Manti Te'o for Heisman

[NDFan4Life]

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[JughedJones]

33-29 now in the voting...smh

can we as a community promise to not use 'smh' anymore?

Manti for Heisman. Kelly said it best.

 

[IHateMarkMay]

It really depends on how the voters look at it. Manzeils numbers are great, but, most of them came from inferior opponnets. Te'O is the best player on the best team in the country... Some voters vote that way, some voters refuse to vote for a freshman... We'll see I guess.

 

[ChiRish]

If Manti doesn't win the Heisman this year, the award will lose any meaning it has left in my mind.

Manti's season is a culmination of an outstanding career at ND. A season which wouldn't have even happened if it weren't for the characteristics in the young man that exemplify the ideals for which the award stands. He committed to ND for reasons he couldn't quite explain at the time, but I think he's the type of guy that wants to come into a tough situation and work his tail off to make it better. He took a struggling program, one which many wanted to label as "irrelevant", hoisted it on his back and said "follow me."

He had defensive plays that directly led to 4 ND victories this year. He led the team in tackles, again. He was 2nd in the nation in INTs and 1st, by a wide margin, among non-secondary players. He led arguably the best defense in the country, allowing only 9 TDs in 12 games. And oh yeah, he is the unquestionable locker room and field leader for an UNDEFEATED FIGHTING IRISH TEAM!!

What more do you want Heisman voters? A 150 QB rating?

This is absolutely spot on. Well said.

For me, it's just plain obvious that it should go to Te'o. Anyone who has followed this team all year, or has even remotely heard of and/or followed the story of Te'o, knows the special way he carries himself and leads his team.

This isn't about the best stats, or the most important player to his team, because you can even argue based on those that Manti should win. Really, this just comes down to feel. And you'd be hard pressed to find anyone in the college football profession who can honestly say that there is a more deserving, better player in college football than Manti.

Give him the Heisman. It's the right choice. He's played a crucial role in elevating one of the premier programs in college football history back to the top and into it's national championship game. He's united a defense around him and turned it into the best in the country. He's served as the undeniable leader of an Irish team that banded around him and helped fuse the relationship between Kelly and the rest of the seniors. He came back for his senior year because he values things like loyalty, family, education, and success. He's done it on the field this year, even adding interceptions to the mix.

It's a no brainer. Manti epitomizes all that the Heisman stands for.

 

[Irish#1]

Have faith, Manti will win it.

 

[IrishFBfanatic]

 

[Kaneyoufeelit]

Awesome pic.

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[ARALOU]

The argument for Woodson's Heisman year was that he helped a team win Big Ten Championship and a shot at a NC even if his stats were not eye opening but solid. He beat out Peyton Manning who in my mind stood for everything the Heisman was about.


Anyway, by those standards, wouldnt one think that Manti fits both descriptions?

 

[GoldenIsThyFame]

Should finish second in the voting which will be a remarkable achievement. Think that Manziel has locked it all up though barring something drastic happening.

 

[McGlovin]

Should finish second in the voting which will be a remarkable achievement. Think that Manziel has locked it all up though barring something drastic happening.

You think they'll bypass the "Freshman Barrier"? They did with Tebow as a Sophomore, but a Freshman? It just seems Te'o is the obvious choice, being a Senior, having the great stat-line, and just a remarkable story. I'll have my fingers crossed for sure.

 

[ARALOU]

I have been shocked before. Like others have said, I don't put much stock in it anymore.

 

[JM-Photo]

 

[Bogtrotter07]

Just had dream. Bad news was it was while I was driving. Good news was it was that everybody knew about Johnny F's background and when a few dug deeper, all they found was a kid of fairly average character maximizing on his football tallents.

He is from Texas and the SEC; his friend used the "N" word, which started the fight for which he was busted, and then he used a fake ID. Also, he is a freshman and plays the part.

With the climate in the country, I believe all of these cost him significant votes. And above that, smart football folks will see through his numbers.

Now for Manti; each voter and the Heisman comittee have a chance to do the right thing. That is real popular these days. I don't think the comittee will let us down. Johnny won't get it. Not saying someone other than Manti won't, but I am feeling better and better about it . . .

 

[GoldenIsThyFame]

You think they'll bypass the "Freshman Barrier"? They did with Tebow as a Sophomore, but a Freshman? It just seems Te'o is the obvious choice, being a Senior, having the great stat-line, and just a remarkable story. I'll have my fingers crossed for sure.

Manziel is now a 2/9 favorite to win. HeismanPundit has already declared him the winner (he has accurately predicted the last who knows how many). A&M is trendy and "Johnny Football" is the current meme of the internet. If he didn't have the game he did against Bama I would say Manti would win but that one game I think put him over the top. Breaking Cam Newton's record this past weekend probably didn't help either. Voters are much more likely to vote a freshman than a defensive player imo.

 

[Grahambo]

Manziel is now a 2/9 favorite to win. HeismanPundit has already declared him the winner (he has accurately predicted the last who knows how many). A&M is trendy and "Johnny Football" is the current meme of the internet. If he didn't have the game he did against Bama I would say Manti would win but that one game I think put him over the top. Voters are much more likely to vote a freshman than a defensive player imo.

