'13 WA TE/OLB Danny Mattingly (Oregon Verbal)

[Ultimate Penn St. Hater]

As a Sox fan, I never liked his uncle, but I wish Danny well wherever he goes.

 

[SouthernComfort]

Once spaghetti arms, always spaghetti arms. Spaghetti armed LBers for the loss.

 

[phork]

Room for someone else that wants to be here. Next man in.

 

[arrowryan]

*shrugs shoulders* Oh well, good luck Danny. I'm excited to see who replaces him

 

[irishmarine]

One mans loss is another mans gain

 

[ndfi78]

Once spaghetti arms, always spaghetti arms. Spaghetti armed LBers for the loss.

Way to be an ***

 

[Bogtrotter07]

Once spaghetti arms, always spaghetti arms. Spaghetti armed LBers for the loss.

Anyone should know better than to post bullshiit like this. Kids making big decisions. Here is a number: 0.00007 % Number of people that have posted on this board that know what it is like to compete at a level higher than the spitoon next to their bar stool.

 

[Irish YJ]

Anyone should know better than to post bullshiit like this. Kids making big decisions. Here is a number: 0.00007 % Number of people that have posted on this board that know what it is like to compete at a level higher than the spitoon next to your bar stool.

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All my time on this board I've never neg rep'd someone... today was a good first...

 

[Rambler09]

He seemed like a great kid, but I was secretly hoping this would happen. This opens up a spot for a kid with elite talent. Good luck to you, Danny!

 

[50milesSE ND]

I'm just disappointed in our fans that are happy we lost this kid. Few years ago we would have been really happy. Hope we as fans aren't getting greedy. I hope for the big names as much as anyone here, but don't forget that not all 5* turn out great or 3* turn out to be average. This kid may really develop once in college considering where he plays football. Deeb is only a 3*, but I can't wait to see him play.

 

[koonja]

I'm just disappointed in our fans that are happy we lost this kid. Few years ago we would have been really happy. Hope we as fans aren't getting greedy. I hope for the big names as much as anyone here, but don't forget that not all 5* turn out great or 3* turn out to be average. This kid may really develop once in college considering where he plays football. Deeb is only a 3*, but I can't wait to see him play.

Because sometimes the grass is greener on the other side.

Why not? Tis the season. We're on top of the world.

A hell of a lot more 5-stars turn into stars than 3-stars.

 

[ThePiombino]

It's not like this kid wants to be here, but can't cut it grades-wise. He is consciously choosing to renege on a commitment, not us and not the school - him. I wish him the best wherever he lands, but he deserves no kid glove treatment IMO.

 

[TheTurningPoint]

This kid has potential through the roof on either side of the ball. I know that some with opinions that matter thought he had a very ceiling and thought he was the steal of the class. In my opinion Mattingly is huge loss for this class. Granted we will fill the spot with a quality player when the spot becomes open, but this kids skill set is a rare combo.

 

[SouthernComfort]

-It's not like this kid wants to be here, but can't cut it grades-wise. He is consciously choosing to renege on a commitment, not us and not the school - him. I wish him the best wherever he lands, but he deserves no kid glove treatment IMO.

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Its amazing how if ND pulls the commitment, when there are far superior prospects, its the Devil's work. A prospect can dump ND at the dance and thats okay. I wasnt big on this guy from the get go. Physically, he didnt look like he could compete. If Im a jerk because I want ND to have the best guys who can physically compete and be dominating, then Im a jerk I guess.

 

[Domina Nostra]

-It's not like this kid wants to be here, but can't cut it grades-wise. He is consciously choosing to renege on a commitment, not us and not the school - him. I wish him the best wherever he lands, but he deserves no kid glove treatment IMO.

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Its amazing how if ND pulls the commitment, when there are far superior prospects, its the Devil's work. A prospect can dump ND at the dance and thats okay. I wasnt big on this guy from the get go. Physically, he didnt look like he could compete. If Im a jerk because I want ND to have the best guys who can physically compete and be dominating, then Im a jerk I guess.

Yes. If you really think its fine to offer a kid a scholarship and then pull it out from under him when something better comes along, then you are a jerk. ND shouldn't do that, and kids shouldn't string schools along either.

But I do agree that once the kid is looking around, or if his grades are on the borderline, that's a different subject. The key is to be upfront about your expectations.

 

[QuarrelsomeIrishAmerican]

Sad to lose this kid, but with 4 LB's already on board and a pass rusher like Muhammad (sp?)ready to jump on and an elite DT like Vanderdoes looking like he wants to, we are in a good place. I wasn't wishing he decommitted, but I'm not shedding a tear either.

 

[peoriairish]

This kid has potential through the roof on either side of the ball. I know that some with opinions that matter thought he had a very ceiling and thought he was the steal of the class. In my opinion Mattingly is huge loss for this class. Granted we will fill the spot with a quality player when the spot becomes open, but this kids skill set is a rare combo.

I agree 100%. This kid's ceiling is non existent. I'm pretty sad to have lost him cause he was going to be am outstanding player for us. But if he doesn't want to be here, good luck kid. I wish you all the best.

 

[Buster Bluth]

This kid has potential through the roof on either side of the ball. I know that some with opinions that matter thought he had a very ceiling and thought he was the steal of the class. In my opinion Mattingly is huge loss for this class. Granted we will fill the spot with a quality player when the spot becomes open, but this kids skill set is a rare combo.

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[NDPhilly]

I'd rather lose someone besides him but once we got Doug Randolph Mattingly became somewhat expendable.

