeting their significant other online... sometimes is takes months before they actually meet face to face.

I know buddy, just making a joke...sort of

 

[Irish To The Core]

Moral of the story you guys......Meet people in real life, they are pretty cool

ironic

 

[Irish Insanity]

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[levicarvalho]

This ended my hope to find a girlfriend here

 

[irishff1014]

This is the last time i am looking at this thread. You are going have trolls that want to downgrade Manti. Manti has is not an attention person so why would he on the death of his grandmother. Yes he might be naive but a lot of people are. Look at all the dating sites out there. i can't find the article but there was one published that something like 30% of relationships come from online dating. Its the way of the world.

 

[johnnykillz]

Technically, "defamation" is publishing a public and damaging lie, which Tuiososopo didn't do.

Te'o could sue for intentional infliction of emotional distress, but he could only recover damages resulting from his emotional stress.

So if he has a breakdown because of the loss of endorsement, he could recover that, but he couldn't recover the endorsement $ itself because that wasn't lost as a result of his breakdown. (It was vice versa). Make sense?

Well there are plenty of law students and practicing lawyers here.

Crime certainly seems like a possibility here, through bribery, extortion, etc.

Unless it was to confess it was just a "joke."

Seems like an evil motive if so.

 

[Mr. McGibblets]

ironic

Haha, touche

 

[Irish To The Core]

I think some of Manti's "bros" should pay that Tuiasosopo a little visit and give him a damn good irl beating.

 

[wizards8507]

Hasn't someone already commented on how much money this hoax will cause Manti... couldn't the Teo family go after these poor excuses for human beings for lost income?

No. There's no way to measure a loss there. If he were making $10M a year and this somehow resulted in a pay cut or loss of income then they could sue but you can't measure loss of potential future income.

 

[johnnykillz]

ironic

Lol
ROTMFFLMMFAO!

 

[WakeUpEchoes]

Technically, "defamation" is publishing a public and damaging lie, which Tuiososopo didn't do.

Te'o could sue for intentional infliction of emotional distress, but he could only recover damages resulting from his emotional stress.

So if he has a breakdown because of the loss of endorsement, he could recover that, but he couldn't recover the endorsement $ itself because that wasn't lost as a result of his breakdown. (It was vice versa). Make sense?

Unless you could bring in expert evidence to show, with a certain level of likelihood/causation, that his reputation was damaged in a way, thus he lost X amount of dollars?

Could also get punies as well.

 

[DillonHall]

Too bad we couldn't wait a big longer (damn media!) and see if the alleged perpetrators would try to extort Manti. Then we'd know for sure if it was a hoax or not. Still lots of info to come out...

 

[Grahambo]

Actually not true.

The defamation caused and the possible monetary repercussions in the eve of the NFL draft as well as status image damaged endorsement wise make this a possible criminal case if money was demanded and most certainly civil.

Yeah..IF money was demanded but we are going off of what Jack said and he said none was asked to his knowledge.

Then we move on to extortion.

" A statement is considered to be defamatory per se in Indiana if it imputes one of the following: (1) criminal conduct; (2) a loathsome disease; (3) misconduct in a person’s profession or occupation; or (4) sexual misconduct. Kelley v. Tanoos, 865 N.E.2d 593, 596 (Ind. 2007)."

Indiana Defamation Law | Libel Slander | Attorneys Lawyers

 

[rikkitikki08]

ironic

You know as soon as i posted that i thought to myself " as i type on football message board" haha

 

[nsideirish]

"What evidence do you have that Manti isn't responsible?" "You guys have seen catfish, right?"

 

[ep1987]

Initially i was willing to accept that Te'o became aware of the hoax but was too embarassed to admit it. We already know that he exagerrated the relationship (understandable) but in catfish cases there is always a moment of realisation which leads to further investigation. Not turning up for meetings, rollercoaster events (car crash and leukemia) lead me to beleieve that on some level Manti knew it was a hoax but either kept that fact a secret or was in deep denial.

That's why i can't understand Swarbrick stating that Te'o only became aware he had been duped when he received the phone call. I am concerned both for Manti and to a lesser extent (in the short term at least) the university. I would like to believe that Swarbrick was being honest, however his body language and the story presented led me to believe otherwise.

Whatever the situation this is a difficult time for all concerned and i would be extremely pleased if my reading of the situation was incorrect. Swarbrick's nerves may be due to shock and the potential gravity of the situation given the heightened media focus on ND and its players.

My thoughts are with Manti and once again whatever transpired i pray that he isn't savaged by the media.

 

[yankeeND]

Manti Te'o, 4 years ago signed his LOI to come to ND. I heard it on ESPN radio while at work, and I was elated. He gave me hope that things would turn around for a program I love and will root for till I die. He gave us 4 years of service and I will give him his opportunity to tell us his story. Until proven that he did something wrong I will not turn my back on him. I actually feel that I as a fan, I owe him that. Anything negative that goes on at ND hurts my soul, but bad things happen everyday. People get taken advantage of all the time. Life happens and it isn't always pretty. The face of the program is depending on the kind of high character Manti has proven to have in his time here. Give him his opportunity to come through for this school once again.

 

[Irish Houstonian]

Unless you could bring in expert evidence to show, with a certain level of likelihood/causation, that his reputation was damaged in a way, thus he lost X amount of dollars?

Could also get punies as well.

If you could show that his reputation wasn't monetarily damaged by this scandal, but rather was only damaged by his emotional reaction to it, then yes. Uphill battle...

 

[NoJusticeNoPeace]

I have a hard time believing they would never even Skype. I can't believe that Te'o wasn't behind it.

 

[wizards8507]

Well there are plenty of law students and practicing lawyers here.

Crime certainly seems like a possibility here, through bribery, extortion, etc.

Unless it was to confess it was just a "joke."

Seems like an evil motive if so.

IF there is extortion then it's a crime but nothing in this situation is libel, slander, or defamation. None of these clowns told lies about Manti. They told lies TO Manti and the media spread them. Being a major d bag isn't a criminal offense .