Sad.

 

[Bogtrotter07]

I am holding intentions that everyone's perceptions are as advanced and socially conscious as ours. I will not quit or bend. I will believe!

 

[connor_in]

Just had dream. Bad news was it was while I was driving. Good news was it was that everybody knew about Johnny F's background and when a few dug deeper, all they found was a kid of fairly average character maximizing on his football tallents.

He is from Texas and the SEC; his friend used the "N" word, which started the fight for which he was busted, and then he used a fake ID. Also, he is a freshman and plays the part.

With the climate in the country, I believe all of these cost him significant votes. And above that, smart football folks will see through his numbers.

Now for Manti; each voter and the Heisman comittee have a chance to do the right thing. That is real popular these days. I don't think the comittee will let us down. Johnny won't get it. Not saying someone other than Manti won't, but I am feeling better and better about it . . .

I hope you are correct Bogs...HOWEVER, I will say that in reading articles about the Heisman race around the web, other than here, I have seen a total of ONE reference to an off field situation and that was about as much detail that they gave. I am going to guess that the majority of voters will not even be aware of this situation, thus it will not impact his vote totals much.

 

[irishff1014]

Speechless WOW

 

[Ultimate Penn St. Hater]

Outstanding!

 

[Ag11]

Hey guys I am a big A&M fan and therefore a huge JFF supporter for heisman and I just came over here to try to gain some insight from your perspective on why you believe that Manti should win. I come in peace and admittedly I haven't gotten to watch as many ND games as I would have liked..

After reading some of the comments here on this thread and seeing the video ND put out it seems that a major theme is that his presence transcends stats and has led this team back to prominence. As an outside observer though I am not even sure Teo is the best defensive player on your team. Not by a large margin at least. And that's nothing against him but just goes to show how good your over defense is.

Statistically it has been a good season for him but its nothing that doesn't happen every year. Heck JF has more TD's than Teo has tackles over the past two games. So it must be something more to the story but I find it a little deflating to hear that what I am missing is an inspirational story and good grades. Not that those aren't awesome and it makes me respect the heck out of him but I find it a little patronizing to give him an award because of something other than merit.

You can bring up Johnny's arrest and compare who is more holy but it would be really sad to have this turn into an American Idol situation where no one cares who sings the best but rather who's story can they market. (The same way Johnny has received more fame because of his nickname). I am just saying emotional leader is great but inspiration can't be measured. Sideline jumping jacks and tribal tattoos, and cool nicknames shouldn't be a factor on who the most outstanding player in the country is.

It's probably just one of those things where you just have to watch the games. Johnny's heisman bid is easy to understand without actually watching the games because of his insane stats and highlight reels. Teo just gets a pass thrown right to him and then shows four tackles in the box score with highlights of him yelling and doing jumping jacks. Not really fair. That's just an outsiders opinion though and a biased one. Take it for what it's worth.

 

[Bogtrotter07]

Everybody should post this in their local Newspapers personals - the closer to the sports section, the better.

To all Stupid People:

C'mon, haven't you been in charge long enough? From designing cars with gas caps on both sides so none of us ever know what side of the pump to pull up on, to a college football conference where the unofficial motto is: "If you aren't cheating you aren't trying hard enough!" Haven't you held the lime light long enough? Weren't the boy bands and Hammer pants enough? Cannot you stifle your overwhelming and brainless urges long enough to vote for a Heisman candidate not because every other stupid sumbitch is doing it, and vote for a candidate who actually embodies the ideals of the Heisman Trophy Trust?

We have faith in you stupid people, things are changing all over this great land. Gone is the vaunted Auburn Tigers, NC to winless in the SEC in two years, just because they couldn't find another scumbag idiot and his brainless son to accept $200,000, to win the award. No, stupid people Notre Dame is back, with guys smart enough to get a degree that will pay them that, PER YEAR OR MORE FOR THE REST OF THEIR LIFE WHETHER THEY PLAY FOOTBALL OR NOT!

Hey, you could even vote for this kid from Notre Dame who is pretty much the best football player in the country, who has raised his team to a level no other team in America has reached, all without cheating.

It is up to you stupid people. Continue to be a worthless, tasteless jackass, or make a difference. Support the outstanding college football player whose performance best exhibits the pursuit of excellence with integrity.

It won't hurt, and you can always go back to being stupid tomorrow.

Thanks.

The elect our Keiki kāne committee.

 

[JughedJones]

I come in peace.

Teo just gets a pass thrown right to him and then shows four tackles in the box score with highlights of him yelling and doing jumping jacks.

hmmm....

If you don't know why an outstanding student-athlete who is the leader of the best defense in college football as well as arguably the best kid in the game should get the Heisman, well... not sure what to tell you.

"Tribal tattoos and jumping jacks" ain't it homeboy.

