BK stays at ND

[Bogtrotter07]

Haha ok. I figured I covered my bases by poking fun at both sides but somehow still found away to offend someone with my overly political rant. I will make sure to keep me opinions to meself.

I think I know what category of my list you fall into haha.

Yeah, Southwest falls in a different category than you. Don't poke fun and criticize posters that are wrapped up to tight about this situation, then make fun of a respected poster, and expect to come off like some fresh petunia. That is bull; I don't care whether you are faster than me or not.

"Now I absolutely understand the anxiety among our fans. That’s the passion that fuels Notre Dame." Jack Swarbrick.

The fact of the matter is BK thought he was going, clubbed the hell out of it, and once it was sufficiently mushed, proclaimed his love for life . . .

Most people get paid for taking a load like that. BUT, you don't need to poke fun of a bunch of poor slobs who love Our Lady, and a poster that calls you on it, just because he misspells a word or uses poor grammar. First of all that is dShans job, and second, I am not buying that your shiit don't stink.

 

[JughedJones]

I disagree Buster.

I'm not going to Google all the stats, but in Andy Reid's tenure they made the playoffs (and often the NFC Champ game) more often than not.

They have an insane fan base and huge recognition.

I understand that right now they are in a two year down period, but it's still one of the great NFL jobs. Huge market, huge conference, huge exposure, huge money.

Maybe 'elite' is for the Pats, Cowboys, Packers, Steelers, of the world.. but they're not far off.


EDIT: I think any football position is inferior to the ND head coach job by the way.

 

[Rhode Irish]

So it was just leverage after all, no interest in going to the NFL. Thank God for all these level headed posters.

Right. Definitely believe everything people say on the record to the press. Because if he had been leveraged he would totally concede that a couple hours later....

Seriously, some of you guys make the same dumb assumptions over and over. He was never going anywhere, I don't care who says what. This is a better job, and the Eagles would have to be the most incompetent organization in sports to hire someone that doesn't have a single person with NFL coaching experience in his phonebook. How would BK fill out a staff? Just pick the best random group of assistants currently unemployed? NFL coaching staffs are like high school clicks, they all stick together and everyone is part of a tree. BK isn't. He's an outsider. There is a reason they have trees, too. A staff of strangers wouldn't work in the league. Why would the Eagles take that kind of a chance when there are so many qualified NFL coordinators available?

This played out exactly how I said it would from Wednesday night on, and you're taking shots at me because the public relations press conference afterwards contradicted something I said? I sure hope we don't agree on something in the future, because I hate being wrong.

Also, Jack is a goddamned stud and handled everything about this situation exactly how I hope I would have. Didn't passive aggressively crap on anyone, was complimentary of everyone involved, didn't give in and address the growing storm of idiocy around the program as some would have been tempted to do, and he got his guy. The dude is a boss.

 

[notredomer23]

The Eagles are not an elite NFL job. Hell it's an inferior job compared to Notre Dame.

I don't know if elite is the right term, but they are definitely a top 10 franchise. They've had a winning record 17 times since 1990. Not many teams can say that. The only knock on the Eagles is the lack of Super Bowls. And this is coming from someone who hates the Eagles.

 

[Me2SouthBend]

The Eagles are not an elite NFL job. Hell it's an inferior job compared to Notre Dame.

How is the Eagles job not an elite one? Passionate (if not at times delusional) fan base, regularly successful (this year notwithstanding), new stadium, big market, owner willing to do what is needed to win (see pay for talent), was smart enough to consider BK. I think they are a franchise that 85% of NFL fans would trade their last 12 or so years for.

Regardless, have I said how stoked I am for BK to have turned them down and return to his rightful place in South Bend? Go Irish!

 

[PraetorianND]

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[Irish#1]

Jack Swarbrick is the king of college football:


Q: Did you consider not granting permission to the Eagles and would you ever consider doing that with a coach? Or is the healthy thing to do is let somebody see what’s out there and so forth.

Swarbrick: I think it’s the nature of Notre Dame. I have such confidence in the place, and as you know I have such affection for it, if I have a situation where somebody thinks there’s a better place to be, I want them to go. (Translation: If you're not 100% here, don't let the door hit you on the way out.)

Q: Do you feel like this will happen again, that you’ll have to deal with this on an annual or every-other-year basis?

