'13 NJ DE Alquadin Muhammad (Miami Verbal)

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I hope out hope that whatever the problem it is resolved; once that happens I could see him decommitting from Miami (or whomever) and committing to the Irish. One can hope right?

I don't think there's any doubt he wants to be here, so I think it's safe to say that if things get ironed out that he would flip to is. This is assuming of course that there is still room at this time.
 

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We're still slated to get a visit, right? As long as we're continuing to recruit him, I'll hold out hope.

Whiskey, what are you hearing in terms of timeline of a possible visit (heard a couple dif things)? Also, any fire to the Bama spoke?
 

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Whiskey, what are you hearing in terms of timeline of a possible visit (heard a couple dif things)? Also, any fire to the Bama spoke?

Nothing concrete yet. Allegedly wants to take visits even after his announcement (I'm reading that as holding the door open for an ND flip).

No clue if there's any substance to the 'Bama rumors. I want to say no, but they tend to get most everyone they want.
 

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There is no visit planned at this point. The proper work on his end hasn't been completed. Once he does that, it sounds like we'll be laying out the red carpet for this kid but that has to get done first. That's why this has become bizarre to me. Wants to be at ND but at the moment can't be, so instead of waiting and getting the necessary work done he just has to commit to Miami with plenty of time decide. Strange to say the least.
 
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There is no visit planned at this point. The proper work on his end hasn't been completed. Once he does that, it sounds like we'll be laying out the red carpet for this kid but that has to get done first. That's why this has become bizarre to me. Wants to be at ND but at the moment can't be, so instead of waiting and getting the necessary work done he just has to commit to Miami with plenty of time decide. Strange to say the least.

Or he's saving a spot.

If he can't get into ND and waits until the end he could be left out in the cold.
 

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There is no visit planned at this point. The proper work on his end hasn't been completed. Once he does that, it sounds like we'll be laying out the red carpet for this kid but that has to get done first. That's why this has become bizarre to me. Wants to be at ND but at the moment can't be, so instead of waiting and getting the necessary work done he just has to commit to Miami with plenty of time decide. Strange to say the least.

That's where I'm at. If I'm in flux, I'm not commiting to anyone until I know. That is, unless I'm trying to secure a spot. I doubt Miami would give him an ultimatum...
 

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I just gotta believe that he is a take no matter what for Miami. But maybe they have convinced him otherwise, now I'm just purely speculating.
 

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Hypothetical situation/question:

Lets say we get EV on NSD and one of Hollins/Prevot as well. Assuming we land Max tonight, that would seem to finish the class. BUT, what if AQM's status works out and he visits ND last minute. Will the staff be able to accept a flip? We all know he's numero uno on the board, ahead of Prevot and Hollins. But if one of those guys are already in the books, would the staff actually say no to AQM? Seems to me this would be a case of letting Carlo go and accepting AQM.

Everyone knows he wants to be at ND but can't get in. No one seems to be speculating on the possibility that we land our backup option first (Prevot/Hollins) and then AQM gets things worked out and wants to flip...
 
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Hypothetical situation/question:

Lets say we get EV on NSD and one of Hollins/Prevot as well. Assuming we land Max tonight, that would seem to finish the class. BUT, what if AQM's status works out and he visits ND last minute. Will the staff be able to accept a flip? We all know he's numero uno on the board, ahead of Prevot and Hollins. But if one of those guys are already in the books, would the staff actually say no to AQM? Seems to me this would be a case of letting Carlo go and accepting AQM.

Everyone knows he wants to be at ND but can't get in. No one seems to be speculating on the possibility that we land our backup option first (Prevot/Hollins) and then AQM gets things worked out and wants to flip...

I miscounted. Look below.
 
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Just can't see the numbers working out for that to happen unless there is a medical hardship or transfer. They won't let both Carlo and Fox go and currently that is what they would have to do if we took a fifth commit.
 

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what if carlo has a monster title game?? not out of the question, nor am i saying it will happen, but say he does.

imo if he commits to bama the liklihood of flipping him is tougher due to the fact he will probably visit them after he commits saturday regardless rather than committing to miami where he's already gone.

just really wish this would get worked out. he's been my biggest want since september.
 

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I miscounted. Look below.

Just can't see the numbers working out for that to happen unless there is a medical hardship or transfer. They won't let both Carlo and Fox go and currently that is what they would have to do if we took a fifth commit.

Sorry, I miscounted as well. Completely forgot about Folston recently committing.

My question still stands though. Say Prevot, Redfield, and EV round out this class. You really think the staff will say no to AQM if this gets worked out by NSD? I realize there would need to be a roster shakeup, but I just can't imagine the staff not trying to work this out.

NOTE: I'm still speaking in hypothetical terms. I'm not suggesting that AQM will in fact be able to flip. I'm just asking what if...
 