 

[Ultimate Penn St. Hater]

Hey guys I am a big A&M fan and therefore a huge JFF supporter for heisman and I just came over here to try to gain some insight from your perspective on why you believe that Manti should win. I come in peace and admittedly I haven't gotten to watch as many ND games as I would have liked..

After reading some of the comments here on this thread and seeing the video ND put out it seems that a major theme is that his presence transcends stats and has led this team back to prominence. As an outside observer though I am not even sure Teo is the best defensive player on your team. Not by a large margin at least. And that's nothing against him but just goes to show how good your over defense is.

Statistically it has been a good season for him but its nothing that doesn't happen every year. Heck JF has more TD's than Teo has tackles over the past two games. So it must be something more to the story but I find it a little deflating to hear that what I am missing is an inspirational story and good grades. Not that those aren't awesome and it makes me respect the heck out of him but I find it a little patronizing to give him an award because of something other than merit.

You can bring up Johnny's arrest and compare who is more holy but it would be really sad to have this turn into an American Idol situation where no one cares who sings the best but rather who's story can they market. (The same way Johnny has received more fame because of his nickname). I am just saying emotional leader is great but inspiration can't be measured. Sideline jumping jacks and tribal tattoos, and cool nicknames shouldn't be a factor on who the most outstanding player in the country is.

It's probably just one of those things where you just have to watch the games. Johnny's heisman bid is easy to understand without actually watching the games because of his insane stats and highlight reels. Teo just gets a pass thrown right to him and then shows four tackles in the box score with highlights of him yelling and doing jumping jacks. Not really fair. That's just an outsiders opinion though and a biased one. Take it for what it's worth.

He does way more than that pal. He changes how teams run their offenses. I'd love to see him smack Johnny Football around on the field, but he has too many losses.

 

[ulukinatme]

Don't have a lot of time for a long response, but the Heisman Trophy's position has always been to name the most outstanding player in college football. I guess that's certainly open to debate as what qualifies the most outstanding. "The outstanding college football player whose performance best exhibits the pursuit of excellence with integrity." While Manti's stats may not seem far and away the best in college football, he's the unquestioned leader of a defense that is #1 in college football today on the only undefeated, unsanctioned football team. He embodies that outstanding football player, he has the leadership, he's humble, and provides plenty of the integrity qualification.

This is not a slight to Johnny Football at all, he certainly is more than qualified to be in New York and win the award as well, this is just why Manti is being considered. This team would not be #1 right now if Manti wasn't a part of it. He brings that much to the team. He's a unifying force that has helped turn this program around along with the coaches. He's the kind of leader that Notre Dame has lacked for some time.

 

[JughedJones]

Then again, if you don't realize how idiotic 'Johnny Football' sounds, there really isn't much hope explaining anything to you.

 

[PraetorianND]

Hey guys I am a big A&M fan and therefore a huge JFF supporter for heisman and I just came over here to try to gain some insight from your perspective on why you believe that Manti should win. I come in peace and admittedly I haven't gotten to watch as many ND games as I would have liked..

After reading some of the comments here on this thread and seeing the video ND put out it seems that a major theme is that his presence transcends stats and has led this team back to prominence. As an outside observer though I am not even sure Teo is the best defensive player on your team. Not by a large margin at least. And that's nothing against him but just goes to show how good your over defense is.

Statistically it has been a good season for him but its nothing that doesn't happen every year. Heck JF has more TD's than Teo has tackles over the past two games. So it must be something more to the story but I find it a little deflating to hear that what I am missing is an inspirational story and good grades. Not that those aren't awesome and it makes me respect the heck out of him but I find it a little patronizing to give him an award because of something other than merit.

You can bring up Johnny's arrest and compare who is more holy but it would be really sad to have this turn into an American Idol situation where no one cares who sings the best but rather who's story can they market. (The same way Johnny has received more fame because of his nickname). I am just saying emotional leader is great but inspiration can't be measured. Sideline jumping jacks and tribal tattoos, and cool nicknames shouldn't be a factor on who the most outstanding player in the country is.

It's probably just one of those things where you just have to watch the games. Johnny's heisman bid is easy to understand without actually watching the games because of his insane stats and highlight reels. Teo just gets a pass thrown right to him and then shows four tackles in the box score with highlights of him yelling and doing jumping jacks. Not really fair. That's just an outsiders opinion though and a biased one. Take it for what it's worth.

7 picks as an inside linebacker? That's not luck bro.

 

[Riddickulous]

Te'o would have a lot more tackles if ND's defense was on the field more.

 

[95NDAlumNM]

Desmond Howard of all people actually mentioned Johnny's run in with the law today during CFB Live when they were talking heisman. Hopefully word will get out although it might be too late.

 

[PraetorianND]

Heck JF has more TD's than Teo has tackles over the past two games.

This is an asinine comparison.

 

[Ag11]

Sorry that sounds bad. I wasn't trying to minimize what Teo means I was just trying to say its hard to capture what he truly means in a box score or in a highlight video. If you just look at a box score and see over the past two games that he has 10 tackles and an int and his highlight videos are him running around and yelling.