Swarbrick: No, I don’t. I think this was Brian’s first opportunity to explore this and to understand sort of the dynamics that might exist with a premier NFL franchise, so he now has that information and now understands it, so I don’t see this as a regular occurrence. (Translation: I let BK play around with it once and now he knows (been warned), do it again and we might be singing a different song.)

Never question Jack. Just let things play out first.

 

[Me2SouthBend]

I disagree Buster.

I'm not going to Google all the stats, but in Andy Reid's tenure they made the playoffs (and often the NFC Champ game) more often than not.

They have an insane fan base and huge recognition.

I understand that right now they are in a two year down period, but it's still one of the great NFL jobs. Huge market, huge conference, huge exposure, huge money.

Maybe 'elite' is for the Pats, Cowboys, Packers, Steelers, of the world.. but they're not far off.


EDIT: I think any football position is inferior to the ND head coach job by the way.

Hey Jug, didn't you forget the Raiders?

 

[Irish To The Core]

The Eagles are not an elite NFL job. Hell it's an inferior job compared to Notre Dame.

Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. Even biased ones.

Big market. Long history. Passionate fan base. History of competitive teams. (not a dominant team but competitive most years) Big payroll. Extremely stable financially.

The Eagles job is a challenging one, but win and you will reap huge rewards.

 

[ThePiombino]

You are so right. This helped me a lot in getting over this. Thanks

Sarcasm?

 

[tadman95]

Right. Definitely believe everything people say on the record to the press. Because if he had been leveraged he would totally concede that a couple hours later....

Seriously, some of you guys make the same dumb assumptions over and over. He was never going anywhere, I don't care who says what. This is a better job, and the Eagles would have to be the most incompetent organization in sports to hire someone that doesn't have a single person with NFL coaching experience in his phonebook. How would BK fill out a staff? Just pick the best random group of assistants currently unemployed? NFL coaching staffs are like high school clicks, they all stick together and everyone is part of a tree. BK isn't. He's an outsider. There is a reason they have trees, too. A staff of strangers wouldn't work in the league. Why would the Eagles take that kind of a chance when there are so many qualified NFL coordinators available?

This played out exactly how it said it would from Wednesday night on, and you're taking shots at me because the public relations press conference afterwards contradicted something I said? I sure hope we don't agree on something in the future, because I hate being wrong.

Also, Jack is a goddamned stud and handled everything about this situation exactly how I hope I would have. Didn't passive aggressively crap on anyone, was complimentary of everyone involved, didn't give in and address the growing storm of idiocy around the program as some would have been tempted to do, and he got his guy. The dude is a boss.

I agree, these are exceedingly well thought out releases. They cover the bases amazingly well.

 

[JughedJones]

Hey Jug, didn't you forget the Raiders?

Not at all, just didn't want to be homerish about it, and the Silver and Black haven't exactly been a prime coaching destination in a while... lest we forget.

 

[BobD]

I can't believe I was wrong about aliens bringing us a new coach. My sources suck.

 

[cyrano]

The only news I trust in all of this is that BK will be back next year and that they are negotiating a new contract. Otherwise, I think BK and Jack are telling us what we want to hear. The news media was so wrong about much of what they reported over the last few days that I'm not quite ready to accept what they say now as gospel truth.

I'm just happy that BK is back.

 

[phork]

Right. Definitely believe everything people say on the record to the press. Because if he had been leveraged he would totally concede that a couple hours later....

Who do you believe then? People with inside sources who speak off the record, or whats said on the record. All the evidence points to more than "leverage".

This played out exactly how it said it would from Wednesday night on, and you're taking shots at me because the public relations press conference afterwards contradicted something I said? I sure hope we don't agree on something in the future, because I hate being wrong.

We all knew it would, but don't tell me for one second you thought "Oh Oh".

Also, Jack is a goddamned stud and handled everything about this situation exactly how I hope I would have. Didn't passive aggressively crap on anyone, was complimentary of everyone involved, didn't give in and address the growing storm of idiocy around the program as some would have been tempted to do, and he got his guy. The dude is a boss.

Never questioned Jack's character or integrity.

 

[Irish YJ]

The Eagles are not an elite NFL job. Hell it's an inferior job compared to Notre Dame.