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With Doug Randolph already in the fold I don't see how we could take 2 more. 3 prospects at CAT in one class is too much. I think ND has just got to take which ever one of the 3 left bites first and thats it.
 

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Sorry, I miscounted as well. Completely forgot about Folston recently committing.

My question still stands though. Say Prevot, Redfield, and EV round out this class. You really think the staff will say no to AQM if this gets worked out by NSD? I realize there would need to be a roster shakeup, but I just can't imagine the staff not trying to work this out.

They've been trying. At some point, they have to make a choice to either slow-play Hollins/Prevot or risk that their won't be room for AQM.
 

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They've been trying. At some point, they have to make a choice to either slow-play Hollins/Prevot or risk that their won't be room for AQM.

Right. It's clearly wishful thinking. It's just hard to imagine turning away one of your top prospects because it was just too late.
 

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They've been trying. At some point, they have to make a choice to either slow-play Hollins/Prevot or risk that their won't be room for AQM.

If Hollins or Prevot bite I say we take em and move on. AQM is the best but at this point any 4 start CAT prospect would suit me just fine. If comes down to rolling to taking one of the other guys or rolling the dice and wait, I say take one of the other guys.

Then again at times I am too much of a settle for silver kind of guy.
 

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If Hollins or Prevot bite I say we take em and move on. AQM is the best but at this point any 4 start CAT prospect would suit me just fine. If comes down to rolling to taking one of the other guys or rolling the dice and wait, I say take one of the other guys.

Then again at times I am too much of a settle for silver kind of guy.

lean w/ this and hope it help w/ vanderdoes
 

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no prblem with me ending up with prevot eddie and max to finsih this thing off.

the 2014 class is when we really leverage this season on the trail.
 

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what if carlo has a monster title game?? not out of the question, nor am i saying it will happen, but say he does.

imo if he commits to bama the liklihood of flipping him is tougher due to the fact he will probably visit them after he commits saturday regardless rather than committing to miami where he's already gone.

just really wish this would get worked out. he's been my biggest want since september.

Normally, I'd LOL at this comment. But the fact that we're playing a team that actually plays into Carlo's style, has me actually agreeing with. But I still have to look at his season as a whole. I'd rather AA start next year than Carlo. So I let him walk
 

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Still think he ends up Irish by signing day.

I do as well. I think he's just trying to have a backup plan in place in the event the academic issue (whatever it is) doesn't get resolved.
 
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Rumor around NJ is he is missing a core course for ND... sounds like Standifer to me
 

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Still think he ends up Irish by signing day.

I hope so but that is looking increasingly unlikely.

In the Prevot thread DomeLover and Ironman, two guys with Bosco connex, are saying that AQM is missing required coursework because of his transfer. That seems like a pretty serious issue and not a quick fix.

I know the staff hasn't given up completely but I am a little pessimistic now.
 

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Rumor around NJ is he is missing a core course for ND... sounds like Standifer to me

If that's true, isn't that something that could be resolved in the winter semester and/or summer school?
 

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If that's true, isn't that something that could be resolved in the winter semester and/or summer school?

It couldn't for Standifer. We'll see but for the first time I think it's more likely than not that AQM will not be a part of the 2013 class.
 
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I hope so but that is looking increasingly unlikely.

In the Prevot thread DomeLover and Ironman, two guys with Bosco connex, are saying that AQM is missing required coursework because of his transfer. That seems like a pretty serious issue and not a quick fix.

I know the staff hasn't given up completely but I am a little pessimistic now.

If it's one concrete class he's missing, I don't see why the staff is still recruiting him. I mean, missing a class is black and white; there has to be a solution. Maybe he can satisfy it by taking an online class or summer class as someone mentioned above, and they're trying to convince him to do that rather than take path of least resistance (aka, Miami).
 
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Well this is just me using my intuition, but as Emcee pointed out it wasn't something worked out for Standifer. Maybe he could take an online course, but it would have to be approved by ND admissions, which you would think they have a list of "approved" online schools that people could get credit for completing courses through. But Standifer took a Spanish class online that was not accepted by ND.

It seems apparent that there is mutual interest, but the problem is his core classes.

This is why high school guidance counselors need to find out what students are interested in D1 athletics and work in cooperation with them to find a list of schools they are interested in and make sure they meet all academic/course requirements BEFORE senior year

Going to suck if it is indeed something that can't be worked out
 

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If it's one concrete class he's missing, I don't see why the staff is still recruiting him. I mean, missing a class is black and white; there has to be a solution. Maybe he can satisfy it by taking an online class or summer class as someone mentioned above, and they're trying to convince him to do that rather than take path of least resistance (aka, Miami).

That's a good point; in fact I made the exact same point in the Prevot thread. But that's what we said about Standifer, and it turned out to be a little worse than just one class, and we ended up unable to get him in even with the online Spanish class. So we'll just have to see but right now I don't think it looks good at all.
 
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