 

[Ironman8]

I'd rather lose someone besides him but once we got Doug Randolph Mattingly became somewhat expendable.

Disagree on the expendable part, unless you mean because his heart isn't here. Talent wise, I think a lot of you are underrating him - skillset and versatility wise. He reminded me of a mix between Ben Councell and Troy Niklas, and would sure love to have him in the mix. We have seen what BK and Co. can do with big skill guys with his kind of talent.

 

[Zwidmanio]

Disagree on the expendable part, unless you mean because his heart isn't here. Talent wise, I think a lot of you are underrating him - skillset and versatility wise. He reminded me of a mix between Ben Councell and Troy Niklas, and would sure love to have him in the mix. We have seen what BK and Co. can do with big skill guys with his kind of talent.

This is a good point that a lot of people seem to be missing. While we may be in the mix with some players that are ranked considerably higher, I can't think of any that have the versatility that Mattingly seemed to have. I realize that all things are not equal in this case, but if they were I'd most certainly want to take a player that had the ability to play multiple positions, particularly since ND's staff has proven themselves to be quite good at fitting players into a role that suits them. Am I concerned and angst filled? Not on the least, but Mattingly is a better prospect for us than many are, now, giving him credit for.

On another note, I wish some ND fans would show a little more class. When a player commits or is committed they're all over their d!(k, but when something happens all of a sudden it's "we don't need him" and "he wasn't that great anyway." Honestly, a little objectivity and tact would serve them well. I would think that after the whole Anzalone fiasco we would be a little bit more mindful of trying to keep pur comments a bit more civil...at the very least until something official comes out. Either way, talking $hit about some kid that's trying to make a difficult decision says more about the commentator than the kid, that much is certain.

 

[RubberSoul]

The staff chose not to even visit him while on the west coast, correct? Doesnt sound like they were particularly distraught over the prospect of losing him.

 

[Ironman8]

The staff chose not to even visit him while on the west coast, correct? Doesnt sound like they were particularly distraught over the prospect of losing him.

Or it was already done.

 

[SouthernComfort]

Yes. If you really think its fine to offer a kid a scholarship and then pull it out from under him when something better comes along, then you are a jerk. ND shouldn't do that, and kids shouldn't string schools along either.

But I do agree that once the kid is looking around, or if his grades are on the borderline, that's a different subject. The key is to be upfront about your expectations.

So ND offered over 100 prospects ranging from 3 stars to 5 stars. So if 20 3 stars said yes in the first month, should ND say no to all the 4 and 5 stars that may take longer weighing their options?

I understand the reasoning for offering 3 stars. While usually not gamebreaking players, they typically can play good football and obviously you have no idea how many 4 or 5 stars will come and you dont want an empty class. But you cant tell me Mattingly wasnt the WORST of the ND LB commits and probably wouldnt have played a lot of ball in comparison unless he just really turned it around college time. ND is looking at turning away good RBs and DBs so that this guy could have a spot at the table when odds are he wouldnt have been a great contributor in the end.

If you think thats the way to be field a winning team, you are wrong. Is it the "right" thing to do? Sure. But today unfortunately America and its ideologys are about Ws and Ls not the doing right thing anymore.

 

[NDdomer2]

All I know is recruiting star rankings don't win football games.

 

[TheTurningPoint]

I'd rather lose someone besides him but once we got Doug Randolph Mattingly became somewhat expendable.

Couldnt be farther from the truth with this statement. Randolph can play OLB/ILB or grow into a DE. He is perfect for the CAT position. Mattingly has the skill set to play CAT/DOG/MIKE/WILL and TE. The staff saw him as LB ala Anthony Barr and he wanted to play TE ala Anthony Barr. If you really look at his movements/coverage/step off the edge...its a bigger Jaylon. He isnt quite as agile but he has that step, range, and football sense.

 

[NDPhilly]

Couldnt be farther from the truth with this statement. Randolph can play OLB/ILB or grow into a DE. He is perfect for the CAT position. Mattingly has the skill set to play CAT/DOG/MIKE/WILL and TE. The staff saw him as LB ala Anthony Barr and he wanted to play TE ala Anthony Barr. If you really look at his movements/coverage/step off the edge...its a bigger Jaylon. He isnt quite as agile but he has that step, range, and football sense.

Where was I wrong lol? Randolph and Mattingly can play the same positions. Randolph played TE in HS to.

 

[Buster Bluth]

All I know is recruiting star rankings don't win football games.

It tends to help.

 

[pkt77242]

So ND offered over 100 prospects ranging from 3 stars to 5 stars. So if 20 3 stars said yes in the first month, should ND say no to all the 4 and 5 stars that may take longer weighing their options?

I understand the reasoning for offering 3 stars. While usually not gamebreaking players, they typically can play good football and obviously you have no idea how many 4 or 5 stars will come and you dont want an empty class. But you cant tell me Mattingly wasnt the WORST of the ND LB commits and probably wouldnt have played a lot of ball in comparison unless he just really turned it around college time. ND is looking at turning away good RBs and DBs so that this guy could have a spot at the table when odds are he wouldnt have been a great contributor in the end.

If you think thats the way to be field a winning team, you are wrong. Is it the "right" thing to do? Sure. But today unfortunately America and its ideologys are about Ws and Ls not the doing right thing anymore.

All I will say is that you are a fan of the wrong team. GTFO.

 

[gkIrish]

I think when this cycle is all said and done we will get a recruit that is going to make a bigger impact (and sooner) than Danny. Wish him the best but with our success this year we will have a chance to pick up a more talented player at a position with bigger need (DLine?).