The "job" in itself, sure, it's better to all of us as Irish fans. It's probably more attractive from a national perspective as well. It is though a level lower in terms of career if you agree that the NFL is the biggest stage. As attractive as ND is in many senses, it's also more pain. In the most basic terms, it's still about dreams, love, and cash. Each person has his/her own opinion about those things.

 

[Rhode Irish]

Never questioned Jack's character or integrity.

Yeah that part wasn't to you, was just kind of an aside. I think Jack's awesomeness is something we can all agree on.

To answer your first question, I don't really care about supposed "inside sources" much more than I care about press releases, because in either case they're just interested parties advancing their agenda. It's all "spin." People have all kinds of reasons for saying things, but informing the public usually isn't one of them.

Usually when I'm assessing something, especially something where people are very likely trying to posture or mislead, I try to step back from it and assess it from 10,000 feet. What explains all of this situation in its totality? How does that jive with what I think I know or what I believe about things? In that process, I give very little credence to what involved parties are saying on the record, although I may give a lot of weight to their actions and what I perceive to be the likely motivations for them (i.e., don't care what Jack or Kelly say to media today, but do care that Trace Armstrong leaked this to his clients in the media - and what his motivation would be for doing that).

 

[Irish#1]

The only news I trust in all of this is that BK will be back next year and that they are negotiating a new contract. Otherwise, I think BK and Jack are telling us what we want to hear. The news media was so wrong about much of what they reported over the last few days that I'm not quite ready to accept what they say now as gospel truth.

I'm just happy that BK is back.

If you know anything about Swarbricks background before he came to ND, then you might have a different opinion.

 

[rtrn2glory]

Tell this guy that.

my opinion hasn't changed....so choke on that.

glad he's back, but i doubt that if ND wanted him back enough they would not have been outbid by the philadelphia eagles.

 

[cyrano]

If you know anything about Swarbricks background before he came to ND, then you might have a different opinion.

I'm willing to be enlightened. I just think he wants to make sure that what he says is best for the program, not necessarily what is true (which is completely fine with me because I don't think he owes us the truth in this matter).

 

[koonja]

Glad everything worked. I said if BK comes back it's because he's confident he can win a NC at ND.

All of you that turned on BK, take a lap.

 

[GoIrish41]

Don't be a dick. Be happy that this is over.

And never mix politics and ND football.

Someone should say this to Brian Kelly. lol

 

[Irish#1]

I'm willing to be enlightened. I just think he wants to make sure that what he says is best for the program, not necessarily what is true (which is completely fine with me because I don't think he owes us the truth in this matter).

Swarbrick was involved in a number of high profile sports activities for the city of Indianapolis. If I remember correctly, one of them was bringing the NCAA to Indy. Anyway everytime he spoke on TV or was quoted in the paper it was pretty much what was reported and played out.

For those that are pissed at BK or no longer trust him, remember, he didn't call the Eagles, they called him. He listened like all of us would and then remained with the Irish.

 

[Mr. Larson]

I can't believe I was wrong about aliens bringing us a new coach. My sources suck.

Don't feel bad, Bob. My sources told me this guy was taking over as Offensive Coordinator if Martin good the HC gig:

 

[Pachuco]

So does this mean we can now anticipate Diaco getting a big extension and salary increase? Or was that lunch just to fill time?

 

[NDFan4Life88]

The Eagles are not an elite NFL job. Hell it's an inferior job compared to Notre Dame.

I am an Eagles fan and I would not consider them "elite." However, it is a top ten destination. You bring just one Super Bowl to this town and they may put a statue of you where William Penn currently resides.

 

[ulukinatme]

If some of you were playing Poker, BK would have you bluffed out of your chips and shirt. Me, I'm waiting for him to show his hand.

Just remember this when the talks come up again in 3-5 years.

 

[JadeBrecks]

So we put Diaco in the 2013 recruit sidebar but not Kelly?

 

[domerfreak]

Well we have a coach…again
many of you have claimed that this will be an ongoing event the better that the football team is and or gets. Do you guys think within this contract writing JS and UND has blocked communication in some form with any team for a couple years. No way should JS leave the door open for another “leverage” tactic from Bk later down the road.

 

[KPENN]

So we put Diaco in the 2013 recruit sidebar but not Kelly?

Must be cause Diaco is better looking.

No homo