Brian Kelly for COY

IrishLax

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I'm not sure who expected PSU to win 7 games at the beginning of the year. I thought they might win 4 or 5. O'Brien did an amazing job navigating through some pretty hefty distractions to have an 8-4 season. I personally think BK should win the award, but I wouldn't be upset if O'Brien won it.

The only people that matter... half the lines were set at 6.5 wins, the other half at 7 wins. Vegas is simply a reflection of the public's perception so basically half of world thought PSU would win MORE than 7 games and half of the world thought they would win LESS than 7 games.

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Congrats Coach Kelly.....ND needs two more pieces of hardware and ill be happy
 

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The only people that matter... half the lines were set at 6.5 wins, the other half at 7 wins. Vegas is simply a reflection of the public's perception so basically half of world thought PSU would win MORE than 7 games and half of the world thought they would win LESS than 7 games.
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I see where you are going, but Vegas does not reflect the public perception, at least not after true cappers start laying their bets one way or another.

Right now Bama is favored by 10 or 10.5. Once the sharps start laying they will push the line whichever way they want to.

On another note, isn't there another COY award coming up that Kelly is in running for?
 
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Awesome! Congrats BK! ND is cleaning up on awards this year.
 

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I see where you are going, but Vegas does not reflect the public perception, at least not after true cappers start laying their bets one way or another.

Right now Bama is favored by 10 or 10.5. Once the sharps start laying they will push the line whichever way they want to.

On another note, isn't there another COY award coming up that Kelly is in running for?

Yes...And Fan vote isn't helping him. Coach of the Year - Liberty Mutual
 

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Crazy that this is BK's 4th Coach of the Year awards in the past decade (2 Division II while at Grand Valley in '02-'03). The guy simply knows how to coach.
 

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Crazy that this is BK's 4th Coach of the Year awards in the past decade (2 Division II while at Grand Valley in '02-'03). The guy simply knows how to coach.

You hit the nail on the head. He has done a great job here. Hope he stays for a long time.
 

IrishLax

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I see where you are going, but Vegas does not reflect the public perception, at least not after true cappers start laying their bets one way or another.

Right now Bama is favored by 10 or 10.5. Once the sharps start laying they will push the line whichever way they want to.

What? Can you try to explain what you're getting at in more detail?

Trust me when I say this, I am no stranger to Vegas, lines, etc. and how it all works. And I even have a couple friends who do this kind of thing professionally (online... they take advantage of the inefficiency in moneylines between different online books using computer programs... moved to South America in order to do it legally). I don't understand what you're trying to say though.

Are you saying that a huge amount of "shark money" came in on the OVER 7 wins while the "public money" all came in on the UNDER? This kind of thing happens, but it's not common. Especially with pre-season betting because you have to front the money and then wait 3+ months to collect on it. Typically pre-season props are not heavily bet by the syndicates because it's a waste of their capital... much less bet so heavily it's going to affect a line by a win or two. Is your premise that public perception would've put the line at 5 wins or less but the "shark money" kept it high?

Do you have any evidence of that?
 

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Congrats Coach!

Really with the job he did it was a no brainer.
 

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Congrats Brian Kelly, more quantity and quality recruits will want to come to Notre Dame now that Kelly's prestige will skyrocket from getting COY.

Brian Kelly is waking up the echoes and shaking down the thunder.
 

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Many thanks Irishman-with-the-Leprechaun-twinkle-in-your-eye. Love all you do, Coach. Stay with us. Stay healthy. This won't be the last.
 

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I'm not sure who expected PSU to win 7 games at the beginning of the year. I thought they might win 4 or 5. O'Brien did an amazing job navigating through some pretty hefty distractions to have an 8-4 season. I personally think BK should win the award, but I wouldn't be upset if O'Brien won it.

It's funny how easily we forget how big this tragedy was. After the transfer restriction was lifted I was surprised O'Brien found 22 players willing to take the field.
 
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